Re: My opinion? in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r18738084 en Sat, 28 Nov 2009 15:44:25 EDT Sat, 28 Nov 2009 15:44:25 EDT Re: My opinion? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18767128 cwy1980 : If you are so wound up about the way things are here in the States, go somewhere else.

Cheers...
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said by ColorBASIC See Profile :

Is Sen. Turbin has a lot more to worry about in Washington than broadband.

How about the War?
How about excessive spending?
Excessive taxes?
So-So Security?
Iran?
Illegal immigration?
Jobs?
Energy?
Terrorism?
Education?
Inflation?
Housing market?
Crime?
Healthcare?
Tort reform?

The Sen. has far more important issues to deal with.

It's no wonder that Congress' approval ratings are at a record low.
Along with abortion those are issues they usually discuss when they are in the 'kill time' mode. I prefer they discuss something realistic rather than a dog and pony show of which they all know nothing productive will get accomplished.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18748203 Wed, 25 Jul 2007 23:04:45 EDT Re: My opinion? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18747563 Chivalry : Well said, KM. I have to admit that I've never been so ashamed of my government in my entire life.

Eventually, things will look up. We'll be able to put food on our families, human beings and fish kind will be able to coexist peacefully, and we'll finally solve the nation's energy problems by enacting an energy bill that encourages consumption.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18747563 Wed, 25 Jul 2007 21:30:46 EDT Re: My opinion? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18746288 ColorBASIC : Costs too much. And it's not about putting employers in jail...the threat alone will have employers (and others) not wanting to risk it.
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As far as Iraq, I know it's pointless to be realistic with a cheerleader, but it's almost impossible NOT to show some sort of progress in Iraq considering the depths to which our progress has sunk.
Heck, I got an 'D' in high school physics my first semester. But when I got a 'D+' the next semester, I was making actual progress!

I'm sure there are positive things happening in Iraq but I think it's pretty evident and plain, despite blind hope, that our efforts there have been horribly managed and are much closer to 'failure' than 'success'.

Republicans, before their majority was tossed-out (why?), said Americans wanted Social Security reform...but they couldn't get it done. Why not?

Democrats do not have a veto-proof majority, just as the Republicans did not...and again, you know this.

I'm not quite sure why people think there is still any sort of majority support for this administration and it's handling of Iraq. How badly do things have to get before their pure incompetence is understood? *Regardless* of whether it was right or wrong to 'liberate' in the first place, this administration has to be the worst bunch of managers ever.

I agree, Congress should be able to 'de-fund' the war. The President should face reality and work with them before it even comes to that. But politics again trumps actual reason and support of our country and its people.
Rather shameful...just like the posturing and postings in this forums, like yours, that mislead and misconstrue the true issues.
KM
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said by KoolMoe See Profile :

You know very well why - because the Republicans fire-up their excellent PR machine ...
Are you serious? We have one of the best economies ever and actual progress is being made in Iraq, yet we keep hearing we are practically in a depression and Americans are being killed on the streets of Baghdad by the millions.
said by KoolMoe See Profile :

So, yeah, it's ultimately the Democrats lack of cohones for bowing under such political pressure ...
Sure it is. HRH Pelosi keeps reminding us that Congress represents the "will of the people." Surely if so many people want the war de-funded, Congress would have been able to do it, with a veto-proof majority no less.
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A lot. It assumes ALL KIDS learn the same thing. Teachers are stuck teaching to tests instead of educating kids. Standardized tests DO NOT PROVE anything. They can prove a kid can fill in the blank. Most tests do not allow for students to show what they know. Furthermore, every student learns differently and every situation. Not all schools are equal in finances. Have you ever considered that MOST inner city schools have LARGER class sizes, suffer from teacher shortages, and receive less money due to poverty? People in the inner city own houses of less value, which mean less property tax. Hence, take all these factors and combine it with the ONE STANDARD never fits all. You got your answer. I am still waiting how when you got to the doctor, he assigns you a drug without talking to you. You got this illness. X drug works for all. Tough. It's the one size fits all. NEVER WORKS.

