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mbkowns
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16mb / 2mb Status Update

So what is the time frame for this service in the socal area?

Heard that texas has trials now and its in some FiOS markets so what about the full scale roll out?

thanks
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Re: 16mb / 2mb Status Update

said by mbkowns See Profile :

So what is the time frame for this service in the socal area?

Heard that texas has trials now and its in some FiOS markets so what about the full scale roll out?

thanks
never i hope .. are you actually getting what you are paying for there in riverside?
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Re: 16mb / 2mb Status Update

Yes I always get my speed I never don't get the rate I pay for I hear all these stories guess I am in a good area...
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BF69

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said by mbkowns See Profile :

So what is the time frame for this service in the socal area?

Heard that texas has trials now and its in some FiOS markets so what about the full scale roll out?

thanks
16 Meg will only be offred to those that actually live in areas where there is competition, like FiOS. The best at&t/bellsouth offers in my area is 6 Mbps and I can get 10 Mbps from Chater so I don't see Charter being in any hurry to offer 16 Mbps.

Also Chater started offering 3 Mbps in my area in mid 2003 and didn't start offering anything higher until early 2007 so going by that I don't expect to see any higher speeds offered in my area until mid 2010 at the earliest.
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Re: 16mb / 2mb Status Update

DSL2 is in my area so maybe they will offer it...
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daver007

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I'm sure all higher speed rollouts will occur in similar areas whenever possible (e.g. Charter will try to compete with FIOS or DSL2 or whatever is there if it's higher speed and will target those markets first for upgrades when possible).

Just a common sense guess. Competition helps a lot in regard to hardware and what a service provider offers.
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Anyone here have this connection installed already?
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Re: 16mb / 2mb Status Update

True Dave --

But,.. I wonder if 16/2 is a bit ahead of it's time/need at the moment.

I know FiOS is way ahead of its time. Don't get me wrong I'm CERTAINLY not opposed to higher speeds. Higher speeds will create more demand for more Media bandwidth, and so on.

But, I'm hinting at your average customer. Those who make up the bulk of the HSI market.

Is someone who is using 10Meg really thinking to themselves,.. Man this 1.25Meg/s download isn't cutting it for my internet use -- I need something faster?

I'm being totally serious.. I know people like us are like hell yes,.. But, the majority of the HSI market share isn't comprised of speed freaks I'm afraid.

Though phasing out the lower speeds will inevitably create the demand eventually.

Thoughts?
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kommander

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Re: 16mb / 2mb Status Update

i know that if the 16/2 speeds are being deployed that the next two modulation schemes are being worked out now. The faster the speed is pushed the more perfect the cable plant needs to be. He is what i know about getting stuff perfect, it is hard. the modulation scheme needed to keep the speed makes any ingress, egress a greater killer to internet access. These speeds will continue to increase, market by market. System by system. Every time that capacity is increased in the computer world, there is no shortage of new things that use the latest and greatest, no matter what it is, internet speed included.

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* Multiple users per home,
* Start-up anti-virus updates,
* Start-up Auto OS updates,
* TiVO's attached to the internet
* You tube
* Emerging apps like packet8's standalone videophone
* Enhanced "second life" type games
* VPN home-corporate loading

-- all add to swamp even a 10mbs connection at peak usage. More and more of us are experiencing more and more of this loading. Bandwidth should never be "just enough" -- it should be always be more than we need by some large factor, like at least 2x. Right now, 10 mbs will just barely cut-it for a upper middle class family of 4.

I do get 17/2mbs from charter. I never notice any bandwidth limitations -- like I did at peak usage with 10mbs. 30/2mbs would allow for even more apps that I know we'll be growing into. I'm about to move into a FiOS area, so I guess I'll find out (still, Charter got it right with my 17mbs connection )
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mbkowns
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Re: 16mb / 2mb Status Update

What areas are testing? Seemed like the 10mb testing was very short least the rumor side of it. I wonder when they might release it here in Riverside California.
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Re: 16mb / 2mb Status Update

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»/gmaps/fios
'Pretty much wherever Charter and FiOS overlap (go figure)

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Re: 16mb / 2mb Status Update

said by ronpin See Profile :

»/gmaps/fios
'Pretty much wherever Charter and FiOS overlap (go figure)
Funny how that works when you have competition.

