Time4aNAP
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join:2007-04-09
Des Plaines, IL
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Re: Not horrible
said by cwire  :once [sic] you get away from Louisville, ky [sic], or an interstate around hear [sic] you might as well chuck the sprint [sic] phone out the window, but cingular [sic] picks up everywhere. One corner of rural America can hardly speak for the system as a whole. I also doubt that you've been "everywhere" testing AT&T's service availability. In both cases, you're exaggerating in favor of a prejudice, not stating fact. The unsubstantiated rumor about Sprint/Nextel "tanking", which isn't relevant to the topic, indicates a degree of desperation. You wouldn't by any chance be a stock speculator making a lame attempt to manipulate the market, would you?
The fact is that EV-DO (used by Sprint) is superior to EDGE (used in places by the parts of AT&T's network that are GSM), both in theory and in practice. |
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bignate
join:2005-12-05
Austin, TX
| of course EVDO is better than EDGE...they are not Competitors.
EVDO's 3G Competitor from ATT is their HSDPA network which is comparable.
EDGE is ATT's secondary data connection for when you cant get 3G(for 3G phones at least).
when i am connected sure i prefer to be on the 3G network getting 700k but it is nice to know that if i cant get that i can still always use the backup...EDGE...i have never been completely out of data service with ATT. |
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kyler13
Is your fiber grounded?
join:2006-12-12
Arnold, MD | Yes, but EVDO is more widespread the HSDPA, so the CDMA providers are a step ahead of the GSM guys. I think EDGE is more on par with 1xRTT, though EDGE is clearly faster. |
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cwire
join:2007-06-07
Bedford, KY | reply to Time4aNAP
yes, you're right nappy, i made up all the stories about sprint/nextels customers leaving in droves...i believe you must be the one who is trying to push up stock prices buddy. |
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Time4aNAP
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join:2007-04-09
Des Plaines, IL
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said by bignate :of course EVDO is better than EDGE...they are not Competitors. That might be true, but they're obviously competitors. Using a word as a proper noun to signify some unstated meaning does nothing to alter the underlying facts, And the fact is that I can choose between several competing services.
when i am connected sure i prefer to be on the 3G network getting 700k but it is nice to know that if i cant get that i can still always use the backup...EDGE...i have never been completely out of data service with ATT [sic]. So what?
I prefer to be on Sprint's EV-DO whenever I can (at twice your data rate), and can fall back to 1xRTT or even dial-up. What's your point? Surely you weren't trying to make the false claim that AT&T's offering is somehow superior! 
The fact of the matter is that no wireless service works everywhere. The Faraday cages in some of my data centers don't discriminate between carriers. And no amount of marketing hype will convince them to pass one vendor's signal. So if you "have never been completely out of data service with ATT", that's only because you're not very mobile. That's not an accomplishment.
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Time4aNAP
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join:2007-04-09
Des Plaines, IL
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said by cwire :i [sic] made up all the stories about sprint/nextels [sic] customers leaving in droves... That's kind of obvious, wouldn't you say? It's not like your claim is being reported in the news or anything.
i [sic] believe you must be the one who is trying to push up stock prices buddy [sic]. No, you don't. You just can't find any fault in what I said.
But I'm not the one spreading malicious rumors, referring to companies by their ticker symbols or using trader jargon. You are.
Try earning an honest living some time.
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CMoore2004
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join:2003-02-06
Jonesville, MI
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I had Cingular a while, and around here Centennial is completely EDGE capable, but ATT gets only GPRS data in certain places.
I only switched to Sprint after giving Cingular a very fair chance.
Sprint's customer service DOES suck. 100% true. I tried changing the caller ID name on one of my lines, and they changed the account owner name. Apparently, I have to visit a store to change it back. However, my phones always work and I'm satisfied with that. My data card gets better speeds than Cingular pretty much everywhere I travel. Even the 1xRTT beat the hell out of the EDGE speeds in my area.
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kamm
join:2001-02-14
Brooklyn, NY
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kamm
join:2001-02-14
Brooklyn, NY
 ·T-Mobile US
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said by kyler13 :Yes, but EVDO is more widespread the HSDPA, so the CDMA providers are a step ahead of the GSM guys. I think EDGE is more on par with 1xRTT, though EDGE is clearly faster. :D If I wouldn't know you're talking about US_only, I would call this post h-i-l-a-r-i-o-u-s. 
