Answer Guy
join:2006-07-28
Grass Lake, MI | reply to Ahrenl
Re: Nice!
Yup, but don't forget that 78% of all statistics are made up on the spot. |
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Ulmo
join:2005-09-22
San Jose, CA
 ·Comcast
 ·SONIC.NET
1 edit | reply to DrModem
said by DrModem  :Ahem, moving is MORE expensive than running service out to nowhere probably. "Just move if you don't like it" is the most idiotic and dumb suggestion I've ever heard. People move to cities for better access to various items, including among other things, economies of scale, such as with utilities. However, because of high density and demand, they must pay high costs for some items such as real estate and anything that's bottlenecked or corrupted like shipping charges, etc.. There are also benefits to moving out to rural areas, or the in-between, suburban. If you live out there, you probably own your own home too, so you ought to build or hire someone to build your own network rather than bitching about someone else not doing it for you.
If the situation is that your government puts impediments to you doing so yourself, then you have to support and/or create organization(s) that band together those who want Internet to go out and change the government and have the networks installed themselves (or by those they hire).
You pay less for some items, like real estate, safety from low class people that have been shoved into welfare highrises in cities for historical political reasons, etc.., and you pay more for some items that lack the same economies of scale like utilities.
If you are in a suburban or "high density rural" (oxymoron) area, then you have to realize exactly the type of area it is and what your responsibilities and capabilities in it are.
So, it's not idiotic or rediculous. There are some things that others should do for you since you have already paid them a lot of money, but there are other things that you should do for yourself since it is your job to do so. |
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dv
What was that?
Premium
join:2005-04-19
Goleta, CA | reply to Answer Guy
hey, if it comes from the answer guy, its gotta be true right? |
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NYC Girl
Premium
join:2007-02-04
Bronx, NY | reply to wifi4milez
Yeaaaa....., I can't wait!!!!  |
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Kearnstd
Elf Wizard
Premium
join:2002-01-22
Mullica Hill, NJ | reply to wifi4milez
Re: Nice!
fiber should go everywhere, rollout is most costly but upkeep is lower then copper.
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KD4CVR
join:2000-09-21
Gainesville, GA | reply to Answer Guy
5 out of 4 people have trouble with statistics |
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Ahrenl
join:2004-10-26
North Andover, MA
 ·Verizon FIOS
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Fortunate that this is part of the 22% goodness then...
According to the U.S. Census Bureau, in 2000 there were 222,360,539 persons living in urban areas in the 50 states and DC -- 79 percent of the
281,421,906 total persons. Pg 13 (»www.freepress.net/docs/shooting_···nger.pdf) |
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wierdo
join:2001-02-16
Tulsa, OK
 ·Future Nine Corpor..
·Teliax VOIP
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said by Ahrenl :You do realize that 80% of the population in this country live near the urban centers right? More people think Bush is doing a good job, than live in Rural USA. Consider you may never get service unless your community builds it yourself. And many people who say "rural," mean "not in town but still in what the census bureau considers an urbanized area." If you count those people, who also can't get good broadband options because the density isn't there, you'd probably get more than 80%. |
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Tzale
Proud Libertarian Conservative
Premium
join:2004-01-06
Sweden
·Verizon FIOS
·Optimum Online
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said by RARPSL :said by Tzale :In 2007, broadband is NOT needed to have a high standard of living. People should not expect Verizon to spend millions of dollars to provide FIOS to 10 people in a square mile that will take thousands of years to regain the money lost on rollout there. I am willing to accept that Verizon should be able to decide if they want to service an area so long as their decision to not service it PRECLUDES their spending 1 cent to prevent that area from creating their own Broadband Service. IOW: If you do not want to service it, you have NO RIGHT to fight someone who does (in court or the legislature). With the amount of Bribes and Court Costs to fight Muni Systems, the Telcos would have had money left over after just servicing the area in most cases. I agree 100% on that...
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