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Re: 16mb / 2mb Status Update

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Riverside is surrounded by FiOS. I assume your "blessed" with AT&T and not Verizon in Riverside (no FiOS competition)

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neofate
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Re: 16mb / 2mb Status Update

said by BIGDOG_3 See Profile :

No love for the plains...
Or the southeast -- You'd Think the major cities.. IE: Atlanta and Birmingham would have some competition. But no such luck.

One day, one day =)
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Re: 16mb / 2mb Status Update

Yea, one day. I won't be here when that "one day" comes.

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Re: 16mb / 2mb Status Update

Verizon has installed FIOS here in Long Beach--I would settle for Charter just getting competitive with DSL pricing :-/

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said by ronpin See Profile :

* Multiple users per home,
* Start-up anti-virus updates,
* Start-up Auto OS updates,
* TiVO's attached to the internet
* You tube
* Emerging apps like packet8's standalone videophone
* Enhanced "second life" type games
* VPN home-corporate loading

-- all add to swamp even a 10mbs connection at peak usage. More and more of us are experiencing more and more of this loading. Bandwidth should never be "just enough" -- it should be always be more than we need by some large factor, like at least 2x. Right now, 10 mbs will just barely cut-it for a upper middle class family of 4.

I do get 17/2mbs from charter. I never notice any bandwidth limitations -- like I did at peak usage with 10mbs. 30/2mbs would allow for even more apps that I know we'll be growing into. I'm about to move into a FiOS area, so I guess I'll find out (still, Charter got it right with my 17mbs connection )
Ok,.. I knew there existed people who actually utilized in a 'fair' manner Meg/s connections on a regular basis, in a residential pattern. But, you have to admit.. As things currently stand.. If you were to monitor bandwidth of all Broadband HSI subscribers across the US.. I would 'bet' the majority of the user base doesn't use anywhere near this amount.. (even if that consisted of 5-10+Mbps density pool.

I know it is easily possible to use it,.. but your common household isn't burning a Meg a second 'often'.

People who constantly run P2P software,.. will use any amount of bandwidth given to them.. from 3Mbps to 300Mbps. Harddrive space becomes the largest issue at that point.. but on a 'grand scale'.

Put it this way -- If the majority did use their connections at full tilt, we'd have network saturation in primetime at a much higher rate,.. in fact it would exist in every market and headend.

No Headend is setup to support every subscriber running at 100% bandwidth at one time.

Not sure what the 'average' ratio or capacity is -- But I would imagine they are equipped on the 'better side' to support about an 80-85% full load of ever subscriber running at full tilt,.. and in some regions as low as 25-35% (Where only a fraction of users causes saturation).

I'm not dogging Charter in any area.. Its the principle of shared bandwidth. An OC-96 only holds so much.
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efong

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Re: 16mb / 2mb Status Update

Competition is always good. Hoping to see a drop in prices and a bump in speed as U-verse starts to cover more of the SoCal areas. Its coming to my neighborhood and they are trialing 25/2 in FIOS Texas markets. I say bring it on.
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Re: 16mb / 2mb Status Update

BTW DSL2 is in my area so maybe that is why I got 10mb faster maybe that will help me get the 16mb \ 2mb quick
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Re: 16mb / 2mb Status Update

