wierdo
join:2001-02-16
Tulsa, OK
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Re: Ditch the contract and you may have a deal
Using screen scrapers, in violation of the terms of service of the various websites that offer listings. Zap2it is cutting off their XML based service soon.
In addition to the listings, there is the work involved in updating the software, (sometimes) subsidizing the box, bandwidth, running the servers to aggregate the information for TiVoCast and Swivel Search, and whatever other stuff they do that the unit queries their servers for. |
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matrix3D
join:2006-09-27
Deep River, CT
| reply to NOCMan
Let me quote my original post:
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With WoW, at least I can understand that some, if not most, of the monthly fee is used to pay for bandwidth and server maintenance and upgrades.
I already acknowledged that it costs money to maintain the servers and pay the people that do so. However, I pointed out that what TiVo is saying amounts to: "Pay us $300 for this DVR that SHOULD be able to record and timeshift WITHOUT our advertisements listing service but doesn't unless you pay us a monthly fee so we can make money off of you AND the advertisers." They're sucking through both ends of the straw. |
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fiberguy
My views are my own.
Premium
join:2005-05-20
| reply to NOCMan
Answer this long age old question.
Why is it you shell out the hundreds of dollars for a "DVR" and when you no longer pay their fee, you have what amounts to a paper weight?
Why can't you still use the box to time shift live TV? Why can't you set manual recordings? Why can't you view your saved programs and why can't you even watch regular TV any more?
We pay subscription fees to cable and satellite.. NOT TV. Tivo has built itself as a service, not hardware.
Where are the people crying out about this rip-off? Because that's what it is.
I purchased hardware that should not require a guide to work, technically. So what say you now?
(and Tivo TV Guide listings should not cost upwards of $19.99 a month... the listing is a relatively small download that is also ad supported. Everyone else charges about $4.95 a month for listings - even cable. Windows MediaCenter has been giving away the guide data for free all along and others can use Zap-2-it for guide data.)
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apollo80
join:2002-01-31
Richmond, VA
| reply to NOCMan
said by NOCMan  :As for the Tivo, the listings cost money, Don't PC tv tuner card software allow you to download tv listings for free? I don't buy that the company has to charge you for the listings.
Now everything else you mentined, I believe. |
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NOCMan
Verizon Fios User
Premium
join:2004-09-30
Flower Mound, TX
| reply to matrix3D
Online games cost money to keep running. Do you honestly thing that sales alone could generate enough money to keep such a massive game going smoothly.
You get what you pay for. Great game and worth the fee.
As for the Tivo, the listings cost money, they put out great updates and as a company are fighting to make your recorded videos easier to access wherever you want.
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