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ColorBASIC
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join:2006-12-29
Corona, CA

Not horrible

For me 3G isn't a deal breaker because 3G availability is so limited. I don't even have 3G access here in Huntington Beach in SoCal and you would think Orange County would have complete coverage.

But its great to be in the middle of nowhere and still have EDGE coverage.
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en102
Canadian, eh?

join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA

Were they all iPhones that this test ?

Huntington Beach should get 3G soon, as some of the San Fernando Valley now has 3G, Santa Clarita / Canyon Country now has 3G.

Word has it that So-Cal (L.A. anyways) should be going through a launch in August.
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justin
Australian
join:1999-05-28
New York, NY
kudos:7

Yes they are all iPhones and all on EDGE. There was one recording at 5xx kbit perhaps on edge, but it was a windows CE device!


CMoore2004
Premium
join:2003-02-06
Jonesville, MI

reply to ColorBASIC
So, it's OK that it's not even capable of high speeds because if it were, it'd still be hindered by a pathetic provider?

By the way, Sprint has EVDO in both Corona and Huntington Beach.
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60127178
K.U. Sweet 16
Premium
join:2001-02-15
Wichita, KS
kudos:1

reply to ColorBASIC
Yes even better to be in the middle of nowhere and have 2 options for EVDO, and just plain ol gprs for gsm.
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RadioDoc
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join:2000-05-11

reply to ColorBASIC
Let me tell you...going from 3G in Chicago to EDGE in Denver today was painful. Very painful. Once you have 3G (I clocked over 600 kbps last night) it's immediately addictive to have that available on your laptop tethered to a cell phone.
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Cogdis

join:2007-03-26
Floral Park, NY

reply to justin
Maybe that was me. I used the test on my Sprint 6700 the other day. Worked perfectly.


cwire

join:2007-06-07
Bedford, KY

reply to CMoore2004
pathetic provider eh??
once you get away from Louisville, ky, or an interstate around hear you might as well chuck the sprint phone out the window, but cingular picks up everywhere. maybe that's the reason sprint/nextel is tanking.



tc1uscg

join:2005-03-09
Saint Clair Shores, MI

reply to ColorBASIC

said by ColorBASIC:

For me 3G isn't a deal breaker because 3G availability is so limited. I don't even have 3G access here in Huntington Beach in SoCal and you would think Orange County would have complete coverage.

But its great to be in the middle of nowhere and still have EDGE coverage.
That's how they should work. Drop down to the next kind of network when the higher one isn't there.. EVDO rev a, then EVDO, then Vision. At least that's how my eqp works. What is nice if your provider has roaming agreements with someone and data is part of the package..


ColorBASIC
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join:2006-12-29
Corona, CA

reply to CMoore2004

said by CMoore2004:

So, it's OK that it's not even capable of high speeds because if it were, it'd still be hindered by a pathetic provider?

By the way, Sprint has EVDO in both Corona and Huntington Beach.
Yeah but Sprint sucks ass and like the Hudson Valley, their claims of coverage are very exaggerated. Sprint coverage here is a joke and they lie about coverage just to make sales.
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ColorBASIC
8-bit Fun
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join:2006-12-29
Corona, CA

reply to RadioDoc

said by RadioDoc:

Let me tell you...going from 3G in Chicago to EDGE in Denver today was painful. Very painful. Once you have 3G (I clocked over 600 kbps last night) it's immediately addictive to have that available on your laptop tethered to a cell phone.
Until a provider like Verizon cancels the subscriber for actually USING the 3G service after having sold them on it being "unlimited".

Between lame TOS/AUPs and getting no coverage, 3G is very overrated IMO.
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RadioDoc
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join:2000-05-11

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Irrelevant to this discussion. Sorry. For high speed access away from WiFi the iPhone is shit.
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Time4aNAP
Premium
join:2007-04-09
Des Plaines, IL

reply to cwire

said by cwire:

once [sic] you get away from Louisville, ky [sic], or an interstate around hear [sic] you might as well chuck the sprint [sic] phone out the window, but cingular [sic] picks up everywhere.
One corner of rural America can hardly speak for the system as a whole. I also doubt that you've been "everywhere" testing AT&T's service availability. In both cases, you're exaggerating in favor of a prejudice, not stating fact. The unsubstantiated rumor about Sprint/Nextel "tanking", which isn't relevant to the topic, indicates a degree of desperation. You wouldn't by any chance be a stock speculator making a lame attempt to manipulate the market, would you?

