nklb
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My vote is that it was not detected because the AV companies don't have access to it to create the definitions.
The FBI is not exactly interested in showing everyone what their secret programs executables are.
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Agent_haito
join:2002-09-20
Winston Salem, NC | I wonder if any other foreign governments are doing the same, creating as of yet unknown malware, to penetrate our Networks....  |
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bhan261
join:2001-02-12
New York, NY | Or worse...creating zombies that could be activated to take down our computer infrastructure in a terrorist attack.
Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean someone isn't out to get you. |
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swhx7
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Elbonia
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It appears only in the relatively rare cases of investigations, and is undoubtedly different from any private-sector spyware.
Even if the security-software vendors did have samples, they probably wouldn't build detection into their products. There's a thread about this issue: »Whitelisting keyloggers for law enforcement
It would become possible to detect it if they started using it more widely, because sooner or later they'd target someone who would be astute enough to detect it and would share the info. |
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NewMariner
join:2005-06-24
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said by Agent_haito  :I wonder if any other foreign governments are doing the same, creating as of yet unknown malware, to penetrate our Networks.... Im sure the leaders of the world are interested in how much pron you download...  |
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RayW
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said by Agent_haito :I wonder if any other foreign governments are doing the same, creating as of yet unknown malware, to penetrate our Networks.... Too late, China has already been doing that and it took the Feds until about a year ago to discover it. At least that was when all of a sudden a lot of restrictions were placed on what we can do with and to our desktops and accounts, and SURPRISE, a lot of technical resources disappeared since they are in blocked Asian IP's.
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wifi4milez
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I hope you do realize this (foreign governments/terrorists creating undetectable malware) has absolutely nothing to do with "pron", and truly could have far reaching national security ramifications. Some people really think everything is a joke........
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scrummie02
Bentley
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join:2004-04-16
Arlington, VA
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meh...not concerned.
We've been doing that a lot longer than they have. Not to mention a good majority of their stuff is American made.
People seem to think China has the upper hand on us...they don't. Except for man-power, they aren't even close militarily, technologically and they lack innovation.
At this point I'd me more worried about terrorist cells, they are harder to track and a surprising number are actually educated here or the UK.
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Anon users
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Read between Lines: 'The FBI used the spyware after it had obtained server logs from Google and MySpace, which gave them an IP address that led to an infected computer in Italy'
Google and MySpace become the 'major suspect's...
BTW, Google prohibits Anonymous Use of its search engine starting couples of months ago... |
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RayW
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I read a sci-fi short story back in the 70's or 80's that talked about how a couple of terrorist cells smuggled pieces of a pocket nuke into several US cities and then set them off, triggering a nuclear exchange between USSR and USA. The story was written as a top secret report on that piece of history, and the last paragraph (as I recall) ended with the revelation that China was now the top dog, and had instigated that action. That was before anyone really thought that China had anything going for it.
I think that China has more ability than most people think they do, it is just the fact that they have much more people at a lower 'standard' than the 'West' causes many to think the entire country is that way. And yes, you are probably right about innovation, the information available implies that the penetration of our systems was a result of some of Microsoft's trade deals with China and the MS Windows internal information that they got and the ability to find more of the hidden 'features' that most of us consider holes or bugs in the Microsoft software.
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drussel2
join:2002-11-05
San Diego, CA
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That attitude is one of the things I think is "wrong with this (USA) country..."
"Everybody" is so busy pushing their finger into the air shouting, "We're number one, we're number one"... the rest of the world is quickly catching up/passing us by.
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scrummie02
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| It's not a problem. The Chinese aren't as technological as you think. Ones that are work here with us because it's a better standard of living. They can't innovate. most if not all of their advances are copies of our stuff or actually American goods (with a small amount copied from the Russians). That's a fact.
I'd still be more worried about Jihadist who are winning the propaganda war against us by using our own technology.
That's not nationalism, it's the way it is.
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peter_m
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Canada, QC | reply to wifi4milez
I just want to have my PC back! |
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swhx7
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said by Anon users :
BTW, Google prohibits Anonymous Use of its search engine starting couples of months ago...
What do you mean by this? They've started presenting a CAPTCHA if a query appears to come from a script, but as long as you're a person using a browser you don't have to give anything more than your IP address and HTTP headers. |
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Lil Jon
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join:2006-06-26
Lawrenceville, GA
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said by nklb :My vote is that it was not detected because the AV companies don't have access to it to create the definitions. The FBI is not exactly interested in showing everyone what their secret programs executables are. co-sign
interesting stuff |
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