bogey780
join:2004-03-19
Here
| Re: Depressing. You can't legislate things to become cheaper than the cost to produce. Well you can...but you end up with producers producing less. Have people learned nothing from price controls?
New equipment for broadband is expensive. Most of these other country's never had a lot of legacy equipment to replace or to even maintain so them leapfrogging the US is a given. Not to mention the relative density. | |
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Memyself
@pdf.com
| Re: Depressing. Hogwash. Most europeans markets have been deregulated by the government, thereby fostering more competition. This has nothing to do with some kind of government run telecom business and has everything to do with the regulator doing its job, which is to foster competition.
People have a hard time seeing past their preconceived ideas apparently...  | |
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 | bogey780
join:2004-03-19
Here
| Re: Depressing. 'People have a hard time seeing past their preconceived ideas apparently'
Yes, indeed. You have the preconceived notion that regulation makes the market better.
Goverment mandated competition doesn't help the market. We had a whole decade of regulatory created competition to prove that canard wrong. | |
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| | Ahrenl
join:2004-10-26
North Andover, MA
 ·Verizon FIOS
| Re: Depressing. So your contention is that government provided wire-line monopolies make the market better?
This market already has regulation, it just needs to be done properly. The question of more/less is hyperbole. We need more good regulation, and less bad regulation. | |
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join:2004-03-19
Here | Re: Depressing. Wheres the gov't monopoly? They all ended in 1984. | |
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| | | | Necronomikro
join:2005-09-01 | Re: Depressing. So, instead of one big monopoly, you have several smaller monopolies that won't intrude on each other's territories? ... | |
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join:2004-03-19
Here | Re: Depressing. So you're saying that if you live in at&t territory you can only get service from at&t? You know that's false. | |
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join:2005-09-01 | Re: Depressing. For pots service? Yes.
For broadband? Me, personally, yes. | |
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join:2004-03-19
Here | Re: Depressing. POTS has competition from cellular and VOIP. You may not think that they do...the FCC may not think they do but in the marketplace they certainly do. | |
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join:2002-04-08
San Francisco, CA
clubs: | Re: Depressing. And how does Cellular and VOIP relate to DSL? | |
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join:2004-03-19
Here | Re: Depressing. They relate the POTS. That's why I said specifically when the prior post said POTS, I referenced POTS in my rebuttal. It's Engligh 101. If the prior post referenced DSL I would have made a reply referencing it. | |
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join:2005-09-01 | Funny, I didn't know there was competitive cell service back in 1984! | |
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join:2004-10-26
North Andover, MA
·Verizon FIOS
| The government monopoly (or oligopoly more correctly) is that it is not possible to build competing wireline services because of physical limits to Public ROW space. That is the government wire-line monopoly (oligopoly). There is no widely available competition in wireline broadband. Satelite and wireless are still not comparable.
Since the government MUST provide wireline monopolies (oligopolies) because no one wants 1,000 different networks wired over their neighborhoods, they also must provide effective and fair regulation for those networks. ANY business that uses the public domain as a profit center can and should be subject to some additional regulation. If you're a private company, using private funding, operating on private land/assets then you're free to operate under the normal regulatory environment. | |
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