I've heard Monticello/Buffalo area has/was/is testing 16/2, I know we had multiple mid night outages because of it as well a month ago.
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I personally would love to see more upload capabilities. Even if not everyone uses what's available to them, the option should still be there for those like myself who would want to take advantage of it. I have large data files, and I'd like to be able to back them up to my dedicated server so that they're off site from me, so in the event I have drive failure or something like that, I haven't lost my data. Not to mention I can access it no matter where I may be, such as at a friends house. I can recall a few years ago when optimum online offered 10/1 speeds, while the rest of North America was around 3/256 or at best 5/768. We all dreamed of having Optonline 10/1 speeds. Now, I don't believe there's a U.S. cable company that doesn't have a 10/1 option. Now though, Optonline offers the option of 30/5 speeds for it's users, using the same cable modems the rest of us use. Yet everywhere else I've seen, including business offerings over cable, the highest upstream speed providers offer is 2Mbps. So I have to wonder, why is Optimum online the only cable internet service willing to offer it's users a 5Mbps upstream option? What are they doing that nobody else in the entire country is willing to try? By no means am I knocking 2mbps upload, it's certainly better than 256k, but if users could get a 5mbit upload tier, that's more than double 2Mbit/sec, and things could get done even quicker in my book. Even in FIOS areas where folks can get 30/5 FIOS, cable still only offers 2Mbps upstream. I can only guess that 2mbps is the limit for a single upstream channel and optimum online is doing 2 channel bonding to achieve 5m upload? In any case, I believe we've got plenty of downstream, now let's improve the upload for those that would want it!

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Re: 16mb / 2mb Status Update

I'd like to see either a conglamorate government network created or FCC regulated latency standards before more upload becomes the next damn hot topic. I work from home A LOT and 1mbps up is pretty fine. Latency is important for VPN, Exchange Servers, etc. to act more 'happy'. People are jumping on the throughput train way too much. I want the USA to be known for killer low latency, not the most throughput. The country is too big to deploy what some other countries the size of Andorra have deployed (and brag about until even after the Brokeback Mountain boys come back home... ew... I kinda freaked myself out there... anyway). SURE 2mbps or 5mbps would be great but better latency standards and people at AT&T or Qwest or whatever douche network performing planned or accidental maintenance every other week causing problems for people that can't pinpoint the problem is the real culprit... not your local throughput baby.

Oh and the govt thing? They can see your crap anyway if they want so why not make it an FCC/govt thing where it's a bunch of inter-connected rings so the ping is never more than 100ms for any user point to point to any location in the USA. THAT, my friend, would make everything scream in a happy fashion... not another 1mpbs upload...

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Re: 16mb / 2mb Status Update

Dave,

I usually don't disagree with you, but I'm not so sure about the Government involvement.

For the main reason,.. Government doesn't always = Better.

Also, I know it is cliche, but the government has SO much control already, do we really want them in on this as well?

I'm all for Latency standards, and accountability to maintain X standards. That are governed by a foreboding body, not a 'franchise' that may or may not act, and in its actions may or may not be effective. (Not to mention that doesn't have much to do with the backbone infrastructure).

For speeds -- I see it more of a ratio. Ten to One is pushing it a bit. Optimum is running Six to One.

So, take Optimum, use their ratio, push them to a 10Meg package. What is the net result?

10/1.5 (Technically 1.66) Sounds fair, and is easily doable with the infrastructure we have now. Charter could alter its 10meg plan to 10/1.5 -- which is not THAT much different.

Think about the 3meg plan -- Its 12/1 -- the 5meg plan is back to the 10/1 ratio.

If you take a look at DSL options, their ratios are all over the board with no seeming rhyme or reason. Bottom line, yes Upload speed can be boosted, for sure.. I just don't know how much demand warrants what 'ratio'.

I'd personally like to see symmetry -- But, not at the cost of drastically reduced download caps.

IE: I wouldn't want to lose my 10/1 to 5/5. (Some would though). I'd sacrifice a certain percentage of my download bandwidth for upstream though. Maybe 8/2, and so on.

It would be nice to have a dynamic pool.. Where you could have X amount of bandwidth.. say,.. Ok for 69$ we give you 20Mbps -- You can run 19/1 if you want, or 10/10 -- It doesn't matter. (Self configurable) -- But that's idealism, and not practical with the way things really work.

