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cdru
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reply to bogey780
Re: An advantage of FTTH is to end copper maintenance

said by bogey780 See Profile :

What's the reason for CLEC's getting copper access? Because incumbents had a defacto monopoly when the copper was placed. So the argument is that as long as they run that copper they need to share. Fiber is totally new and divorced from copper plant.
While I agree with you for the most part, you also have to remember that the ILECs became huge and powerful because of the government bailouts and subsidies. It gives them an unfair advantage as the goverment helped them run their business for years, essentially building up their pocket books so that they eventually could deploy their own network with their own money. The CLECs haven't had that advantage of the constant government help over the years.
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said by nasadude See Profile :

Dennis, you silly boy! all of those reasons to keep copper are reasons the customer wants to keep it. Verizon doesn't care about the customer, it only cares about it's shareholders.
Bingo, we have a winner... That about sums about this problem nicely.
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reply to nasadude
What's the reason for CLEC's getting copper access? Because incumbents had a defacto monopoly when the copper was placed. So the argument is that as long as they run that copper they need to share. Fiber is totally new and divorced from copper plant.

It's like having to pay alimony to your ex-wife even after she remarries.

Some cost? Heh... And the Titanic was just some boat.

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reply to Dennis
Dennis, you silly boy! all of those reasons to keep copper are reasons the customer wants to keep it. Verizon doesn't care about the customer, it only cares about it's shareholders.

there are two reasons verizon doesn't want to keep copper around in FIOS areas:

1. I concede that there is probably some cost associated with maintaining the copper, so it's a cost cutting measure,

2. the more insidious reason to remove the copper is to essentially strand the customer with no option but the incumbent telco, or, in cases where there is at least a duopoly, the incumbent cableco; the FCC has already decreed that fiber doesn't have to be shared - remove the copper and you remove the likelihood of any other landline provider except for the cableco to provide broadband
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