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 RR ConductorHappy 40th AmtrakPremium
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kudos:1 | reply to Tzale
Re: Nice! said by Tzale:said by DrModem:yea. i just wish they would work on putting stuff out to people who dont have anything but dialup instead of just piling 10,000 options on people in urban areas.  Move if you don't like your options... It's a free country and Verizon is free to do as they please. They aren't the government, therefore you don't have a right to FIOS... It's a product they want to make MONEY off of. -Tzale Geez, relax!!
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 TzaleProud Libertarian ConservativePremium
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NYC Metro | said by RR Conductor:said by Tzale:said by DrModem:yea. i just wish they would work on putting stuff out to people who dont have anything but dialup instead of just piling 10,000 options on people in urban areas. Move if you don't like your options... It's a free country and Verizon is free to do as they please. They aren't the government, therefore you don't have a right to FIOS... It's a product they want to make MONEY off of. -Tzale Geez, relax!! I am relaxed.... I'm just stating the same thing for the millionth time... People in rural areas think they have a right to FIOS, it will come to you when it is profitable. Otherwise, don't expect to see it anytime soon unless you put the money out yourself or you live near an affluent person who wants to spend millions rolling fiber out to your area.
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RR ConductorHappy 40th AmtrakPremium
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1 edit | I hate the us vs.them mentality, I really do. I hate it from the rural areas towards the cities, and I hate it from the cities toward the rural areas.
As one who lives in a very rural area, I have seen and experienced first hand the cities disdain for us. We get projects approved and funding set aside, only to have cities yank them away after some whining congressman in L.A or SF cries foul "how dare those hicks ask for anything, they should be happy with what they have!".
Also, as one who was born and raised in the L.A. area of SoCal, I have seen and experienced first hand the same thing from rural towards cities "let them get their own stupid water!...who would want to live in such awful, stinking places!", etc.
We are all entitled to things that better our lives, and "promote the general welfare", not just those who can afford it, or who happen to live near whatever it is everybody else wants-ie.food, water, etc.
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PwnZone | reply to Tzale
said by RR Conductor:We are all entitled to things that better our lives, and "promote the general welfare", not just those who can afford it, or who happen to live near whatever it is everybody else wants-ie.food, water, etc. this is broadbandreports, not foodreports or waterreports. urban areas have better broadband options then rural areas; therefore on this website cities pwn rural. It is our obligation to flame j00 for suggesting otherwise.
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Ahrenl
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North Andover, MA | reply to RR Conductor
{Standard Response}
You do realize that 80% of the population in this country live near the urban centers right? More people think Bush is doing a good job, than live in Rural USA. Consider you may never get service unless your community builds it yourself.
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TzaleProud Libertarian ConservativePremium
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NYC Metro | reply to RR Conductor
said by RR Conductor:I hate the us vs.them mentality, I really do. I hate it from the rural areas towards the cities, and I hate it from the cities toward the rural areas. As one who lives in a very rural area, I have seen and experienced first hand the cities disdain for us. We get projects approved and funding set aside, only to have cities yank them away after some whining congressman in L.A or SF cries foul "how dare those hicks ask for anything, they should be happy with what they have!". Also, as one who was born and raised in the L.A. area of SoCal, I have seen and experienced first hand the same thing from rural towards cities "let them get their own stupid water!...who would want to live in such awful, stinking places!", etc. We are all entitled to things that better our lives, and "promote the general welfare", not just those who can afford it, or who happen to live near whatever it is everybody else wants-ie.food, water, etc. Listen, I have nothing against rural areas. The thing is that telephone service, phone service, water, electricity, etc are part of a standard of living. In 2007, broadband is NOT needed to have a high standard of living. People should not expect Verizon to spend millions of dollars to provide FIOS to 10 people in a square mile that will take thousands of years to regain the money lost on rollout there.
Urban/Suburban areas are much easier to profit from since you can provide service to thousands of people for the same amount of money that it would cost to rollout to a dozen people in the sticks. Verizon is a company, not a welfare state. They are expected to turn a profit for their investors at the end of the quarter.
-Tzale
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Suffern, NY | said by Tzale:In 2007, broadband is NOT needed to have a high standard of living. People should not expect Verizon to spend millions of dollars to provide FIOS to 10 people in a square mile that will take thousands of years to regain the money lost on rollout there. I am willing to accept that Verizon should be able to decide if they want to service an area so long as their decision to not service it PRECLUDES their spending 1 cent to prevent that area from creating their own Broadband Service. IOW: If you do not want to service it, you have NO RIGHT to fight someone who does (in court or the legislature). With the amount of Bribes and Court Costs to fight Muni Systems, the Telcos would have had money left over after just servicing the area in most cases. | | |
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NYC Metro | reply to RARPSL
Re: Nice! said by RARPSL:said by Tzale:In 2007, broadband is NOT needed to have a high standard of living. People should not expect Verizon to spend millions of dollars to provide FIOS to 10 people in a square mile that will take thousands of years to regain the money lost on rollout there. I am willing to accept that Verizon should be able to decide if they want to service an area so long as their decision to not service it PRECLUDES their spending 1 cent to prevent that area from creating their own Broadband Service. IOW: If you do not want to service it, you have NO RIGHT to fight someone who does (in court or the legislature). With the amount of Bribes and Court Costs to fight Muni Systems, the Telcos would have had money left over after just servicing the area in most cases. I agree 100% on that...
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