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To be fair, the corn lobby in the US is increadibly powerful. That's why we use corn for ethanol, instead of vastly more efficient sugar cane like Brazil). We have high tariffs on sugar cane imports used for ethanol, and subsidized corn-based ethanol production. (Note: This isn't a baseless rant, but well accepted in economic journals)
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| said by cdigioia :To be fair, the corn lobby in the US is increadibly powerful. Your correct there. After that you down hill. While the rest of your post isn't totally inaccurate it's so far from the "rest of the story" it's ridiculous. -- »www.e85fuel.com »www.gm.com/company/onlygm/livegreengoyellow/ |
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| said by TCO1962 :Your correct there. After that you down hill.  While the rest of your post isn't totally inaccurate it's so far from the "rest of the story" it's ridiculous. I may be incorrect, I only remember this from a few journal articles, and one economics professor. Would you elaborate on the rest of the story that's relevant? |
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| reply to cdigioia The corn lobby and their actions against sugar importation are one reason that high fructose corn syrup has all but replaced sugar in many old favorites (Coca-Cola, Pepsi).
Their sugar-based counterparts continue to be produced and marketed elsewhere, however. |
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| "The corn lobby and their actions against sugar importation are one reason that high fructose corn syrup has all but replaced sugar in many old favorites (Coca-Cola, Pepsi).
Their sugar-based counterparts continue to be produced and marketed elsewhere, however."
Coca-Cola made with actual sugar is sooooo much better than that made high-fructose corn syrup (imho). But it is damn hard to find. |
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| said by tlniec :"The corn lobby and their actions against sugar importation are one reason that high fructose corn syrup has all but replaced sugar in many old favorites (Coca-Cola, Pepsi).
Their sugar-based counterparts continue to be produced and marketed elsewhere, however."Coca-Cola made with actual sugar is sooooo much better than that made high-fructose corn syrup (imho). But it is damn hard to find. Coca-Cola still produces the Sucrose syrup in quantity for international distribution, as the sugar isn't tariffed elsewhere to protect corn. (Although I really love corn, just not as a sweetener).
Basically every market other than North America utilizes sucrose-based syrup, rather than HFCS. |
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| reply to cdigioia said by cdigioia :said by TCO1962 :Your correct there. After that you down hill.  While the rest of your post isn't totally inaccurate it's so far from the "rest of the story" it's ridiculous. I may be incorrect, I only remember this from a few journal articles, and one economics professor. Would you elaborate on the rest of the story that's relevant? He won't because you're right, he's just being an @ss... --
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| reply to 43193594 said by 43193594 :said by tlniec :"The corn lobby and their actions against sugar importation are one reason that high fructose corn syrup has all but replaced sugar in many old favorites (Coca-Cola, Pepsi).
Their sugar-based counterparts continue to be produced and marketed elsewhere, however."Coca-Cola made with actual sugar is sooooo much better than that made high-fructose corn syrup (imho). But it is damn hard to find. Coca-Cola still produces the Sucrose syrup in quantity for international distribution, as the sugar isn't tariffed elsewhere to protect corn. (Although I really love corn, just not as a sweetener). Basically every market other than North America utilizes sucrose-based syrup, rather than HFCS. Exactly. Mopre often than not I have a feeling the US Gov deliberately posion its population to make sure they will pay the completely out-of-touch price for healthcare.
HFCS IS BAD FOR YOU. BAD, BAD, VERY BAD - yet it is FORCFULLY PUSHED DOWN ON EVERYBODY'S THROAT by the US Gov.
Read more here: »www.westonaprice.org/modernfood/···ose.html »www.thefitshack.com/2007/06/19/h···ference/ --
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| reply to tlniec I'd agree...but then I'm waiting for Coca-Cola to take out the carcinogens in their canned sodas and syrups.
»news.independent.co.uk/health/ar···6652.ece
Dunno what the timetable is that they agreed to in the lawsuits is though. |
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join:2001-02-10 Santa Clarita, CA | reply to cdigioia Don't forget switchgrass as a great starting point for ethanol. »en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Switchgrass. |
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| reply to kamm said by kamm :said by cdigioia :said by TCO1962 :Your correct there. After that you down hill.  While the rest of your post isn't totally inaccurate it's so far from the "rest of the story" it's ridiculous. I may be incorrect, I only remember this from a few journal articles, and one economics professor. Would you elaborate on the rest of the story that's relevant? He won't because you're right, he's just being an @ss... You're incorrect on both counts. Sorry I don't have the time to educate you at the moment. -- »www.e85fuel.com »www.gm.com/company/onlygm/livegreengoyellow/ |
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