2) You can blame lots of other people in addition to the teachers. School choice will allow for the parents who want their children to learn to attend good schools.

School choice DOES NOT work. It's those same parents who want their kids to get a better education but fail to work with them that will be moving. Not to mention, its SOCIALIZATION. Remember Mr. Republican, WHY SHOULD MY TAXES pay for your kid to go elsewhere. NO NO. See, you don't want that now do you? Moving a kid from X city to another means residents in X city are PAYING the cost for YOUR KID to go elsewhere via city tax dollars and government tax dollar subsidies. NOPE dont work. Not to mention, its shifting one problem to another area, but I dont even have to argue that.

3) You do know that phones were not as ubiquitous in 1900 as they are today, right? You also do know that some of the medical treatments that extend life today were also not present in 1900. Of course you did, after all, you speak from experience.

Phones were invented in 1900. However, I AM NOT arguing 911. I am arguing EMERGENCY SERVICES, which are subsidized by the federal government and city dollars. Remove the federal aid, and you are left with ONLY city dollars. If the city runs out of money, YOU DONT get FIRE, EMS, OR POLICE. The minute another city, state, or fed steps in, you are being subsidized. MY ARGUMENT stands. Who cares about phones, I'M arguing access to services... So ya, people in 1900 lived to 47. I guess people in cities that can't afford to fund Emeregency works on CITY DOLLARS only can live to 47 too.....

4) If you really want to debate with me how the lending process works, go learn about it first. My statement is an accurate simplification of how most banks lend money.

I know how loans work. Banks GET their money from customers who have bank accounts, credit cards, and other such entities. The FED INSURES customers money but does not stock banks with unlimited currency. They earn their money, like any other business off customers. NO matter how you look at it, YOU are being subsidized by either the federal government or customers to make purchases YOU CANNOT afford. If you default, the federal government (which is ALL tax payers) SUFFER. Not to mention, you are being given a chance to buy the item in the first place. Captain obvious, WE the people make the fed.... so they print the money, and we in turn put it back into circulation.. SHEESH

5) Article I, Section 8, Clause 3 of the United States Constitution, known as the Commerce Clause, reads as follows:"The Congress shall have Power ...To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes."

Interstate Commerce. OK. So that pertains ONLY to trade. NOT LOCAL food inspections. Food sold within a state would NOT be covered under interstate commerce AS LONG as it didn't leave that state. My point STANDS. The people in ANY GIVEN state should not expect to use the FDA resources if they are a republican. Once again, unless that food is traded, its not INTERSTATE....

Not to mention, you seem to have dropped your argument about the fed subsidizing the Highways in the 1950s...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18744564 Wed, 25 Jul 2007 14:12:48 EDT Re: My opinion? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18743875 KoolMoe : You know very well why - because the Republicans fire-up their excellent PR machine - which the 'liberally-biased' news media parrots - that Democrats are chickening-out, retreating, helping the terrorists, and don't support our troops.

So, yeah, it's ultimately the Democrats lack of cohones for bowing under such political pressure, but it's not like it's as simple as 'just cut off funding' when the opposition effectively demonizes the move politically.
KM
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said by jc100 See Profile :

Funny.. Because before the DOE, schools were funded by the cities on the Prarie. This same money probably had kick backs from the state, but I'm not sure. The reason schools weren't failing back then, THEY WEREN'T Mandatory and they didn't have state testing. State testing is a new thing that uses a STANDARDIZED test to check how all students are doing. Standardized tests are a joke.
What is wrong with testing? How else would we know schools were failing if testing wasn't done? Should we stop testing?
said by jc100 See Profile :

Not to mention, you CAN'T blame teachers that inner cities are failing.
You can blame lots of other people in addition to the teachers. School choice will allow for the parents who want their children to learn to attend good schools.
said by jc100 See Profile :

Have you ever been in the classroom before. NOPE. You speak from ignorance I speak from EXPERIENCE.
I would dare say that yes, I have been in a classroom before.
said by jc100 See Profile :

