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fiberguy
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reply to KrK

Re: Full of BS

Thanks for armchair quarter-backing.

You've done little to change this post. When you called it a bundling penalty, you lost all credibility.

It was always a "discount" until someone (probably a cheap penny pincher) decided to call it a penalty because they always look at the cheapest route vs. actual price. Phone companies do this, actually invented this, and yet only cable catches shit for it?

I suppose that when you go to the grocery store and you see a special price "with coupon" that the regular price is the penalty for not having the coupon? To ward off future arguments, I suppose the cable of Coke for $4.00 (instead of the $6.99 price) WITH additional $25.00 purchase now becomes a penalty for those not wishing to buy more services and save? I just don't get this way of thinking.

Sooner or later reality will set in and then the conversation can continue.

But again, thanks for making my point even more clear.
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KrK
Heavy Artillery For The Little Guy
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Tulsa, OK
It's not a discount. It's a price scheme designed to keep people locked into services.

In the same way "Naked DSL" is offered for $1-$2 less then DSL + POTS line. That's no deal. If you believe that the pricing is not set very deliberately and with intent to keep customers out of competitor's hands then you're the one who needs a dose of reality.

Yes, a PENALTY. The only way it would not be a penalty is if the pricing structure was the same for either service and then you got a discount when you added the second....

With CableTV, it works like this. You can get CableTV for $40 a month. Then you can get Cable Internet for $25 a month on top of that.... $65 a month for both. BUT should you only want Cable Internet and refuse to get the TV (Because you want to get it from oh, say DBS) then the price for Cable Internet is $59.00 a month.... That's no "discount". It's a penalty price to make sure you keep CableTV and stay off DBS, that's what it is.
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"Regulatory capitalism is when companies invest in lawyers, lobbyists, and politicians, instead of plant, people, and customer service." - former FCC Chairman William Kennard (A real FCC Chairman, unlike the current Corporate Spokesperson in the job!)

fiberguy
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said by KrK:

With CableTV, it works like this. You can get CableTV for $40 a month. Then you can get Cable Internet for $25 a month on top of that.... $65 a month for both. BUT should you only want Cable Internet and refuse to get the TV (Because you want to get it from oh, say DBS) then the price for Cable Internet is $59.00 a month.... That's no "discount". It's a penalty price to make sure you keep CableTV and stay off DBS, that's what it is.
Well? This is a long term argument. Here, Internet has always been $57.00 per month. However, they offered a bundle price for $42.00... So I guess it's all in how you 'choose' to look at it. In your example, you choose to look at the lowest price as "the" price of internet and the higher as a penalty.

Also, you're DSL example speaks clearly of AT&T systems. Qwest was the first ILEC to offer DSL "stand alone" aka "dry, naked, what ever"... They HARDLY offer the service at $1-$2 less than DSL + POTS. I DO, however, agree with the AT&T tactic. It's called the deal made with the Devil. This is classic of the devil's deals... "Sure, we'll offer DSL dry, but you didn't say it had to be at "X" price!!"

Want one further? Take Qwest, for example.. Qwest will offer you a cheaper price, however, it's with a "Qualifying" phone package. IE: You don't get the cheaper DSL price unless you have a 'specific' level of phone service.

Each service is not made equally in their pricing. However, the one thing that I don't see the unbundled price as a penalty. I know what it really costs to offer a service and bundling DOES save the company money. However, anyone is welcome to see it the way they choose.

Now back on topic..
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"Complaining is the least path of resistance for the self-serving, the lazy, and I’m told it’s a woman’s prerogative..."