JE
Can I Taste It? Mmmm
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join:2000-12-15
Brooklyn, NY
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July 13th, @01:06PM
| WOW!
Does this teach you penny pinchers, to stop paying for this 2 yuear around the block service?
ViaTalk will be the next to go. With a Business Model like that, you will never survive! It just doesn't work. Paying for a year ot two at one chunk of time, doesn't make the company money in the long run.
U have been warned. Your next bet is to sell your house, wife, and that brand new Lexus, and pay your bills on time, MONTHLY!
Look at Vonage, They have had BIG issues, still around. Look at Packet 8 and Lingo, still around! These places have had BIG issues, and I used their services before. They ahve a model that brings revenue monthly, may nt be much, but they are still chuggin along!
Companies who think that getting subs to pay $200 for 2 years of VOIP UPFRONT will keep them in the market are SADLY MISTAKEN! watch who's around this time next year, HINT: It won't be pre-paid for 2 years!
JE
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ib50MbSoon
Formerly TwoKDialup
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join:2002-06-07
Coloma, MI
| said by JE  :Does this teach you penny pinchers, to stop paying for this 2 yuear around the block service? Exactly!!
Let's rejoice in the possible death of another VoIP service so we can return to the days of 28¢ per min for intra-lata phone calls! Maybe they'll jack it up even higher on weekdays from 8am-5pm.
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itguy05
join:2005-06-17
Camp Hill, PA
| reply to JE
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Paying for a year ot two at one chunk of time, doesn't make the company money in the long run.
It does if the company invests and manages that $$ wisely. It's no different - getting $120 up front for a year of service or $10/mo for 1 year. It's how that company handles the $120 up front that makes or breaks them. |
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B
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join:2000-10-28
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said by JE :Does this teach you penny pinchers, to stop paying for this 2 yuear around the block service? No. Not in the slightest.
Any contract with a provider besides a baby bell is a gamble.
I got over a year of decent service from Sunrocket; if today was their last day I spent about $13 a month instead of $8 a month for unlimited phone service. I still think I won that gamble!
And I suspect the same can be said of Viatalk or Packet8 or maybe Voicepulse.
I'll take the 2-year bet again, thank you very much. Even if they only stay alive a year I'm ahead of a Vonage subscription at $25 month, let alone the crazy cableco VoIP pricing!
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caddyroger
Premium
join:2001-06-11
Graham, WA
 ·Comcast
| reply to JE
said by JE :Does this teach you penny pinchers, to stop paying for this 2 yuear around the block service? ViaTalk will be the next to go. With a Business Model like that, you will never survive! It just doesn't work. Paying for a year ot two at one chunk of time, doesn't make the company money in the long run. U have been warned. Your next bet is to sell your house, wife, and that brand new Lexus, and pay your bills on time, MONTHLY! Look at Vonage, They have had BIG issues, still around. Look at Packet 8 and Lingo, still around! These places have had BIG issues, and I used their services before. They ahve a model that brings revenue monthly, may nt be much, but they are still chuggin along! Companies who think that getting subs to pay $200 for 2 years of VOIP UPFRONT will keep them in the market are SADLY MISTAKEN! watch who's around this time next year, HINT: It won't be pre-paid for 2 years! JE Lets see pots line for me 12 months = $1188.00.
My voip provider for 12 months = $105.60. Savings so far $1082.40. Next 12 month saving is $1082.40 if voip don't shut down but of course I done have saved enough to pay a pots line for the next 19 month
Yep voip prices is a lot higher then pots.
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garrettm
join:2002-05-23
Beaverton, OR
| Was it the cost of the recurring service that was an issue or was it the fact that they were signing people on with free shipping($10), Free Gizmo($50) and Free Telephones($30). Then on top of all this a marketing campaign. If you are only making $3 of gross margin per line, it takes you 29 months just to make back the crap you sent out free to everyone. That means your administrative/support expenses are in the hole for 30 months. Almost all the voip providers charge startup(for the box) and shipping. The smartest thing to do(not necessarily the most ethical) is declare bankruptcy and sell out the existing accounts. Anyone you owe money to(for hardware) goes away and then you start charging a signup fee. |
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tc1uscg
join:2005-03-09
Saint Clair Shores, MI
·Comcast
·WOW Internet and C..