Nope they DIED... Life expectancy in 1900 was 47 yrs old.
You do know that phones were not as ubiquitous in 1900 as they are today, right? You also do know that some of the medical treatments that extend life today were also not present in 1900. Of course you did, after all, you speak from experience.
said by jc100 See Profile :

Boy you are ignorant. The federal government PRINTS the money.
If you really want to debate with me how the lending process works, go learn about it first. My statement is an accurate simplification of how most banks lend money.
said by jc100 See Profile :

FDA has nothing to do with interstate commerce in a direct sense. IT IS A FEDERAL program setup to check food safety but is not MANDATED.
So you're saying the Feds cannot regulate the safety of food and drugs shipped across state lines? And where do you get off saying the FDA isn't "mandated?"
said by jc100 See Profile :

By the way, Interstate commerce isn't in the Constitution. The ONLY THING the federal government was suppose to do is Defend. Go read it.
Surely you jest.
quote:
Article I, Section 8, Clause 3 of the United States Constitution, known as the Commerce Clause, reads as follows:"The Congress shall have Power ...To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes."

Considering you missed this part of the Constitution, there really isn't much point in replying to the rest of the diarrhea you posted.
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Funny.. Because before the DOE, schools were funded by the cities on the Prarie. This same money probably had kick backs from the state, but I'm not sure. The reason schools weren't failing back then, THEY WEREN'T Mandatory and they didn't have state testing. State testing is a new thing that uses a STANDARDIZED test to check how all students are doing. Standardized tests are a joke. When have you ever gone for medical care and your doctor given you ONE TREATMENT for everything. Standardization doesn't work. Every kid learns different. Not to mention, you CAN'T blame teachers that inner cities are failing. Have you ever been in the classroom before. NOPE. You speak from ignorance I speak from EXPERIENCE. Inner city schools are filled with lots of parents who don't work with their kids and drop them off at school as a babysitting service. A teacher can only do so much with 30 different individuals to control. Obviously, you don't see that. So when these kids misbehave, 29 others have to be ignored to deal with 1 person. Class sizes are larger, behavior is much worse, etc. The list goes on. See ignorance is bliss in your case. It's not the tax teachers failing their kids. It's the parents. Most white districts do not have this same problem. Yet, Bush and his No child left behind seems to think blaming teachers for the failures of society will go far. HAH.

2) People managed to survive prior to 911.

Nope they DIED... Life expectancy in 1900 was 47 yrs old.

3) Wrong. While the Federal Reserve might "create" money that banks ultimately lend, this doesn't come from tax dollars. The borrowers always pay back the costs, with significant interest.

Boy you are ignorant. The federal government PRINTS the money. Yet, it only goes back to banks after it is collected from tax payers in the form of TAX DOLLARS. The federal reserve only prints new money and gives it to the banks AFTER they return money. If the federal government PAID for banks to stay open, NONE would ever go out of business. Hate to break it to you, they rely off customer dollars to stay open. They INVEST your money to maintain profit. If they don't, they have no way to pay their bills. Hence, banks work off customers having accounts and other services. As a result, if it weren't for customers, they WOULDN'T have sufficient funds to LEND others. By borrowing, you are BEING SUBSIDIZED by their customers to buy items you otherwise could not afford... Knowing is HALF the battle

4) FDA has nothing to do with interstate commerce in a direct sense. IT IS A FEDERAL program setup to check food safety but is not MANDATED. There was no FDA int he early 1900s. Funny. Now there is. It's still paid for and SOCIALIZED by tax dollars. No matter how you slice it. By the way, Interstate commerce isn't in the Constitution. The ONLY THING the federal government was suppose to do is Defend. Go read it.

5)Highway money comes from gas taxes. If they were not collected at the Federal level, they'd simply raise those at the state level. I would prefer it that way, as we would actually be paying for roads we drive on instead of bridges to nowhere in Alaska.

