Re: Go to the Website! in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r18664210 en Tue, 08 Dec 2009 18:20:29 EDT Tue, 08 Dec 2009 18:20:29 EDT Re: Go to the Website! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18679426 Doctor Olds :
said by Rob See Profile :

Yes, AOL has millions upon millions of customers. How many of those account for dialup vs BYOA? How many of those already "cancelled" their account but Enron AOL already marked them as "current customers"?
Many of those went right to another dial-up provider from AOL dial-up as they did not want a $40.00 per month Broadband bill. They instead went to NetZero, PeoplePC and all the other smaller players in the $10.00 to $12.00 dollars per month dial-up service price range.

AT&T's DSL users eclipse AOL's dial-up subscribers [May 02 2007]
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AT&T says it has 12.9 million subscribers, more than AOL's 12 million users, which Time Warner announced today.


That is 12 Million dial-up users just at AOL from their original 25 Million.

The other 12 Million did not go to broadband, they went to cheaper dial-up. Now with $10.00 DSL, that is a large market to penetrate.

Enjoy.
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said by Doctor Olds See Profile :

said by Rob See Profile :

If you're a new customer.....

How then would you just "go online" and get it? See the irony here? You still need an Internet connection. Not everyone has one at home and not everyone has dialup either.
Yes they do. AOL still has how many dial-up customers that they failed to get upgraded to Broadband. Did I hear Millions and Millions? :D

You are being just a bit unrealistic in regards to the number of dial users still connected the old fashioned way.
Yes, AOL has millions upon millions of customers. How many of those account for dialup vs BYOA? How many of those already "cancelled" their account but Enron AOL already marked them as "current customers"?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18679289 Mon, 16 Jul 2007 07:16:03 EDT Re: Go to the Website! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18678818 Doctor Olds :
said by Rob See Profile :

If you're a new customer.....

How then would you just "go online" and get it? See the irony here? You still need an Internet connection. Not everyone has one at home and not everyone has dialup either.
Yes they do. AOL still has how many dial-up customers that they failed to get upgraded to Broadband. Did I hear Millions and Millions? :D

You are being just a bit unrealistic in regards to the number of dial users still connected the old fashioned way.
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said by raydog1 See Profile :

I don't understand why people are being so hostile towards this guy. He explains every step he had to take in order to get the service and even gives a rundown for anyone else trying to get it. No good turn goes unpunished eh?

BTW, he explains why he had do some of this over the phone in the blog. You have to read both blog entries on this to get the complete picture.
When I read the actual daily byte this morning, I had to laugh at him all together. He's one of those people that like to push the extreme of the rule.

Here are a few points that make him out to be a little wacko:

1) 4:53 - Hold music playing "Hey jude"

2) 4:55 (two minutes later) stresses that he's still on an interoffice transfer!! : gasp : - This is an attempt to make this into an extreme issue.

3) He needs a code. Big deal! It's called the customer code. All telephone customers have them. He's right, he needs the code, but that's not specific to the $10 DSL offer as he'd need it to order ANY service. This is just a flaw/bump in their system all together. The CC is actually there for the customer protection yet he trivializes it.

4) "Low Blow" - "They make you pay for the router"?? So? When is a router supposed to be free? They usually offer them as "promotions"... oh geez... when did promotions become the normal? To penny pincher extremest types, I guess they are. The only time they started giving any equipment away for free was either with contract customers, or those on higher dollar plans. It's called a "reward"... not an entitlement. He's exploiting this as something bad.

5) He complains about the first available installation date as being "July 16th" - "A little long me thinks".. So when did 5 days become a bit long? It's cable that gives you faster HSI installs.. DSL has always been AT LEAST a week *no matter what speed* you choose. In fact, for the longest time, DSL was always about a 3 week turn around time but it has steadily improved over the years for the better. 5 days is hardly anything to gripe about. Getting call waiting added takes about 3 days, and there is much more into getting DSL ready on a line. So, two extra days is hardly "long".. again, it's that he'e trying to exploit these issues to the "$10 DSL" product.

It's people like him that play to the lowest form in order to gain attention.

NOTHING he stated in there was any kind of punishment for going after the $10 DSL service.

He also lies to people and tells them to answer "Yes" when they ask you if you are poor. So , I guess he also stands for committing fraud as well.

It's not that he's trying to explain his experience, that can't be disputed. It also doesn't mean he's not an idiot, which this reader thinks he is. And, keep in mind, I'm not a fan of the phone company - AT&T especially - but he's really pushing the limits here to make a point. He calls it a hassle and tries to tie it to the $10 product.. but, nothing he stated in there was $10 specific as to their requirements. Seems pretty standard to me for any DSL product.

If I followed his instructions, I'd take longer to get service ordered AND I would wind up most likely loosing my service for fraud. I think the people that aren't friendly towards his efforts are those that can identify someone simply seeking to ruin the image of someone in the name of attention for himself.
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said by NewMariner See Profile :

Whats your agenda CableBoy?
Here we go lets get defensive now.

BIG BOY!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18666794 Fri, 13 Jul 2007 17:38:26 EDT Re: Go to the Website! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18666751 SkyBlue :
said by Rob See Profile :

Well if you had DSL in the past, then you can't get the $10/dollar deal anyways.