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July 16th, @02:19AM
| reply to caddyroger
said by caddyroger :said by JE :Does this teach you penny pinchers, to stop paying for this 2 yuear around the block service? ViaTalk will be the next to go. With a Business Model like that, you will never survive! It just doesn't work. Paying for a year ot two at one chunk of time, doesn't make the company money in the long run. U have been warned. Your next bet is to sell your house, wife, and that brand new Lexus, and pay your bills on time, MONTHLY! Look at Vonage, They have had BIG issues, still around. Look at Packet 8 and Lingo, still around! These places have had BIG issues, and I used their services before. They ahve a model that brings revenue monthly, may nt be much, but they are still chuggin along! Companies who think that getting subs to pay $200 for 2 years of VOIP UPFRONT will keep them in the market are SADLY MISTAKEN! watch who's around this time next year, HINT: It won't be pre-paid for 2 years! JE Lets see pots line for me 12 months = $1188.00. My voip provider for 12 months = $105.60. Savings so far $1082.40. Next 12 month saving is $1082.40 if voip don't shut down but of course I done have saved enough to pay a pots line for the next 19 month Yep voip prices is a lot higher then pots. Don't forget to add your BB too. Just because you may have it for "internet access" doesn't mean you shouldn't add it for over head too. So, if your paying 40 bucks a mo for HSI.. That's still only 480.00 plus your SR fee. Now, if your paying that much for POTS.. your either dump or can't add. I have AT&T pots and pay 50 bucks a month (including all those fees) for unlimited local and LD with a host of nice features yep.. had dumbrocket and voiceeclipse for about 30 months total and wised up). Now that the wife is working for home and requires a L/L (no VoIP or cell connection allowed), that amount is written off taxes.. So, for the satisfaction of knowing that at 3am, I'm going to have dial tone.. it's worth every penny.  |
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B
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join:2000-10-28
| Sorry, that's just a stupid argument. What does the broadband bill have to do with it?
Perhaps he or she should add his electric bill and mortgage payment to the total too, so that you can feel better paying twice as much for POTS as the most expensive 3rd party VoIP provider charges?
It's great that you feel better paying for POTS and you feel you're getting your money's worth, but don't call people "dump" if they can't get the same telco deal in Washington that you can in Michigan, or if they feel it's worth the gamble to to pay less than half what you're paying. You're just being silly.
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tc1uscg
join:2005-03-09
Saint Clair Shores, MI
·Comcast
·WOW Internet and C..
| said by B :Sorry, that's just a stupid argument. What does the broadband bill have to do with it? Perhaps he or she should add his electric bill and mortgage payment to the total too, so that you can feel better paying twice as much for POTS as the most expensive 3rd party VoIP provider charges? It's great that you feel better paying for POTS and you feel you're getting your money's worth, but don't call people "dump" if they can't get the same telco deal in Washington that you can in Michigan, or if they feel it's worth the gamble to to pay less than half what you're paying. You're just being silly. -- B Sorta like paying 1200 a year for POTS. Maybe calling internationally but reg local/LD? Give me a break.  |
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B
Premium,MVM
join:2000-10-28
| Maybe you're right; maybe not. It depends on where you live. I'm in the northeast and I think I was paying around $70 for little more than local calling on a single number. (But please don't call me "dump" for it.) I could easily imagine a bill going over 100 a month, particularly if more than one POTS line is involved.
Just because something is true, or feels true, for you doesn't mean it applies equally to everyone else in the country...
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tc1uscg
join:2005-03-09
Saint Clair Shores, MI
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July 18th, @12:46AM
| Agreed.. I won't call you dumb if you don't call me stupid.. Truce  |
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