HAHAHAHHAHA... Really? So those highways built in the 1950s weren't a federal program. GOD D*MN man you surely have taken the cake on failing American History.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18743455 Wed, 25 Jul 2007 11:05:55 EDT Re: My opinion? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18742741 ColorBASIC : You are typical of why Congress' numbers are lower than the dopey President's and why things will not change. One-issue idiots control both parties.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18742741 Wed, 25 Jul 2007 08:31:49 EDT Re: My opinion? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18742430 pnh102 :
said by ColorBASIC See Profile :

Is Sen. Turbin has a lot more to worry about in Washington than broadband.
Don't tell him that, he might compare you to the Nazis, Stalin and Pol Pot.
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said by Paladin See Profile :

There are plenty of qualified people on both sides of the aisle.
It doesn't work that way. When Bush became president he made the mistake of retaining many people who had been appointed by Clinton. We now have one of the most dysfunctional federal governments in modern history as a result.
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said by Ahrenl See Profile :

Congress's approval ratings are at record lows because they were largely elected to stop a war, that they have no power to stop (short of a double impeachment, that would be completed just before the two clowns leave office anyway).
The Democrat party only won Congress because many idiot "conservatives" decided to stay home during the last election. On the other hand, Democrats always come out to vote in droves because they need all the money the government provides to them.

Congress could stop the war tomorrow if it wanted to. All it needs to do is defund the war. While this might be hard in the Senate, it would be trivially easy to do in the House. If Congress is supposed to end the war, why hasn't the House at least cut off funding for it?
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said by jc100 See Profile :

1) Send their kids to school.
And yet, too many public schools in this country are not making the grade. We are always told they need more money, and we now spend more on education than any other country on this planet, but we don't get anything for it. Oddly enough, this became more of a problem after the Department of Education was instituted at the federal level.
said by jc100 See Profile :

2) Use Emergency services.
People managed to survive prior to 911.
said by jc100 See Profile :

3) Borrow from a bank.
Wrong. While the Federal Reserve might "create" money that banks ultimately lend, this doesn't come from tax dollars. The borrowers always pay back the costs, with significant interest.
said by jc100 See Profile :

4) Eat safe food. ... Once again, has nothing to do with defense.
But it has everything to do with interstate commerce, go figure.
said by jc100 See Profile :

5) Drive on Highways.
Highway money comes from gas taxes. If they were not collected at the Federal level, they'd simply raise those at the state level. I would prefer it that way, as we would actually be paying for roads we drive on instead of bridges to nowhere in Alaska.
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Here's top five things Republicans AREN'T ALLOWED to do because they are SOCIALIST BASED. After all, you don't want to be a "democrat" right and you stand by your principles? That means NO SOCIALIST PROGRAMS AT ALL. Here we go.


1) Send their kids to school. Sorry Bud, federal government socializes local taxes with federal dollars. Educate your offspring at home. Schools are unable to run purely on local dollars. Hence, if your school runs out of money and shuts down, tough. Once again, if your city cannot afford to keep their school open on ONLY city dollars, your kids don't get an education. The minute the Federal Government, state, or another city steps in, you are being SOCIALIZED.

2) Use Emergency services. Sorry, they receive federal dollars and are socialized. Without said money, you wouldnt have first responders. So if you need 911, don't call it. It's only for us liberals. Otherwise, you wouldn't have emergency services without federal subsidies. Once again, if another city steps in to help, those tax payers are SUBSIDIZING / SOCIALIZING your emergency reponse!

3) Borrow from a bank. Why should tax payers socialize your ability to buy things? After all, money from banks come from the federal government which come from taxes. Oops hope you never borrow.

4) Eat safe food. FDA.. Federal Drug Administration. I hope you enjoy tainted food. Food inspection is socialized by tax payer money. Once again, has nothing to do with defense.

5) Drive on Highways. Sorry, Federal dollars subsidized states to build them. Socialized. Drive your car ONLY on city /state roads. Highways are off limits. Also, expect small states to have no highways. After all, since they won't have the money to repair them, you simply wont have a highway to drive on....