Lastly,.. Dave... You know the US is known for the show off of the 'I've got the Biggest' type of personality. So by nature we are going to shoot for the fastest speeds and not tend to the details.. (Latency, bah.)
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Re: 16mb / 2mb Status Update

Agree that 8/2 would be nicest in today's market. I had a friend who for a short time was at 8mbps down and only 256kbps up! They changed it to 512up but still that was WEIRD. I bet at least 1/2 of that upload was being used if not more when full download was happening. Too minimal. We'll see what the magic of the internet brings.
joker5656

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Re: 16mb / 2mb Status Update

I agree if we could get more upload it would be great. i just hope it comes soon. i also wouldn't mind more download but more upload would be really good since i play games on my 360, and i like to host
mbkowns
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Seems like we get updated here quick anyway. when the beta talks of 10mb were at full ramp i was able to get it in riverside.
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I hope this service comes soon to my area (West Covina, CA)

Before I switched, VZ said Fios will be available very soon (Which means I think, next year)...the DL speed doesn't matter to me, but the UL speed does. Other countries are so ahead of us when it comes to UL speed.

Anyways, if Fios comes here sooner then I think, then I'm switching unless Charter retains me for a good deal and hopefully brings the 16/2 service here.

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Re: 16mb / 2mb Status Update

said by vlv723 See Profile :

but the UL speed does. Other countries are so ahead of us when it comes to UL speed.
Interesting..

What other countries that have networks the size and complexity of the United States 'are so ahead' of us?

I'm curious, because for a price you can have as much bandwidth as you want.. Here

In alot of other countries you pay by the amount of data sent, and caps are the norm. Here it is generally unlimited.

I'm not doubting you really,.. as I'm uninformed.. What other countries of 'comparable size and complexity' have much better/faster/cheaper networks?
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Re: 16mb / 2mb Status Update

Called again today Texas is just getting rolled out on the 16mb / 2mb but riverside haha last time when 10mb was comming out I remember texas getting upgraded then shortly after we did out here in riverside.

Hopefully soon
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Re: 16mb / 2mb Status Update

quote:
Texas is just getting rolled out on the 16mb / 2mb
Is 16/2 really being rolled out anywhere yet?

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Re: 16mb / 2mb Status Update

said by Karl Bode See Profile :

quote:
Texas is just getting rolled out on the 16mb / 2mb
Is 16/2 really being rolled out anywhere yet?
Only where there is FIOS competition.

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Re: 16mb / 2mb Status Update

Can anyone cite specific markets?

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Re: 16mb / 2mb Status Update

I see a brief reference that's it's coming in this July report:

»www.cedmagazine.com/article.aspx?id=149890

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Charter Communications CTO Marwan Fawaz noted that 60 to 70 percent of Charter’s IP traffic is peer to peer, and that there’s an expectation of 30 to 50 percent traffic growth every year for the next 10 years. “You have to invest in your network. It’s not sustainable to keep the speeds we have today.”

Those speeds are frequently 6 to 8 Mbps for cable operators (in contrast to France Telecom - that’s for data and voice only). Service providers are simply going to have to provide more bandwidth. Charter’s Fawaz and Kable Deutschland CTO Lorenz Glatz said their organizations would be increasing their top broadband speeds to 16 Mbps.
But I didn't know some people currently have it outside of testing?
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said by neofate See Profile :

said by vlv723 See Profile :

but the UL speed does. Other countries are so ahead of us when it comes to UL speed.
Interesting..

What other countries that have networks the size and complexity of the United States 'are so ahead' of us?

I'm curious, because for a price you can have as much bandwidth as you want.. Here

In alot of other countries you pay by the amount of data sent, and caps are the norm. Here it is generally unlimited.

I'm not doubting you really,.. as I'm uninformed.. What other countries of 'comparable size and complexity' have much better/faster/cheaper networks?
Well I do check on Speedtest that some ISPs offer higher upload speeds in Europe then here...however, I seen that we got the best average upload in the US than anyone else, so I may be wrong...

Also, Verizon is lagging on their end as well as Charter. It's funny how the Fios location are available about 2 cities away each way (east & west) from where I'm at.

Out of curiosity, my brother just called me saying that Charter is in the back putting in a new box. Unsure what that is but does anyone know? Hopefully that's the 16/2 upgrade in the area.

