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Richard B
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Re: FCC Majority Behind Open Access

Google simply is trying to rig the Auction. Instead of competing with other companies Google want to jump ahead of the line by running a scam by offering to pay the reserve bid if the FCC agree to their open access rules. These rules are simply design deter the competition mainly the telecoms from bidding against them. Also by taking the auction off the table if any telecoms want to use the spectrum it will be Google's way or the high way.

Google has been playing the net activist like a fiddle with Neutrality and this auction. If Google cannot buy a company, they will buy politicians instead.

There is an ok article by Holman W. Jenkins Jr who edits Political Diary in the WSJ today. Also the Wall Street Journal Opinion Board has been doing a good job of keep up and exposing Google's doings.


morbo
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you are hilarious! insert TELCO in almost every place you have written google and it makes much more sense.


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said by morbo See Profile :

you are hilarious! insert TELCO in almost every place you have written google and it makes much more sense.
I guess you haven't tumbled yet to the fact that Google is a corporation, just like any other, that is in the business of making money for the stockholders. Any altruism that they still cloak themselves in is to fool the sadly deluded people who buy in to their marketing hype as "Google the Good".
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bi0tech

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Who said Google was altruistic?

They just seem to understand you don't have to slap on the cuffs as you bend people over, you can give them a little freedom to choose and still make a killing.

ross

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I'll trust Google before AT&T any day.


Richard B
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Amazing!

If this was AT&T trying to rig the auction you would be screaming but becasue it is Google you are going to give them a pass?



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said by Richard B See Profile :

Amazing!

If this was AT&T trying to rig the auction you would be screaming but becasue it is Google you are going to give them a pass?

Yes, actually. I hate big corporations but Google is one of the few that seems to be doing things right. I'd love to see google get their way with this.
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bi0tech

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reply to Richard B
Out of curiosity, what do you think they are trying to 'rig'?

Competitive access to the infrastructure for various companies?

Yep sounds evil and nefarious to me...
(please ignore this large stack of cash from ILECs/Cable co's)


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Most of us are not deluded by google. We are, however, able to distinguish between those corporate interests and agendas that align with our interests and those that are antithetical to our interests. There would be very few people or companies that would benefit from the telcos hoarding more spectrum. Most businesses, as well as individual citizens, would benefit from a third competitor with different incentives than those of the incumbents. Google grew and learned to thrive in the internet age. They have a different set of incentives than the incumbents who thrived in a radically different world of vertically integrated control over the line as well as the applications.


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said by Richard B See Profile :

Amazing!

If this was AT&T trying to rig the auction you would be screaming but becasue it is Google you are going to give them a pass?
The auction is already rigged for AT&T. Google is trying to UN-RIG it.
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I've known AT&T to be self-serving megalomaniacal monopolists who have leveraged their monopoly, now duopoly, position to the detriment of consumers, shareholders, and the innovations of new technology alike. They are, almost single-handedly, responsible for the sorry state of telecom in the U.S. today. They have lied, cheated and bribed lobbied their way to dominance at the expense, and to the detriment, of the public they were paid to serve. If they weren't already rigging the auction with the complicity of the FCC, Google wouldn't have to publicize the issue.

If Google were trying to rig the auction so that it could lock up the 700MHz spectrum in the way AT&T and Verizon intend to do, I would rail against them as well. I'm tired of seeing the public weal being kicked in the ass by megopolies like AT&T/Verizon with the active assistance of regulatory bodies created to protect the public, but who are increasingly the handmaidens of the industries which they are obliged to regulate.

I don't trust AT&T, period. There is ample historical and contemporary basis for my apprehension. Do you think it was easy to bust Ma Bell into pieces the first time around? Do you think the reasons for doing so were trivial?

You're either very young, or very ignorant, to not have a grasp of the enormity of Ma Bell's transgressions against the citizenry of this country in terms of their business practices, as well as their complicity in the illegal actions taken by the Bush "Justice" Department in spying on all U.S. customers, and users of their networks. While unwarranted, illegal surveillance may not be at issue in terms of the auction, it certainly speaks to the trustworthiness of the entity most likely to warp/distort/nullify the fairness of the auction, and the operational function of the spectrum at issue, in ways solely subservient to their unbounded greed, the public interest be damned.
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