I'll take the left any day. At least we have a basic services under the left. Are they perfect. Hell no. They need to fix a LOT wrong with this country. However, the Republicans do nothing but add trillions of deficit while claiming to be fiscally conservative. How is putting us into debt with countries like China / Russia any bit of being conservative financially? Funny.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18741869 Wed, 25 Jul 2007 00:52:08 EDT Re: My opinion? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18741757 Paladin : Simple. Appoint the best people possible and you'll create your allies as you go along. There are plenty of qualified people on both sides of the aisle.

Look at what happens when you appoint people on cronyism though. My home state of Illinois is a prime example of that.
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No one is actually representing normal people who are too busy actually working 'till May to pay their taxes that they can't make the same noise as these MoveOn and Swiftboat dicks.
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They'll go home tomorrow when they have no job, no free money, and no place to live.
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said by ColorBASIC See Profile :

Congress never DOES anything.
The country is by far better off when Congress does nothing. I'll applaud the Democrat party if they accomplish 0 during this session of Congress.
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said by Ahrenl See Profile :

The only thing I heard was some politico speak about amnesty, which refuses to come to grips with the fact that there's no possible way to deport 12,000,000 people, especially when you don't even know where they are.
LOL funny. If this was any other criminal problem, say rampant murder or child abuse, politicians would be having a group orgy to figure out how to solve it. The pols who throw out the "we can't deport them all" tripe are simply saying they are for amnesty without using so many words.

12 million people cannot be deported overnight, but they can be still be deported.
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said by Karl Bode See Profile :

Obviously we're talking a matter of degree....
Well... the only problem with cronyism is that there is a tendency to put people into jobs for which they are not qualified, but if any president (or governor or mayor, etc.) doesn't hire people who are political allies for these jobs, then how would said elected official get his/her agenda implemented?

To put it more simply, here's a quote from "Big" Frank Rizzo, one of the last great mayors of Philadelphia, regarding cronyism:

"Who the hell you want me to give 'em to...my enemies?"
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With so many problems in gov't, the economy and in the world, low latency broadband (since SRS is available to nearly 100% of Americans) is not something Congress should be concerned with.

And the problem is Congress folks spend time holding photo op press conferences on many issues while actually doing NOTHING to solve them and Sen. Turbin is one of those who does this sorta nonsense often.

In the surveys of what is of immediate importance to Americans I never see broadband on this list. What I see is immigration, the ecomony, healthcare.

Congress should spend 100% of its efforts there until they are solved. THEN worry about trivial nonsense like low latency broadband.
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They are already working on the other subjects, by an large. If it's going too slow for you, well, in the government that is called "deliberation" and in business, "due diligence".

And then, of course, there is "obstruction"...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18738621 Tue, 24 Jul 2007 16:35:54 EDT Re: My opinion? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18738575 ColorBASIC :
said by TScheisskopf See Profile :

I agree. How dare he, or anyone, even think of trying to make anything one bit better.
Problem is...all they do is talk.

Congress never DOES anything.

And if they do, there are FAR more important things to do FIRST before low latency broadband.
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The only thing I heard was some politico speak about amnesty, which refuses to come to grips with the fact that there's no possible way to deport 12,000,000 people, especially when you don't even know where they are. If you can't deport them, you can either criminalize them, or legalize them, those are your only two choices. I believe there are ~2,000,000 institutional criminals in the U.S. as of the last census, so that would be increasing that number by 6 TIMES. Considering we can't even issue a passport to a regular citizen within a 3 month window, I think they're here to stay.

The best solution I've heard is to create something like the French Foreign Legion, where you can serve in the army for X number of years (with other immigrants) to gain your citizenship. We have 160,000 troops in Iraq. Imagine if we could send a couple million Legionaries over.. Two problems solved. They'd come back hero's and citizens, with a citizenship they'd have earned. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18737935 Tue, 24 Jul 2007 15:14:56 EDT Re: My opinion? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18737704 pnh102 :
said by Karl Bode See Profile :

If we just focused on purging corruption, cronyism, and influence peddling I'd bet half of your list of problems would begin to fix themselves....
That's like trying to get the oxygen out air and still trying to breathe. Government will never be free of corruption, cronyism (which isn't bad by itself) or influence peddling.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18737704 Tue, 24 Jul 2007 14:39:58 EDT Re: My opinion? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18737611 apollo80 :
said by Ahrenl See Profile :

People (especially those with large amount of staffers) can do more than one (or several) thing(s) at a time.