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said by neofate See Profile :

What other countries that have networks the size and complexity of the United States 'are so ahead' of us?...for a price you can have as much bandwidth as you want...a lot of other countries you pay by the amount of data sent...
It's geographically specific from what I can tell but I know Japan, Sweden, and Hong Kong kick our butts even if you only consider metro areas. I remember a gigabit connection at least a year or two ago that was available in HK for under $400/month SYMMETRIC (can you say apartment WAP setup with friends in three languages?). You can get a whole T1 for that here, whee! (or max 2mbps public upload) I believe standard download in cities for major French ISPs is over 20mbps already and I'm guessing the upload is at least 2 and more likley 5mbps. Pretty sure we're far behind in both cost, options, and latency... the only thing that's true is that the US is much larger geographically... but still I don't understand why major metro areas can't keep up with Japan or any other area at least on some small scale. Internet options in the US are OK but I guarantee you that in France, UK, Sweden, or Japan you could get way more bandwidth for cheaper. Again, not considering some small town in Montana... I'm comparing say NYC or the Bay Area to London, Paris, Tokyo, Stockholm, etc. We pale in comparison. Sure it's partially due to supply/demand but a true jump from the vanilla 10/2 connection will cost you way more than $100. In Japan I believe you can get 100Mb LAN for $50 or $60 if I recall. Leeeetle bit different.
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Re: 16mb / 2mb Status Update

Well i called charter today and talked to a sales person about said subject line. the guy seemed like he knew a little but gave me confidence. i asked him if he knew when it was coming to my area (Upstate SC) and he said its still in testing right now, and that it should be rolling out in a few months at most on a national level, he said its not for sure but he said when it does come out that my area should be one of the first. Now how true this is we will see. i know when they were testing the 10/1 it took a few months, so hopefully real soon

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Re: 16mb / 2mb Status Update

That's good news. My biggest hope is that the 16/2 will come out and the 10/1 will go down slightly in price. I don't want to pay more than $60 for 1 meg upload no matter what the download speed is. I should be able to get into the 95th or higher percentile of internet connectivity for $60 IMO. Sure the 16/2 would be 99th or higher but I don't want to pay the $75+ it will likely be for that.
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Re: 16mb / 2mb Status Update

said by dav0r See Profile :

That's good news. My biggest hope is that the 16/2 will come out and the 10/1 will go down slightly in price. I don't want to pay more than $60 for 1 meg upload no matter what the download speed is. I should be able to get into the 95th or higher percentile of internet connectivity for $60 IMO. Sure the 16/2 would be 99th or higher but I don't want to pay the $75+ it will likely be for that.
well I'm with you on that 100%, maybe someone who is testing in the Texas market or a Tech can see what the price is? i understand this is a test, and the price could go up or down but at least it would give us a ball park figure
djrogi

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Re: 16mb / 2mb Status Update

Hopefully pushing 16/2 in more markets will upgrade the backbone as well, making speeds across the board more stable.

That on top of the possible price drop of the 10/1 makes for a good plan in my book.
joker5656

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Re: 16mb / 2mb Status Update

any news if they widen the so called testing or are going to start implementing it in other areas?

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Hi again. Some of you may have seen me before. Each time I have broken the news of an upcoming product or service release (mainly HSI related). Each time I have had doubters on this forum, and each time I have been right.

Here is the newest info, straight from the depths of Charter corporate HQ.

16/2 service is deploying "soon in all NON FIOS MARKETS that can support it." EDIT: Usually "soon" means "a few months" in my experience.

Unfortunately, that is all the information I have been given at this time, but rest assured I will post more as soon as I know it.

Disclaimer: I do not work for Charter, I am not a customer of Charter, I do not even live in a Charter serviced area. I love DSL, and would not get Charter if I could. I am just a guy that likes to break news on DSLR.

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Re: 16mb / 2mb Status Update

I just received a bit of verification on my previous post. It was referred to as "something that is coming down the pipe" as in probably more like 6 months rather than short term. And to look for it first in MO and WI.
joker5656

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Re: 16mb / 2mb Status Update

well it good to know its coming to non FIOS areas, don't mind the waiting as long as i know for sure its coming.

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Wisconsin? Arrgh!

Charter = drug dealer. The speed is like heroin. It's bad enough I hide the detail part of the cable bill from my roommate thanks to the new 10/1. Now Charter is going to entice me with 16/2? Oh god, is there a HSI rehab center I can check into?


Jarablue said: 30/5 package.

