  ShootToThril Tell The Truth Premium join:2004-06-07 Sherman Oaks, CA clubs:
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2 edits | For Crying out loud!
If they deployed the super advanced FIOS network, couldn't they just let people pay for a 3mbps connection over that fios connection instead of thinking "Oh... we need copper for that". I mean this new technology from space can't be provisioned to lower speeds???... And for that matter, would phone service not work over FIOS, correct me if I'm wrong but isn't POTS used for phone service. |
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  dvd536 as Mr. Pink as they come Premium join:2001-04-27 Phoenix, AZ
| said by ShootToThril :If they deployed the super advanced FIOS network, couldn't they just let people pay for a 3mbps connection over that fios connection instead of thinking "Oh... we need copper for that". I mean this new technology from space can't be provisioned to lower speeds???... And for that matter, would phone service not work over FIOS. Can't do POTS over fibre, thats what this is all about. POTS which can also do lineshare DSL. -- You can never be too rich, too thin or have too much Bandwidth |
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 pcnetworx1
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1 edit | said by dvd536 : Can't do POTS over fibre. Can't do LINE POWERED POTS over fibre. Not "can't do POTS." |
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 myokitis
join:2004-06-19 Alexandria, VA | reply to dvd536 Of Course VZ Does POTS over Fiber
Get your facts straight before you post. VZ WANTS to sell their triple-play (voice/data/video) over fiber. And the voice is POTS. Yes, POTS. |
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 Time4aNAP Premium join:2007-04-09 Des Plaines, IL
| reply to ShootToThril Re: For Crying out loud!
said by ShootToThril :If they deployed the super advanced FIOS network, couldn't they just let people pay for a 3mbps connection over that fios connection instead of thinking "Oh... we need copper for that". I mean this new technology from space can't be provisioned to lower speeds??? It's possible, but there are no regulations to compel Verizon to do this. In the interest of killing off all competition, Verizon will not do it willingly, so you're out of luck.
The original AT&T copper plant was built under monopoly regulation, with government assistance, and often using taxpayer money. That is what makes the copper plant so valuable today. Without it, the competition doesn't have a way in.
Your government(s) screwed you when they improperly gave Verizon the go-ahead to build a new copper plant (which is not subject to regulation) over the old rights-of-way granted to the old AT&T under eminent domain. This essentially gave Verizon an unfair advantage over all competition in continuing to grant them monopoly access to those rights-of-way to operate a new monopoly, but without any new laws to govern the new monopoly. And it's your fault, because you're responsible for electing the government(s).
Next time, you might want to lift a finger... |
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 Time4aNAP Premium join:2007-04-09 Des Plaines, IL
| reply to pcnetworx1 said by pcnetworx1 :Can't do LINE POWERED POTS over fibre. Not "can't do POTS." Six of one, a half-dozen of the other. There's nothing "plain" or "old" about the equipment necessary to make any telephone work over fiber. And POTS does in fact include all of the necessary electrical power and signaling required for a POT to work with it. If an old western electric phone can't use it, it's not POTS. |
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 Time4aNAP Premium join:2007-04-09 Des Plaines, IL | reply to myokitis Re: Of Course VZ Does POTS over Fiber
Sorry, but your personal private definition of POTS is not the widely accepted definition. Playing with semantics doesn't alter the facts. |
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  PGHammer
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| reply to dvd536 Re: For Crying out loud!
Can't do POTS over fiber? Two words: get real. VZ does POTS over FiOS every day (the typical voice service they deploy over fiber is *not* BroadWing (their branded VoIP service) but actually a fiber-based POTS - copper inside the premises, but fiber starting at the NIM/NID). The current trend in *greenfield* developments is for FiOS preinstallation, where you *start* with fiber-based POTS (and the NIM/NID went in with the rest of the household pre-wiring). |
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