Congress's approval ratings are at record lows because they were largely elected to stop a war, that they have no power to stop (short of a double impeachment, that would be completed just before the two clowns leave office anyway). Also the majority parties have a smaller margin than ever, so anything remotely partisan (like reversing anything done in the last decade) will be deadlocked.

War? - Executive power
Spending? - Deadlocked
Taxes? - Lowest they've been during war time EVER. so umm.
Security? - Deadlocked
Iran? - Executive power
Immigration? - Deadlocked
Jobs? - 6% used to be considered min unemployment, we're at 4.5%
Energy? - Deadlocked
Terrorism? - See war and security
Education? - Well, they're going to make it more expensive to get a loan through the FFELP program soon.
Inflation? - Except for Food & Energy, at all time lows.
Housing? - Actually things have now been tightened down pretty well thanks to congressional hearing with the federal agencies that had the regulatory power already. That's not going to save all the people that didn't read what they were getting, lied about their income, or where duped by a mortgage broker (who aren't regulated, on a state by state basis); nor should it. Otherwise they'll be rewarding excessive risk taking.
Crime? - National average are still pretty darn low.
Healthcare? - No good solution, yet.
Tort Reform? - Yikes..
To be more specific, the reason immigration is deadlocked is because the general public raised holy you know what over the immigration bill once it was obvious what was in it. All the Democrats need to do to pass that bill is vote as a party in the House and Senate and it passes (Bush said he would sign bill). But the Democrats can't even do that, because they were threatened to be voted out of office (so were Republicans who wanted to vote for it).

This is the first time I can remember ever seeing the public uproar in such masses that senators and congressman/woman backed down, knowing there would be you know what to pay election time.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18737611 Tue, 24 Jul 2007 14:25:14 EDT Re: My opinion? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18737562 Joseph327 :
said by ColorBASIC See Profile :

A national broadband plan is impossible.

They can't even put together an energy plan which is infiniately more important.

They can't get any plan together other than raising their salaries and kissing the ass of Mexico and China. That they can get done.

Any effort that Congress is going to waste should be on something important and in the list of stuff to do...worrying about broadband is at the very bottom.
Exactly !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18737562 Tue, 24 Jul 2007 14:17:35 EDT Re: My opinion? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18737269 satellite68 : How about the War?-endless debates, posturing, and gridlock not enough for you?

How about excessive spending?-so long as their constituents keep getting pork projects, no one will care enough about excessive spending.

Excessive taxes?-huh? ask Canadians or Swedes about excessive taxes.

So-So Security?-I agree with you on this one; the governments' primary mission is to protect our border, which is something they have failed miserably at.

Iran?-at least we're talking to them now. Imagine the Cold War without the behind the scenes diplomacy.

Illegal immigration?-see above on "so so security"

Jobs?-this is a sticky widget; there appears to be lots of work for those who want it-but little long term security, and benefits continue to be a nationwide issue.

Energy?-so long as big Oil is "big Oil", our energy policy will be pretty much the same.

Terrorism?-really, where are the parties responsible for 9-11?

Education?-don't believe the hype, this isn't as bad as the media would portray it. it's bad, but it can be fixed. the choices to do so aren't easy, or cheap-but it can be fixed.

Inflation?-I'm with you on this one. Everyone pretends it doesn't exist, but it surely does.

Housing market?-Perhaps this "market correction" was long overdue.

Crime?-More cops, please.

Healthcare?-Unless "Big Medicine" and "Big Insurance" are removed from the cost structure of this equation, this will continue to be an issue.