I think I just wet myself.
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said by bsc See Profile :

I just received a bit of verification on my previous post. It was referred to as "something that is coming down the pipe" as in probably more like 6 months rather than short term. And to look for it first in MO and WI.
Hrm...Interesting. I am privy to the testing that is going on now.

I am super anxious to find out the results of the test. I will say that the test is not happening in WI or MO, although those are both areas that would be toward the front of the list as far as receiving the new speeds. Stl Mo is the corporate office, so naturally stuff has a pretty good chance of getting launched there quickly.

Another note, 16/2 is a realistic number in terms of what is possible with the Docsis 2 standard....Docsis 3 will make this stuff somewhat irrelevant. Look for Comcast to have it first.

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16/2? Cmon Charter..don't upgrade to this crappy speed. Do something inventive and whip out a 30/5 package. Not only will people be saying holy shit, it would improve your image ten fold. Like I said, stop collecting the garbage on the road and pave the damn thing.

16/2 is ok but man, Charter can make a statement why not do it now?

Oh and Worcester, MA will see this upgrade in about...2 years time. Charter needs to work on upgrades faster.

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WHAAA!!! I moved away from my 16/2mbs service!!! 8mbs/512k is all I can get now -- from RoadRunner -- and it cost $80!!! (I never thought I'd miss Charter soooo much
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WyckedKnight

join:2004-07-12
Van Nuys, CA
Ok if they are going to charge the same price they are currently charging for the 10/1 for the 16/2 then shouldn't they be lowering the price for the 10/1 plan?
wispagod

join:2001-06-28
House Springs, MO

Re: 16mb / 2mb Status Update

I only pay 59.99 for 10/1 Without TV

WyckedKnight

join:2004-07-12
Van Nuys, CA

Re: 16mb / 2mb Status Update

WHATTTTTTT, I'm paying the full 69.99 with T.V. and i have all the channels except the HD line up.
mbkowns
Got Bandwidth?

join:2003-07-01
Riverside, CA

Re: 16mb / 2mb Status Update

This thread ended up on the main page lol thats cool
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dwykofka

join:2004-12-07
Greenville, SC
·Charter Pipeline

16/2mb is nice and I will most likely make the bump however I would prefer that they drop qwest as a provider here in SC. I had great routing with ATT and low consistent latency, now that qwest has taken over most of the routes my connection is all over the place.

sudogreg

join:2002-01-12
Washington, MO
cant wait for 16meg in franklin co. MO, and i jsut realized i have been a member of this site for almost 6 years, i guess when i first got charter high speed, anyone remember the days of bronze \ silver \ gold, and the old shark fin?
mbkowns
Got Bandwidth?

join:2003-07-01
Riverside, CA

Re: 16mb / 2mb Status Update

What about one-way cable
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jarablue
Always be true to yourself

join:2001-06-11
Worcester, MA
I really want to share the enthusiasm. I do..but I know 16 meg won't get here for 2 years at least..it took Charter 2 YEARS to upgrade this area from 1.5 meg to 2 meg. I will buy it as usual but I am not holding my breath this time.
markopoleo

join:2003-04-02
Bonne Terre, MO
·Charter Pipeline

Re: 16mb / 2mb Status Update

I know they have the capability here to upgrade to 16meg easy enough. Certain nights I will hit 16meg downloads off usenet for a few hours at a time. Not sure why its the same time frame.

I do wish they would offer something like 10meg/5meg though vs hardly moving upload speeds.
joker5656

join:2006-06-23
Dallas, GA
·Charter Pipeline

Re: 16mb / 2mb Status Update

said by markopoleo See Profile :

I know they have the capability here to upgrade to 16meg easy enough. Certain nights I will hit 16meg downloads off usenet for a few hours at a time. Not sure why its the same time frame.

I do wish they would offer something like 10meg/5meg though vs hardly moving upload speeds.
i think alot of people are with u on the upload, i wouldn't mind 10/5. the only thing i wish they would do is lower thier prices. its funny when u think of this, Verizion is offering higher speeds or about the same in areas that have no competition at lower prices compared to what charter offers. lower prices would mean more customers.

jarablue
Always be true to yourself

join:2001-06-11
Worcester, MA

I mean one good thing Charter has here in Worcester is 3 meg internet for 14.99 a month for 6 months. That is pretty damn good and cheap to me. I mean I remember paying Charter here in Worcester in 00 119.00 dollars a month for 1.5 down and 768 up. 14.99 is very good for 3meg for 6 months.

