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The Way Out

join:2003-01-20
reply to DrModem
Re: Nice!

Providing service to people in the middle of nowhere is expensive. Consider moving.


RR Conductor
RailRoadDude
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join:2002-04-02
Redwood Valley, CA
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said by The Way Out See Profile :

Providing service to people in the middle of nowhere is expensive. Consider moving.
One day, we rural areas will cut off your water, power and food, and you will have only your fiber to eat MUHAHAHA


DrModem
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join:2006-10-19
USA
·EarthLink
·1and1
·PeoplePC


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reply to The Way Out
Ahem, moving is MORE expensive than running service out to nowhere probably.

"Just move if you don't like it" is the most idiotic and dumb suggestion I've ever heard.

I wish the rural and urban situations could be switched so I could see the urban people cry out like rural people do when they realize they have A satellite or B dialup.

Ahrenl

join:2004-10-26
North Andover, MA
You do realize that 80% of the population in this country live near the urban centers right? More people think Bush is doing a good job, than live in Rural USA. Consider you may never get service unless your community builds it yourself.


robbob340
K.U. Sweet 16
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join:2001-02-15
Wichita, KS
reply to DrModem
My sister and brother in law have dsl at a location in a town that probably has 50-75 people. Keep on your local telco to deliver what they should!
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ninjatutle
Premium

join:2006-01-02
San Ramon, CA
reply to RR Conductor
One day we in the city will use the internet to halt all orders of toilet paper from being delivered to the ruals. Good luck with your fresh leaves MUHAHAHA

Blackened
Your Freedom Fries Are Stale

join:2003-09-29

reply to Ahrenl
said by Ahrenl See Profile :

Consider you may never get service unless your community builds it yourself.
Yep, exactly why I don't want a rural home. I find broadband and connectivity essential. If that's what you desire as well, move closer to the city. Simple as that. If you're a hermit or xenophobe, sucks to be you.

Answer Guy

join:2006-07-28
Grass Lake, MI
reply to Ahrenl
Yup, but don't forget that 78% of all statistics are made up on the spot.

Ulmo

join:2005-09-22
San Jose, CA
·Comcast
·SONIC.NET


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reply to DrModem
said by DrModem See Profile :

Ahem, moving is MORE expensive than running service out to nowhere probably.

"Just move if you don't like it" is the most idiotic and dumb suggestion I've ever heard.
People move to cities for better access to various items, including among other things, economies of scale, such as with utilities. However, because of high density and demand, they must pay high costs for some items such as real estate and anything that's bottlenecked or corrupted like shipping charges, etc.. There are also benefits to moving out to rural areas, or the in-between, suburban. If you live out there, you probably own your own home too, so you ought to build or hire someone to build your own network rather than bitching about someone else not doing it for you.

If the situation is that your government puts impediments to you doing so yourself, then you have to support and/or create organization(s) that band together those who want Internet to go out and change the government and have the networks installed themselves (or by those they hire).

You pay less for some items, like real estate, safety from low class people that have been shoved into welfare highrises in cities for historical political reasons, etc.., and you pay more for some items that lack the same economies of scale like utilities.

If you are in a suburban or "high density rural" (oxymoron) area, then you have to realize exactly the type of area it is and what your responsibilities and capabilities in it are.

So, it's not idiotic or rediculous. There are some things that others should do for you since you have already paid them a lot of money, but there are other things that you should do for yourself since it is your job to do so.


dv
What was that?
Premium
join:2005-04-19
Goleta, CA
reply to Answer Guy
hey, if it comes from the answer guy, its gotta be true right?

KD4CVR

join:2000-09-21
Gainesville, GA
reply to Answer Guy
5 out of 4 people have trouble with statistics

Ahrenl

join:2004-10-26
North Andover, MA
·Verizon FIOS

reply to Answer Guy
Fortunate that this is part of the 22% goodness then...

According to the U.S. Census Bureau, in 2000 there were 222,360,539 persons living in urban areas in the 50 states and DC -- 79 percent of the
281,421,906 total persons.
Pg 13 (»www.freepress.net/docs/shooting_···nger.pdf)

wierdo

join:2001-02-16
Tulsa, OK
·Future Nine Corpor..
·Teliax VOIP

reply to Ahrenl
said by Ahrenl See Profile :

You do realize that 80% of the population in this country live near the urban centers right? More people think Bush is doing a good job, than live in Rural USA. Consider you may never get service unless your community builds it yourself.
And many people who say "rural," mean "not in town but still in what the census bureau considers an urbanized area." If you count those people, who also can't get good broadband options because the density isn't there, you'd probably get more than 80%.
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