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« Verizon in RI refused to keep copper in place  
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battleop

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reply to johndoe303
Re: Out with the old and in with the new.

What happens if a new home or business is built and they order service from a CLec? I don't think they refuse service in that case. I do believe that the CLec is charged a small Install fee for the drop.

Is there anything that says you can't order POTS from verizon and then switch to a Clec?

Wouldn't this be the same case if the copper drop is removed?

Time4aNAP
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said by battleop See Profile :

What happens if a new home or business is built and they order service from a CLec? I don't think they refuse service in that case. I do believe that the CLec is charged a small Install fee for the drop.
Small? Maybe small for a large corporation, but prohibitively expensive for the typical homeowner. The CLEC can't afford to absorb the cost of a new dry loop installation, that might be several thousand dollars if Verizon so chooses, not for a single customer. They might be able to wire the whole subdivision more economically, but would require a minimum number of initial sign-ups for a minimum commitment that's long enough to amortize the capital outlay. In areas where state and local governments still grant Verizon eminent domain privileges as if it's still the old AT&T, the CLEC might have trouble finding a place where the air and/or ground rights aren't owned by someone else. And Verizon can make it too costly for the CLEC to terminate the copper bundle with ease.

Is there anything that says you can't order POTS from verizon and then switch to a Clec?
Common sense. CLECs are totally dependent on a pre-existing copper plant owned by the ILEC in order to offer service. No copper plant, no service.

Wouldn't this be the same case if the copper drop is removed?
Yes, it would. No copper plant, no service. That's why Verizon is tearing up its copper plant.


battleop

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I have a very hard time believing that any PUC in any state would allow Verizon to charge a few thousand dollars for a drop from the pole to the dmarc.
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