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SquareSlinky
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I believe that Verizon has to pay for connection on the poles, which is probably why they want it off the poles.


fAcEtIOUs
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said by SquareSlinky:

I believe that Verizon has to pay for connection on the poles, which is probably why they want it off the poles.
In Verizon's case, many of the poles are theirs and those that aren't belong to private electric utilities. I don't believe they will pay any less to the electric utility because they only have fiber hung from the pole instead of fiber and copper.
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You are correct there is a pole rental fee, typically split between local Telco and Power utility. Here in NH they divvy it up by town. In one town Verizon has primary responsibility for poles in next Public Service of NH. There is some sort of complex charge back scheme to insure each pay their share.

Other users such as CATV pay a per pole rental fee. If a new service is added often there is a make-ready charge to either move existing cables or install taller poles to make room for new entrant. This is one of the business hurdles faced by anyone trying to enter the first-mile access biz.

I do not believe cost is affected by number of cables. In most areas Verizon and for the matter Cablecos over-lash fiber to existing copper plant. Fiber is small and light weight. Over-lashing saves space on pole and eliminates need for messenger strength member in fiber cable.

Local towns control most of the rights-of-way and charge rental fee to utilities to plant poles.

/Tom


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Re: Pole Access

said by fAcEtIOUs:

In Verizon's case, many of the poles are theirs and those that aren't belong to private electric utilities. I don't believe they will pay any less to the electric utility because they only have fiber hung from the pole instead of fiber and copper.
I wouldn't be so sure about that last part if I were you. When renting pole access, you're not just negotiating a flat rate for a right-of-way. There are real-world considerations that any smart landlord will take into account. Weight, and hence the wear and tear on the poles is one such consideration.

Fiber alone is obviously lighter than fiber and copper. It's also lighter compared to copper, at any given capacity. So any smart tenant is going to take this into account when re-negotiating a lease.

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