Rick
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join:2001-02-06
Waterbury, CT
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Re: Evolution of the VoIP market?
said by fiberguy  :... Line 'em up! Who's next? I'll take a stab at that question.
How about..(Rick puts on Flame suit first) ...Viatalk?
Aren't we talking about a company here with the same business model as Sun Rocket? While we certainly don't have access to their financial statements (might be good that we don't)..I'm hard pressed to find any differences in reviewing their business model.
What model is that? Apparently to entice users to pay their whole fee up front.
You KNOW folks, you or I could EASILY pay our household expenses each month if our employers..paid us our whole yearly salary up front.
But hey..what about those nagging electric bills that will come rolling around 7 months later?
Of course, that will take you taking on a BORDER and having HIS employer pay HIM his whole yearly salary up front too...right?
Now, I know the save 3.00 bucks a month at any and all cost BBR crowd ran right over to ViaTalk at the first sign of SR's failure...
but really, you shouldn't come crying if in a few months..it's the same old song and dance coming out of viatalk..or any other similar provider...for that matter.
C'mon now folks..wake UP to reality.Ok?
Comcast and others charge 40.00 for the service (standalone...about 33.00 as part of triple play)
AT&T and Verizon..about 25.00 for their respective services.
Vonage..about the same.
How in the WORLD do you think any long lasting.legitimate company can shrink that down to the 7.00 and change some of them are?
BY COLLECTING YOUR MONEY UP FRONT.
That's how.
Far be it for me to be AT&T's biggest fan (lol)...but I do have to hand it to them for their VOIP pricing now.
20~25.00 per month unlimited is DAMN good pricing for their callvantage service. And,at least there's much more financial stability behind this company.
Doesn't VALUE..also equate to stability in the company you deal with? And, shouldn't being at least a little bit REALISTIC guide your buying habits?
To be clear about this..i'm not picking on VT. It's the whole remaining industry that is questionable IMHO.
And, until all of them post their financial statements...I think it's VERY fair to assume that if it weren't for these upfront fees...every one of them would be 6 feet under right now.
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schipperke
join:1999-11-29
Potomac, MD
 ·Verizon FIOS
| Maybe these VOIP companies getting a couple hundred bucks upfront, are really Hedge Funds using the VOIP business as a front 
Anyway, if SR did have in excess of 200,000 subscribers, that is some serious revenue per year, lets say over $40M. I still think they were banking on being bought, but why would any larger VOIP company want them when they are already commanding a higher fee? Why would I want to buy a competitor with lower margins than I'm getting? |
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kyler13
Is your fiber grounded?
join:2006-12-12
Arnold, MD
 ·ViaTalk
·Verizon FIOS
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said by Rick :Far be it for me to be AT&T's biggest fan (lol)...but I do have to hand it to them for their VOIP pricing now. 20~25.00 per month unlimited is DAMN good pricing for their callvantage service. And,at least there's much more financial stability behind this company. Doesn't VALUE..also equate to stability in the company you deal with? And, shouldn't being at least a little bit REALISTIC guide your buying habits? I looked long and hard at CallVantage, but being a FIOS customer, I would be stuck with putting the ATA in front of my router. That seems to work well, but since the ATA architecture is 10baseT, I would be throwing away a third of my download speed. At least this was the issue back in January. No thanks. What you lose with bigger, more stable providers is flexbility and features. I would call AT&T the next best choice. You'll have to drag me back to landline kicking and screaming. An even larger price increase for marginal increase in stability and major decrease in features? Again, no thanks. |
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Rick
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join:2001-02-06
Waterbury, CT
clubs:
| If that is in fact the case with the hardware, I agree it could be a problem for some with fios and some cable co's speeds.
How about Verizon's voicewing? Have you looked into that?
My comments really shouldn't be misconstrued as an endorsement for AT^T callvantage...but rather what this competition has done for both these telcos in terms of their pricing, which certainly is very competitive these days and in line even with where vonage is priced at now.
As you point out however..that doesn't make it right for everyone.
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