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Re: Not horrible So, it's OK that it's not even capable of high speeds because if it were, it'd still be hindered by a pathetic provider?
By the way, Sprint has EVDO in both Corona and Huntington Beach.
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cwire
join:2007-06-07
Bedford, KY | pathetic provider eh??
once you get away from Louisville, ky, or an interstate around hear you might as well chuck the sprint phone out the window, but cingular picks up everywhere. maybe that's the reason sprint/nextel is tanking. |
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 ColorBASIC8-bit FunPremium
join:2006-12-29
Corona, CA | reply to CMoore2004
said by CMoore2004:So, it's OK that it's not even capable of high speeds because if it were, it'd still be hindered by a pathetic provider? By the way, Sprint has EVDO in both Corona and Huntington Beach. Yeah but Sprint sucks ass and like the Hudson Valley, their claims of coverage are very exaggerated. Sprint coverage here is a joke and they lie about coverage just to make sales.
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Time4aNAPPremium
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Des Plaines, IL | reply to cwire
said by cwire:once [sic] you get away from Louisville, ky [sic], or an interstate around hear [sic] you might as well chuck the sprint [sic] phone out the window, but cingular [sic] picks up everywhere. One corner of rural America can hardly speak for the system as a whole. I also doubt that you've been "everywhere" testing AT&T's service availability. In both cases, you're exaggerating in favor of a prejudice, not stating fact. The unsubstantiated rumor about Sprint/Nextel "tanking", which isn't relevant to the topic, indicates a degree of desperation. You wouldn't by any chance be a stock speculator making a lame attempt to manipulate the market, would you?
The fact is that EV-DO (used by Sprint) is superior to EDGE (used in places by the parts of AT&T's network that are GSM), both in theory and in practice. |
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join:2005-03-09
Saint Clair Shores, MI
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said by cwire:pathetic provider eh?? once you get away from Louisville, ky, or an interstate around hear you might as well chuck the sprint phone out the window, but cingular picks up everywhere. maybe that's the reason sprint/nextel is tanking. Wow.. you must be having some bad luck. I recently did a road trip from Detroit to Glasgow (yes, traveled thru Louisville, 71 all the way to I-65, didn't take the bypass). My EVDO card worked great every time I used it and it was between major cities (Detroit-Toledo, Toledo-Dayton, Dayton-Cin, Cin-Louisville, Louisville-Glasgow) and my phone never lost service, the wife and 2 kids phones never lost service, at least during the times we used them and I swear, the kids must have talked half the trip (car cords)  . Wife had hers on the dash and the kids were yakking away outside of L-ville, E-town and Cave City (not to mention Cin city OH.. Used the aircard about 20 miles out from Louisville to check on traffic and weather for the rest of the trip. So to me mate.. your just talking smack. Maybe you got the service confused with Verizon?  |
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tc1uscg
join:2005-03-09
Saint Clair Shores, MI | reply to ColorBASIC
said by ColorBASIC:said by CMoore2004:So, it's OK that it's not even capable of high speeds because if it were, it'd still be hindered by a pathetic provider? By the way, Sprint has EVDO in both Corona and Huntington Beach. Yeah but Sprint sucks ass and like the Hudson Valley, their claims of coverage are very exaggerated. Sprint coverage here is a joke and they lie about coverage just to make sales. Guy.. you need to chill the F out. If Sprint or anyone was/is LYING about coverage, Arnold (or some other I'm going to rule your life california group) would be on them faster then you can mumble "I'll be back".. and making them stop "false advertising". We all know your a iPhone/Apple fanboy so no need to violate that old saying.. "Sometimes it's better to sit there and look like a fool then open your mouth and prove you are one". I'm glad AT&T and iPhone and EDGE works for you. Just like some don't mind driving in the slow lane. Others like a little excitement and drive faster. It's ok. I'm not picking on California, 2 of my 3 kids were born there  . But here's a link to help you with your problems.
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of course EVDO is better than EDGE...they are not Competitors.
EVDO's 3G Competitor from ATT is their HSDPA network which is comparable.
EDGE is ATT's secondary data connection for when you cant get 3G(for 3G phones at least).
when i am connected sure i prefer to be on the 3G network getting 700k but it is nice to know that if i cant get that i can still always use the backup...EDGE...i have never been completely out of data service with ATT. |
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Arnold, MD | Yes, but EVDO is more widespread the HSDPA, so the CDMA providers are a step ahead of the GSM guys. I think EDGE is more on par with 1xRTT, though EDGE is clearly faster. |
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cwire
join:2007-06-07
Bedford, KY | reply to tc1uscg
you stayed on the interstate the whole time huh?? that's what i said, once you get away from an interstate or city, you have no coverage. |
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ColorBASIC8-bit FunPremium
join:2006-12-29
Corona, CA
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said by tc1uscg:Sometimes it's better to sit there and look like a fool then open your mouth and prove you are one". Pot, meet kettle. Uh, whether I am on my Macs or on my PCs...Sprint still sucks and lies about their coverage area. I was a Sprint subscriber for 2 years and I've been with Nextel (before they were with Sprint), T-Mobile and now I'm with both Verizon and AT&T and Sprint was BY FAR the worst provider. Their customer service sucked, their nationwide coverage sucked...everything about them sucked.