I have no agenda and I'm not a "CableBoy". Geez I love the members on this forum, you disagree with a telco or a cable co, so you must be a fan of the other industry. How about I'm a fan of neither? :uhh:
I agree with you people seem to be real hard fans of ADSL an cut you up when you don't agree or say something that threatens the quality. Act like big babies.

Sadly most of the people on here work or are supposed to be considered adults. But by the comments just made to you I would suggest they are not acting there age.

Oh well cable boy or telco boy will get over it. hah ;)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18666751 Fri, 13 Jul 2007 17:31:01 EDT Re: Go to the Website! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18666685 odreian615 : I understand that some cant get online to get this but isnt
thats why we are here for to help them ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18666685 Fri, 13 Jul 2007 17:19:09 EDT Re: Go to the Website! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18664393 raydog1 : I don't understand why people are being so hostile towards this guy. He explains every step he had to take in order to get the service and even gives a rundown for anyone else trying to get it. No good turn goes unpunished eh?

BTW, he explains why he had do some of this over the phone in the blog. You have to read both blog entries on this to get the complete picture.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18664393 Fri, 13 Jul 2007 10:52:06 EDT Re: Go to the Website! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18664382 Bell System : Actually one of basically three criteria were that you can't have had dsl in the past 12 months. I believe the three criteria were...

1. Have local service w/ at&t in an ilec region.
2. Be in range of DSL service.
3. Can't have had (at&t) dsl in past 12 months.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18664382 Fri, 13 Jul 2007 10:50:02 EDT Re: Go to the Website! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18664222 Rob :
said by NewMariner See Profile :

said by Rob See Profile :

said by DslTrblShoot See Profile :

All you have to do is click on the banner that says dsl at an even lower price. And then follow the steps...if your a new customer then you can get the 10 dollar dsl..its really not that difficult..
If you're a new customer.....

How then would you just "go online" and get it? See the irony here? You still need an Internet connection. Not everyone has one at home and not everyone has dialup either.
Actually very few people DON'T have some form of internet access. Whether it be dial up, satellite, isdn, t1,cable. If you dont have at least one of these services by now, then more then likely dsl isnt going to be available at that location anyway. So this is really a moot point. If you really wanted it would be easy to go to a website. The library gives free access. Im sure your neighbors have access. If you have a laptop, simply use their open network to get access and order yours.

Whats your agenda CableBoy?
Well if you had DSL in the past, then you can't get the $10/dollar deal anyways.

I have no agenda and I'm not a "CableBoy". Geez I love the members on this forum, you disagree with a telco or a cable co, so you must be a fan of the other industry. How about I'm a fan of neither? :uhh:
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said by Rob See Profile :

said by DslTrblShoot See Profile :

All you have to do is click on the banner that says dsl at an even lower price. And then follow the steps...if your a new customer then you can get the 10 dollar dsl..its really not that difficult..
If you're a new customer.....

How then would you just "go online" and get it? See the irony here? You still need an Internet connection. Not everyone has one at home and not everyone has dialup either.
Actually very few people DON'T have some form of internet access. Whether it be dial up, satellite, isdn, t1,cable. If you dont have at least one of these services by now, then more then likely dsl isnt going to be available at that location anyway. So this is really a moot point. If you really wanted it would be easy to go to a website. The library gives free access. Im sure your neighbors have access. If you have a laptop, simply use their open network to get access and order yours.

Whats your agenda CableBoy?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18664210 Fri, 13 Jul 2007 10:13:02 EDT Re: Go to the Website! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18664136 ape : any Office Depot or Staples have free wifi]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18664136 Fri, 13 Jul 2007 09:59:24 EDT Re: Go to the Website! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18663804 pnh102 :
said by Rob See Profile :

How then would you just "go online" and get it? See the irony here? You still need an Internet connection. Not everyone has one at home and not everyone has dialup either.
Go to a library, do it from work, go to a neighbor who has Internet.
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said by Rob See Profile :

How then would you just "go online" and get it? See the irony here? You still need an Internet connection. Not everyone has one at home and not everyone has dialup either.
Neighbor, friends house, Library, WiFi hot spot...

said by Rob See Profile :

Just an attempt by AT&T to make it difficult for consumers to take advantage of the $10 dollar DSL
Naw, they wouldn't do that would they ?..

;)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18663801 Fri, 13 Jul 2007 08:51:17 EDT Re: Go to the Website! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18663782 Rob :
said by DslTrblShoot See Profile :

All you have to do is click on the banner that says dsl at an even lower price. And then follow the steps...if your a new customer then you can get the 10 dollar dsl..its really not that difficult..
If you're a new customer.....

How then would you just "go online" and get it? See the irony here? You still need an Internet connection. Not everyone has one at home and not everyone has dialup either.

Just an attempt by AT&T to make it difficult for consumers to take advantage of the $10 dollar DSL that was agreed upon in order for the FCC to approve the merger. They figure the customer with no Internet will call in.. then be offered some other 'lower' plan after they are told that the $10/mo. one doesn't exist. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18663782 Fri, 13 Jul 2007 08:45:50 EDT Go to the Website! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18663773 DslTrblShoot : This is an online offer only...you have to go to the website to order it. Why the guy in the article called on the phone to get an online offer only is beyond me.

All you have to do is click on the banner that says dsl at an even lower price. And then follow the steps...if your a new customer then you can get the 10 dollar dsl..its really not that difficult..]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18663773 Fri, 13 Jul 2007 08:43:38 EDT