The fact is that EV-DO (used by Sprint) is superior to EDGE (used in places by the parts of AT&T's network that are GSM), both in theory and in practice.


tc1uscg

join:2005-03-09
Saint Clair Shores, MI

1 edit

reply to cwire

said by cwire:

pathetic provider eh??
once you get away from Louisville, ky, or an interstate around hear you might as well chuck the sprint phone out the window, but cingular picks up everywhere. maybe that's the reason sprint/nextel is tanking.
Wow.. you must be having some bad luck. I recently did a road trip from Detroit to Glasgow (yes, traveled thru Louisville, 71 all the way to I-65, didn't take the bypass). My EVDO card worked great every time I used it and it was between major cities (Detroit-Toledo, Toledo-Dayton, Dayton-Cin, Cin-Louisville, Louisville-Glasgow) and my phone never lost service, the wife and 2 kids phones never lost service, at least during the times we used them and I swear, the kids must have talked half the trip (car cords) . Wife had hers on the dash and the kids were yakking away outside of L-ville, E-town and Cave City (not to mention Cin city OH.. Used the aircard about 20 miles out from Louisville to check on traffic and weather for the rest of the trip. So to me mate.. your just talking smack. Maybe you got the service confused with Verizon?


tc1uscg

join:2005-03-09
Saint Clair Shores, MI

reply to ColorBASIC

said by ColorBASIC:

said by CMoore2004:

So, it's OK that it's not even capable of high speeds because if it were, it'd still be hindered by a pathetic provider?

By the way, Sprint has EVDO in both Corona and Huntington Beach.
Yeah but Sprint sucks ass and like the Hudson Valley, their claims of coverage are very exaggerated. Sprint coverage here is a joke and they lie about coverage just to make sales.
Guy.. you need to chill the F out. If Sprint or anyone was/is LYING about coverage, Arnold (or some other I'm going to rule your life california group) would be on them faster then you can mumble "I'll be back".. and making them stop "false advertising". We all know your a iPhone/Apple fanboy so no need to violate that old saying.. "Sometimes it's better to sit there and look like a fool then open your mouth and prove you are one". I'm glad AT&T and iPhone and EDGE works for you. Just like some don't mind driving in the slow lane. Others like a little excitement and drive faster. It's ok. I'm not picking on California, 2 of my 3 kids were born there . But here's a link to help you with your problems.

»www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNT1Y2sLLKU

bignate

join:2005-12-05
Austin, TX

reply to Time4aNAP
of course EVDO is better than EDGE...they are not Competitors.

EVDO's 3G Competitor from ATT is their HSDPA network which is comparable.

EDGE is ATT's secondary data connection for when you cant get 3G(for 3G phones at least).

when i am connected sure i prefer to be on the 3G network getting 700k but it is nice to know that if i cant get that i can still always use the backup...EDGE...i have never been completely out of data service with ATT.



kyler13
Is your fiber grounded?

join:2006-12-12
Arnold, MD

Yes, but EVDO is more widespread the HSDPA, so the CDMA providers are a step ahead of the GSM guys. I think EDGE is more on par with 1xRTT, though EDGE is clearly faster.


cwire

join:2007-06-07
Bedford, KY

reply to tc1uscg
you stayed on the interstate the whole time huh?? that's what i said, once you get away from an interstate or city, you have no coverage.



ColorBASIC
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join:2006-12-29
Corona, CA

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reply to tc1uscg

said by tc1uscg:

Sometimes it's better to sit there and look like a fool then open your mouth and prove you are one".
Pot, meet kettle. Uh, whether I am on my Macs or on my PCs...Sprint still sucks and lies about their coverage area. I was a Sprint subscriber for 2 years and I've been with Nextel (before they were with Sprint), T-Mobile and now I'm with both Verizon and AT&T and Sprint was BY FAR the worst provider. Their customer service sucked, their nationwide coverage sucked...everything about them sucked.

RTFP guy...3G is not a deal breaker FOR ME. I have a 3G/EDGE phone (Treo 750) and find I'm hardly ever in a 3G service area. I'm not in my office, in my home or when I travel anywhere but the largest cities. So for me, 3G is an afterthought because I never get to use it. My Verizon EVDO service (Treo 700W) is nearly as bad in terms of coverage when I'm traveling (although I do get EVDO service in Orange County). EDGE on the other hand while not the fastest thing on the planet, it gets the job done virtually everywhere I need it done.

Do yourself a favor and actually READ the posts before replying to them.

And yes, California does suck.
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ColorBASIC
8-bit Fun
Premium
join:2006-12-29
Corona, CA

1 edit

reply to RadioDoc

said by RadioDoc:

Irrelevant to this discussion. Sorry. For high speed access away from WiFi the iPhone is shit.
IMO, for high speed access away from anywhere but the largest cities, 3G is shit. I find little point in having 3G in my Treo750 when I can never get service.
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