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kamm
join:2001-02-14
Brooklyn, NY
·T-Mobile US
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said by Time4aNAP :said by cwire :once [sic] you get away from Louisville, ky [sic], or an interstate around hear [sic] you might as well chuck the sprint [sic] phone out the window, but cingular [sic] picks up everywhere. One corner of rural America can hardly speak for the system as a whole. I also doubt that you've been "everywhere" testing AT&T's service availability. In both cases, you're exaggerating in favor of a prejudice, not stating fact. The unsubstantiated rumor about Sprint/Nextel "tanking", which isn't relevant to the topic, indicates a degree of desperation. You wouldn't by any chance be a stock speculator making a lame attempt to manipulate the market, would you? The fact is that EV-DO (used by Sprint) is superior to EDGE (used in places by the parts of AT&T's network that are GSM), both in theory and in practice. And they both suck big time compared to HSDPA, used in most bigger cities and rest of the world (ie most part of the 400-500M EU).
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Ulmo
join:2005-09-22
San Jose, CA
 ·Comcast
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said by kamm :said by kyler13 :Yes, but EVDO is more widespread the HSDPA, so the CDMA providers are a step ahead of the GSM guys. I think EDGE is more on par with 1xRTT, though EDGE is clearly faster. :D If I wouldn't know you're talking about US_only, I would call this post h-i-l-a-r-i-o-u-s. What do distant aliens have to do with this conversation? Sheesh! It's about Deathstar, not some foreign CEO's consideration someplace. We don't travel thousands of miles every day. We pretty much stay within our own thousand or so mile radius, probably within a few hundred miles from home on an average week. That's not Mexico, nor Canada for most of us, and nowhere near wherever you're talking about. |
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TheSolomon
join:2001-11-13
Columbus, OH
| reply to Time4aNAP
You may want to reconsider your usage of the term sic.
Sic (from the Latin "sicut," which means 'just as that') is used to indicate direct quoting; your usage is fine in that regard. But it is used when a phrase may contain archaic or uncommon usage, or when the quote contains grammatical or other errors that have not been corrected in the quoted passage.
An appropriate usage would be as follows: "It would be best if you learnt [sic] how to properly use the term 'sic.'" This is valid, because "learnt" is an uncommon past-tense of the word "learned."
Sic is not an HTML tag, so you do not need to lead and follow with it. And using sic just to indicate a quoted passage is totally inappropriate, especially since (aside from the casual language), there isn't any part of his speech that would make us question whether you made an error in quotation. Also, your quotations are already tab-offset with a different background color. Not only is your usage of sic inappropriate, it's also redundant.
It's fine that you know Latin, and even better that you have heard of (or seen) sic in quoted texts. But throwing it around incorrectly makes you look foolish, and even communicates an air of "I'm better than you."
said by Time4aNAP :said by cwire :i [sic] made up all the stories about sprint/nextels [sic] customers leaving in droves... That's kind of obvious, wouldn't you say? It's not like your claim is being reported in the news or anything. i [sic] believe you must be the one who is trying to push up stock prices buddy [sic]. No, you don't. You just can't find any fault in what I said. But I'm not the one spreading malicious rumors, referring to companies by their ticker symbols or using trader jargon. You are. Try earning an honest living some time. |
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TheSolomon
join:2001-11-13
Columbus, OH
| Whoops, I made a mistake in my previous post. What a perfect time for the proper use of sic!
"This is valid, because 'learnt' is an uncommon past-tense of the word 'learned' [sic]."
That sentence is wrong and somewhat redundant. I should have said: "This is valid, because 'learnt' is an uncommon past-tense of the word 'learn.'"
Grammar is fun! |
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CMoore2004
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join:2003-02-06
Jonesville, MI
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How does it suck? Does it suck in the way that EVDO has much better coverage in the US? Or is it that the upload speeds are better? I've tried HSDPA while going down the road in a few bigger cities and wasn't impressed at all. I can drive all the way from my house to Flint and not lose my EVDO signal.
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