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Jason Levine
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Would you put photos of children online?

The director of my son's daycare decided that she wants to have a photo gallery of the kids in the center. The marketing department head nixed the idea out of hand saying "we would be very opposed to putting pictures of children on a website that any pervert could access". Parents would have to sign a consent form before their child's photo would appear online and no names would be attached to the photos. Plus, all photos would feature the kids fully clothed. (No "Beach Day" or "The Kids Play In The Sprinklers" shots.)

I happen to think that there's nothing wrong with doing this, but then again I'm the webmaster that would build the online gallery, possibly the photographer that would take the photos, and a parent of a child that would appear on the site, so I might be biased. So I was wondering what everyone here thought of this. Would you allow a photograph of your child to appear online like this?


Maccawolf
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First let me say that I have no children. (at least not two legged ones, only a couple with 4 legs and tails). I agree with signing a consent form AS WELL AS no names and fully clothed. Unfortunately, in this day and age you have to think of all the pervs out there.
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reply to Jason Levine
I've always been reluctant to put pictures of my kids up on this site or any other... just makes me uncomfortable. Maybe I'm too paranoid, or seen too many movies and after school specials
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pog
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reply to Jason Levine
First of all, I would question the motive. What need would a gallery fulfill? Who benefits? Who will visit?

If a legitimate need can be identified, then I would ask what are other ways to proceed?

The anti-perv statement is knee-jerk but it's not inappropriate. The day care has a published address and phone number... easily found. The pictures would be like menu items. In most/all states, licensed day care providers have background checks done... despite the fact that the vast majority are decent people. The more important fact is that there ARE some evil people out there. IOW, minor inconvenience to all vs major trauma to a few... I'm glad we choose to protect the few.

I'm willing to bet that the director has no compelling reason to add a gallery other than some inarticulable desire to be more "cutting edge" than competitors, etc. Sorry if I'm unfairly characterizing... but I face this all the time.
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July 23rd, @03:43PM

reply to Jason Levine
I would definitely oppose any posting of photographs of my kids on the Internet. We all know how easy it is to photochop a face or body of one image to another making a seemingly innocent picture into something else.

"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."(JFK)

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July 23rd, @04:00PM

reply to Jason Levine
I have posted pictures of my daughter here and on my personal website however neither site includes my name or address. The problem here is really that the site would include pictures of the children and where to find them. In general, its probably not a good idea although it is not uncommon for schools and such. I think including names of the children would certainly be a bad idea. Parental consent is a must.

It is a huge liability to the center should something bad happen and the website were implicated as the source.


Maccawolf
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reply to Jason Levine
I was just thinking. I may be WAY off base here, but a GALLERY could be password protected, couldn't it? that only people who are enrolled in the school would have access, but for just a page of kids showing the different activities and such, the faces could be blurred, couldn't they?
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jjoshua
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reply to Jason Levine
Simple. No.


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reply to Jason Levine
I also think it is a bad idea. I have noticed that sites that have school photos of students have them allowed to be accessed by parents only they are in a password protected album.

But like others have said and expressed what is the need for it? Advertising or just because someone wants to be cutting edge. I think not since any real purpose does not out weigh the potential dangers.
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jaykaykay
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reply to Jason Levine
In short, for those who feel they want to sign on to something like this, let them make their own decisions. However, were I asked for a release, they wouldn't get one. Sure, I've posted images of children here, but that's not the same thing as a pre school that has a connected address, etc. I can't imagine a legit reason for doing it other than advertising for their pre school. I am sure there are enough people out there who would not mind having their children on line and maybe even be proud of it with the associated pre school, but no reason I can think of would make me do it.
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July 23rd, @05:07PM

reply to Jason Levine
I've pondered this before because I often take photos of young kids in sport activities and I post them in password protected galleries. But I wonder how big a deal it is putting photos of kids on Websites (with permission of course) when a would be predator could simply sit in the parking lot or nearby road of said school and observe for themselves what kids are there... and even take photos for themselves. Just a thought.

Edit - let me qualify my statement above... I take photos at games etc where the parents have asked me to do so.
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Jahntassa
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reply to Jason Levine
If it were a password protected gallery for the parents to visit, that'd be one thing. But a free-access gallery, no way. If they want to have pictures of kids 'having fun' or whatnot to promote an image, I would steer more toward stock photographs that have nothing to do with the kids actually attending.

Mostly following along the lines of another post, about how the place would be easily found.


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reply to pog
I think your opinion matters more than most pog, you have been posting enough pictures here that we feel your kids are family , i personally can't look beyond and add malice to a photo of a child, it's beyond me how a pervert would look at the same picture with a totally different point of view. If i was a parent with young children i wouldn't worry about posting a photos of my kids on-line but, i can see the point of view of parents who feel a need to protect their kids and wont post photos on-line.

Bottom line i feel that the parents signing a release and the dress code are very appropriate in this situation.


tigers

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reply to Jason Levine
I post pics of my kids on a personal site, but I'll never post them on a more widely known site. I put one pic of my daughter of Flickr and forgot to set the photo to private and got a rather strange comment posted to the pic within minutes.

Also, I keep pretty tight tabs on the visitors to my website and If I see a bunch of ip's hitting that particular gallery that I don't know about, I'll put a password on it.

Maybe I'm overzealous, but while the internet is wonderful, it has also become an enabler for all sorts of wacko behavior.

And our kids daycare had us sign a release to have their photos taken, but not for the internet. These were just photos for the parent newsletter.


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reply to Jason Levine
In a word? No. In more words, hell no. Unfortunately given the world we live in the menu analogy rings far too true. A private gallery, maybe, but one that's publicly viewable? No way. Not to mention the releases involved, and the COPPA and Child Protection Restoration and Penalties Enhancement Acts it's more hassle than it's worth, in my opinion.

That said, I do have pictures of children in a wedding on my gallery, but there's no way to readily identify where they live and it is with the full blessing of the parents with a signed release on file.
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reply to Jason Levine
No! Not! Never! This aint the 50's no more.

Just my humble opinion.

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reply to Jason Levine
I just want to say that it amazes me how reactionary people have gotten in recent years regarding pictures of children, despite the actual incidence of sexual abuse declining for quite some time now. The news media and politicians are screaming about it more loudly than ever, though, for ratings and votes, respectively.

That said, I don't have kids and don't photograph them, so all I've got are statistics.


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reply to jjoshua
said by jjoshua See Profile :

Simple. No.
I concur. Just 'cause.


Jodokast96
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reply to Jason Levine
As a father, I too have been reluctant to post any photo's of any kids, especially my own. I may have (but not 100% sure) posted a few in here when asking for help with things, but I limit it as much as possible. As far as your specific question, I might be ok with large group shots showing certain activities or special events, but would a lot less open to portraits.


MIRV

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reply to Jason Levine
Absolutely No.
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