WyckedKnight

join:2004-07-12
Van Nuys, CA

Re: 16mb / 2mb Status Update

a 10/5 would be nice, but we are in charter land in which we get what they wanna offer..
dwykofka

join:2004-12-07
Greenville, SC
·Charter Pipeline

I am all over 16/2 once it hits GSP-SC

I had lunch with my business rep on friday and he had not heard about 16/2 but that seems par for the course lately. Charter does not do a good job of communicating internally.

I like the 16/2 for my home use but what I am really looking forward to is business service upgrades. I have 1 fiber line and a couple of business coax lines that all need more bandwidth. Other providers are chomping at the bit to get my business but I will give charter a little longer.

nolancj

join:2002-06-30
Long Beach, CA
How about delivering on the 10/1 I have now before offering more speed that won't be delivered???? How about that?
joker5656

join:2006-06-23
Dallas, GA
·Charter Pipeline

Re: 16mb / 2mb Status Update

said by nolancj See Profile :

How about delivering on the 10/1 I have now before offering more speed that won't be delivered???? How about that?
i feel sorry for cali. it seems that they have alot of problems out there. i get what i'm supposed to, or atleast close to it

WyckedKnight

join:2004-07-12
Van Nuys, CA

Re: 16mb / 2mb Status Update

I live in Cali. and about 70 to 80 percent of the time i get what I'm paying for but the latency is way to high for my tastes. the 70 to 80 percent could and should be improved i think though.
mbkowns
Got Bandwidth?

join:2003-07-01
Riverside, CA
I would like the people that have the service to start posting speed results.
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JeffB
Premium
join:2001-12-20
Somewhere

Re: 16mb / 2mb Status Update

Just got mine the day before yesterday (Fort Worth) and speeds have ranged from:



to



But it's mostly been below 10M on downstream and 1850-ish on the upstream. Those speeds may be worth the $49.99 promotional costs but I wouldn't pay $80/month for anything less than the fully advertised upload/download speeds.
mbkowns
Got Bandwidth?

join:2003-07-01
Riverside, CA

Re: 16mb / 2mb Status Update

anyone else outside of texas have it yet?
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joker5656

join:2006-06-23
Dallas, GA
·Charter Pipeline


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I noticed my speeds have increased a bit. i have the 5meg service, and i have been sustaining 4700-4800 download speeds its usually about 4400, and averaging 470-490 upload speeds which is usually around 450. thinking there upgrading the system, maybe?
mbkowns
Got Bandwidth?

join:2003-07-01
Riverside, CA

Re: 16mb / 2mb Status Update

Call them and see if your able to order the service. Any new ETA on 16 mb from others
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joker5656

join:2006-06-23
Dallas, GA

Re: 16mb / 2mb Status Update

i called about 2 weeks ago, my third post up, there was no info on it yet. i figure they will send out a flyer. i also plan on calling in a week or so, so we will see

jjgb10
Premium
join:2004-11-24
Kasson, MN
clubs:

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Just got off the phone with Charter retentions to get back in a promotion and they said that by the end of the year we should have 16/2m for the same price as 10meg now! She also said they were going to get rid of the 3meg.
joker5656

join:2006-06-23
Dallas, GA

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just called, the lady i spoke to said she had no clue as to when, and when they do find out, its usually a week or so before it comes out

So i will call back in a month or so

andunn

join:2001-09-06
Linn Creek, MO

Re: 16mb / 2mb Status Update

I would like faster speeds, but sadly Charter only offers 3MB as the fastest package here right now.
mbkowns
Got Bandwidth?

join:2003-07-01
Riverside, CA

Re: 16mb / 2mb Status Update

acutally for me in my area i get the flyer that the new service is available about a month or so after its been out and ready to order. So Ill keep hammerin the call center tell I can order it prob sooner then later.
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