battleop
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Re: Out with the old and in with the new.
I have a very hard time believing that any PUC in any state would allow Verizon to charge a few thousand dollars for a drop from the pole to the dmarc. |
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said by Harddrive  :i [sic] couldnt [sic] have said it better. goodbye [sic] copper, let the light shine through via fiber. At least as long as you can afford to pay for it. With no monopoly regulation, Verizon can price you right out of the market if it wants to. If it's beyond your budget, tough luck. |
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said by battleop :What happens if a new home or business is built and they order service from a CLec? I don't think they refuse service in that case. I do believe that the CLec is charged a small Install fee for the drop. Small? Maybe small for a large corporation, but prohibitively expensive for the typical homeowner. The CLEC can't afford to absorb the cost of a new dry loop installation, that might be several thousand dollars if Verizon so chooses, not for a single customer. They might be able to wire the whole subdivision more economically, but would require a minimum number of initial sign-ups for a minimum commitment that's long enough to amortize the capital outlay. In areas where state and local governments still grant Verizon eminent domain privileges as if it's still the old AT&T, the CLEC might have trouble finding a place where the air and/or ground rights aren't owned by someone else. And Verizon can make it too costly for the CLEC to terminate the copper bundle with ease.
Is there anything that says you can't order POTS from verizon and then switch to a Clec? Common sense. CLECs are totally dependent on a pre-existing copper plant owned by the ILEC in order to offer service. No copper plant, no service.
Wouldn't this be the same case if the copper drop is removed? Yes, it would. No copper plant, no service. That's why Verizon is tearing up its copper plant. |
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said by Michieru2 :Who is the original reporter's name? It would be good to keep the bastard under the bullshit list. By DEBORAH YAO
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Who is the original reporter's name?
It would be good to keep the bastard under the bullshit list.
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said by johndoe303 :
The subject says it all. 
i couldnt have said it better. goodbye copper, let the light shine through via fiber.
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What happens if a new home or business is built and they order service from a CLec? I don't think they refuse service in that case. I do believe that the CLec is charged a small Install fee for the drop.
Is there anything that says you can't order POTS from verizon and then switch to a Clec?
Wouldn't this be the same case if the copper drop is removed? |
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Crap Journalism
To learn about the laying sacks of crap our news services are one only has to look at the coverage of the war in Iraq. When is the last time you have heard about the roads, schools, hospitals, outpatient clinics, etc, that our troops in Iraq have built, or how the Iraqi people really think about al Ameriki tribe, the American Tribe. You instantly hear about so called civilian deaths at the hands of American soldiers. The press gloats over the deaths of American service men and women, but we never hear the fact terrorists in Iraq are being killed by the score, and you never hear about the utter evil of al Qaeda such as this;
"At first, he said, they [Al Qaeda] would only target Shia, but over time the new al Qaeda directed attacks against Sunni, and then anyone who thought differently. The official reported that on a couple of occasions in Baqubah, al Qaeda invited to lunch families they wanted to convert to their way of thinking. In each instance, the family had a boy, he said, who was about 11 years old. As LT David Wallach interpreted the man’s words, I saw Wallach go blank and silent. He stopped interpreting for a moment. I asked Wallach, “What did he say?” Wallach said that at these luncheons, the families were sat down to eat. And then their boy was brought in with his mouth stuffed. The boy had been baked. Al Qaeda served the boy to his family."
( »www.michaelyon-online.com/wp/baq···2007.htm )
If our press will slant the news from Iraq to make our Soldiers look like the NAZI SS, and Al Qaeda as freedom fighters what chance does any thing else have to be reported truthfully.
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Wow, a reporter with a story already slanted the way they want, and then using selected quotes to make their point. Will wonders never cease.
That is std operating procedure for the press. I suspect we rarely get unvarnished facts and mostly get the slant the reporter/editor is looking for.
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