Tort reform?-how about "law reform" on pretty much all levels. The whole system appears corrupt, inept, and out of touch with reality.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18737269 Tue, 24 Jul 2007 13:35:17 EDT Re: My opinion? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18737095 Ahrenl : People (especially those with large amount of staffers) can do more than one (or several) thing(s) at a time.

Congress's approval ratings are at record lows because they were largely elected to stop a war, that they have no power to stop (short of a double impeachment, that would be completed just before the two clowns leave office anyway). Also the majority parties have a smaller margin than ever, so anything remotely partisan (like reversing anything done in the last decade) will be deadlocked.

War? - Executive power
Spending? - Deadlocked
Taxes? - Lowest they've been during war time EVER. so umm.
Security? - Deadlocked
Iran? - Executive power
Immigration? - Deadlocked
Jobs? - 6% used to be considered min unemployment, we're at 4.5%
Energy? - Deadlocked
Terrorism? - See war and security
Education? - Well, they're going to make it more expensive to get a loan through the FFELP program soon.
Inflation? - Except for Food & Energy, at all time lows.
Housing? - Actually things have now been tightened down pretty well thanks to congressional hearing with the federal agencies that had the regulatory power already. That's not going to save all the people that didn't read what they were getting, lied about their income, or where duped by a mortgage broker (who aren't regulated, on a state by state basis); nor should it. Otherwise they'll be rewarding excessive risk taking.
Crime? - National average are still pretty darn low.
Healthcare? - No good solution, yet.
Tort Reform? - Yikes.. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18737095 Tue, 24 Jul 2007 13:06:26 EDT Re: My opinion? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18737091 Karl Bode : If we just focused on purging corruption, cronyism, and influence peddling I'd bet half of your list of problems would begin to fix themselves....]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18737091 Tue, 24 Jul 2007 13:05:59 EDT Re: My opinion? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18737041 ColorBASIC : We already know everything we need to know regarding fixing every problem on that list.

Problem is what you say...they're too busy engaging in a pissing contest or taking money from people who don't want these problems solved.
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Macintosh Users Group Serving the Inland Empire]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18737041 Tue, 24 Jul 2007 12:58:12 EDT Re: My opinion? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18736955 Raptor : Well, while some may be a stretch, you could probably make a case for those subjects that national broadband access/reform could improve or allow for the advancement of knowledge and discussion of almost all of those topics.

Knowledge is power, which can be the power to change. And what better fountain of knowledge is there than the net?

A stretch, maybe. But when you're relying on CNN and Fox News to educate your citizens about the above subjects, you can't really expect much reform.

That being said, both Rob See Profile and ColorBASIC See Profile make valid points. You can't count on the Feds anyway, be it this task or another. If it isn't lining someones pockets.... :uhh: Apathy sucks.
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They can't even put together an energy plan which is infinitely more important.

They can't get any plan together other than raising their salaries and kissing the ass of Mexico and China. That they can get done.

Any effort that Congress is going to waste should be on something important and in the list of stuff to do...worrying about broadband is at the very bottom.
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Macintosh Users Group Serving the Inland Empire]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18736924 Tue, 24 Jul 2007 12:38:38 EDT Re: My opinion? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18736899 Rob :
said by ColorBASIC See Profile :

Is Sen. Turbin has a lot more to worry about in Washington than broadband.

How about the War?
How about excessive spending?
Excessive taxes?
So-So Security?
Iran?
Illegal immigration?
Jobs?
Energy?
Terrorism?
Inflation?
Housing market?
Crime?
Healthcare?
Tort reform?

I think the Sen. has enough to do without worrying about broadband.

It's no wonder that Congress' approval ratings are at a record low.
We've been discussing the items you listed for over a decade now, and I predict we'll be discussing them for the next decade to come. Let's focus on something that is possible, like a national broadband plan.
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How about the War?
How about excessive spending?
Excessive taxes?
So-So Security?
Iran?
Illegal immigration?
Jobs?
Energy?
Terrorism?
Education?
Inflation?
Housing market?
Crime?
Healthcare?
Tort reform?

The Sen. has far more important issues to deal with.

It's no wonder that Congress' approval ratings are at a record low.
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