RTFP guy...3G is not a deal breaker FOR ME. I have a 3G/EDGE phone (Treo 750) and find I'm hardly ever in a 3G service area. I'm not in my office, in my home or when I travel anywhere but the largest cities. So for me, 3G is an afterthought because I never get to use it. My Verizon EVDO service (Treo 700W) is nearly as bad in terms of coverage when I'm traveling (although I do get EVDO service in Orange County). EDGE on the other hand while not the fastest thing on the planet, it gets the job done virtually everywhere I need it done.
Do yourself a favor and actually READ the posts before replying to them.
And yes, California does suck.
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Limbo | reply to tc1uscg
Next time you go down that way and you're going through Cave City, take the road back to Mammoth Cave National Park. I assume it's because it's a National Park and they don't allow commercial equipment installation but there is ZERO ATT/Cingular coverage in the park area. That's one of the few places I've stumbled on where even EDGE doesn't function.
Wondering if anyone with another cell service has had any luck in that area?
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When is the last time you've used Sprint? They've added CDMA to thousand of Nextel sites in the last year. Most Sprint users on evdoforums.com say that Sprint's maps are actually too conservative, that EVDO is in many places not yet on the maps.
Sprint and Verizon cover about 210m pops with EVDO and Sprint also roams on Alltel EVDO. I don't think HSDPA is yet half that. |
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cwire
join:2007-06-07
Bedford, KY | reply to fireflier
i believe bluegrass cellular covers that area, may want to check into it. |
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cwire
join:2007-06-07
Bedford, KY | reply to Time4aNAP
yes, you're right nappy, i made up all the stories about sprint/nextels customers leaving in droves...i believe you must be the one who is trying to push up stock prices buddy. |
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ColorBASIC8-bit FunPremium
join:2006-12-29
Corona, CA | reply to ignatiuskc
said by ignatiuskc:When is the last time you've used Sprint? It's been 18 months, but my friends who still have Sprint complain of the same "no coverage" problems I had.
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tc1uscg
join:2005-03-09
Saint Clair Shores, MI | reply to cwire
said by cwire:you stayed on the interstate the whole time huh?? that's what i said, once you get away from an interstate or city, you have no coverage. Considering the fact that the antena array if true omni directional will give you a few miles of coverage off the hwy, I don't think deadzones is a issue. Bet if you crawl down in a manhole in the middle of the city, you might find it hard to get a edge signal too. |
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tc1uscg
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Saint Clair Shores, MI | reply to fireflier
said by fireflier:Next time you go down that way and you're going through Cave City, take the road back to Mammoth Cave National Park. I assume it's because it's a National Park and they don't allow commercial equipment installation but there is ZERO ATT/Cingular coverage in the park area. That's one of the few places I've stumbled on where even EDGE doesn't function. Wondering if anyone with another cell service has had any luck in that area? I did visit MC while we were there. We walked down to the entrance (been in it many times before) just so the daughter could take some pictures. No tours that day. They had lost power. Sprint just entered a roaming agreement with bluegrass (which cwire is correct) covers that area. To my insider info, it's data roaming too. However, I did roam (digital) a few times while at the park but never no service on the phone. ALLTEL and BG to my knowledge are the big carriers in that area. Verizon has roaming agreements too in that area (looking at their map, eastern ky is mostly roaming except Louisville). US Cellular looks to have the whole area covered as roaming also. As you well know, there are lots of mom and pop cell companies with a few towers and money to spend for covering the back woods. Remember, phones do have a big part to play in how well your reception is. My SCP7500 works way better then my sons A900 samsung but in my experience, Sanyo phones seem to do better in reception then other high end phones. |
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Time4aNAPPremium
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Des Plaines, IL | reply to bignate
said by bignate:of course EVDO is better than EDGE...they are not Competitors. That might be true, but they're obviously competitors. Using a word as a proper noun to signify some unstated meaning does nothing to alter the underlying facts, And the fact is that I can choose between several competing services.
when i am connected sure i prefer to be on the 3G network getting 700k but it is nice to know that if i cant get that i can still always use the backup...EDGE...i have never been completely out of data service with ATT [sic]. So what?
I prefer to be on Sprint's EV-DO whenever I can (at twice your data rate), and can fall back to 1xRTT or even dial-up. What's your point? Surely you weren't trying to make the false claim that AT&T's offering is somehow superior!
The fact of the matter is that no wireless service works everywhere. The Faraday cages in some of my data centers don't discriminate between carriers. And no amount of marketing hype will convince them to pass one vendor's signal. So if you "have never been completely out of data service with ATT", that's only because you're not very mobile. That's not an accomplishment.
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Des Plaines, IL | reply to cwire
said by cwire:i [sic] made up all the stories about sprint/nextels [sic] customers leaving in droves... That's kind of obvious, wouldn't you say? It's not like your claim is being reported in the news or anything.
i [sic] believe you must be the one who is trying to push up stock prices buddy [sic]. No, you don't. You just can't find any fault in what I said.
But I'm not the one spreading malicious rumors, referring to companies by their ticker symbols or using trader jargon. You are.
Try earning an honest living some time.
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I had Cingular a while, and around here Centennial is completely EDGE capable, but ATT gets only GPRS data in certain places.
I only switched to Sprint after giving Cingular a very fair chance.
Sprint's customer service DOES suck. 100% true. I tried changing the caller ID name on one of my lines, and they changed the account owner name. Apparently, I have to visit a store to change it back. However, my phones always work and I'm satisfied with that. My data card gets better speeds than Cingular pretty much everywhere I travel. Even the 1xRTT beat the hell out of the EDGE speeds in my area.
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