gatorkram
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|  About fedup with TB
Well, it has been an interesting ride, but frankly I am starting to feel like many of the other people on this forum already feel...
I am very surprised at how little even the CEO knows what is going on..
Statements like "we don't have access to the equipment" doesn't mesh with other statements like "we are paying the bills to keep the service up for old SR users"
I am really starting to wonder if any one person with the company, or outsourced, or what-have-you, has any full grasp or picture of just what is going on, and how it is all working. I have a feeling many people right now, with the company, and such, are in this position.
I paid for this month of service, fully expecting at least by now, for everything to be history, and I could get back to just expecting my phone to work.
With the information we are being given, I am not sure I even feel comfortable telling people I know, that it is ok to go back to relying on my SR/TB phone number, and to stop calling my cell.
By Monday, I will be in a position to decide if I am staying or going.
The ball is in your court now TB, good luck.
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burris
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| said by gatorkram  :Well, it has been an interesting ride, but frankly I am starting to feel like many of the other people on this forum already feel... I am very surprised at how little even the CEO knows what is going on.. Statements like "we don't have access to the equipment" doesn't mesh with other statements like "we are paying the bills to keep the service up for old SR users" I am really starting to wonder if any one person with the company, or outsourced, or what-have-you, has any full grasp or picture of just what is going on, and how it is all working. I have a feeling many people right now, with the company, and such, are in this position. I paid for this month of service, fully expecting at least by now, for everything to be history, and I could get back to just expecting my phone to work. With the information we are being given, I am not sure I even feel comfortable telling people I know, that it is ok to go back to relying on my SR/TB phone number, and to stop calling my cell. By Monday, I will be in a position to decide if I am staying or going. The ball is in your court now TB, good luck. Don't underestimate Mr. Fogg....He knows everything that is going on as he is funding it. In fact he's successful enough that he wasn't at all concerned about being embarrased, as he should have been. |
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Graycode
join:2006-04-17 | reply to gatorkram
You should not feel stuck with TB. We have other choices that are much better. Much better deals, much better support, much better companies. Do something else.
Why is it that so many here are fixated on all the issues with TB. |
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gatorkram
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| said by Graycode :You should not feel stuck with TB. We have other choices that are much better. Much better deals, much better support, much better companies. Do something else. Why is it that so many here are fixated on all the issues with TB. My personal answer, was staying with TB required the least amount of effort and work for me. I am sure I am not alone in feeling that way.
I had originally given up on SR, and ordered service from my cable company. When news of TB started to come out, I was happy to cancel that order, and give TB a shot.
As you can tell by my original post in this thread, I am getting to the end of my rope.
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harry K
join:2007-07-19
Baltimore, MD
| After reading all this I agree with you. TB was the easiest and seemingly the fastest way to keep our numbers intact. By Monday, they will have had about 2 weeks to get voice mail and international calls working. That should be enough time even given all going on with I am sure all the legitimate efforts they are trying.
Monday, it is for me too. |
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Graycode
join:2006-04-17
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I know you're frustrated, many of us are. But I think it will be a long time before anyone can truly feel comfortable about TB.
You know we've got active support in our forums from VT and others.
My 2cents, attached image is is another clue. In a forum thread here, N2P is actually trying to port former SR phone# in 24 hours.
We aren't on our own, we aren't stranded, and we definitely owe nothting to TB. |
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gatorkram
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| At this point, come Monday, if TB has failed to live up to what I expect, I really have no idea what I am going to do, as far as service.
Vonage and Viatalk are both on my short list, and packet8 is on there someplace too.
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Graycode
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| My posting of an IM image was moderated because that's not permitted here (though I did ask the originator for prior permission).
Anyway - The point of the moderated portion was that Net2PhoneGuy has joined us to provide any assistance we might need with the Net2Phone service.
(Thanks mods, your vigilance and oversight helps us all!) |
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hmm8
join:2002-05-21
Frisco, TX | reply to gatorkram
Gatorkram, I would advise that you do not sign with either Vonage or Viatalk but rather go with ATT Callvantage. Yes it is more expensive, but you will rest assured that they will not disappear tomorrow.
You get what you pay for... |
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dpete5
join:2007-07-25
Salt Lake City, UT
| Well I transfered over to TB and I'm surprised by the sound quality I'm getting compared to SR's of last months. It takes time to get 200,000 people transfered over I'll give it a month or two but I've had SR for 3 years and they kept re-newing me at the $99.00 a year deal and I was on my last month so I'm not out much but let's see if TB will keep there word because they said they will honor 1 year for me at 12.95 + the taxes of $2.85 when I signed up over the phone (45 minute wait) I never lost service here is Salt Lake City but I've noticed a difference ( with Sunrocket when I pushed talk on the phone it would click 3 times then go to dial tone now it's just straight to dial tone and when I dial out with TB it's faster then SR??) I've lost my Signature # but I never used it so that's no big deal...Just did'nt want to lose my main # after 3 years and I moved from Packet 8 to SR due to sound quality and I do like TB's so far?? |
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dmolavi
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said by burris :Don't underestimate Mr. Fogg....He knows everything that is going on as he is funding it. In fact he's successful enough that he wasn't at all concerned about being embarrased, as he should have been. i'm not underestimating him. he's as dishonest and two-faced as lisa hook. i don't trust a word that comes out of his, or lisa bickford's, mouth. all of the contradicting statements point to the fact that they know what's going on in terms of locking gizmos, and are just trying to dodge the question. i'm tempted to plug in my spare (which is still set up for SR) and sniff the line to see if the password is sent in the clear.
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burris
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| said by dmolavi :said by burris :Don't underestimate Mr. Fogg....He knows everything that is going on as he is funding it. In fact he's successful enough that he wasn't at all concerned about being embarrased, as he should have been. i'm not underestimating him. he's as dishonest and two-faced as lisa hook. i don't trust a word that comes out of his, or lisa bickford's, mouth. all of the contradicting statements point to the fact that they know what's going on in terms of locking gizmos, and are just trying to dodge the question. i'm tempted to plug in my spare (which is still set up for SR) and sniff the line to see if the password is sent in the clear. I think Fogg and his company are doing enough sniffing as it is. 
Consider the BS he gave us today.. |
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dmolavi
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| said by burris :I think Fogg and his company are doing enough sniffing as it is. Consider the BS he gave us today.. must be nice to be CEO of a company and never have to face your customers.  
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undef
join:2007-07-24
Schenectady, NY | reply to dmolavi
If you have a spare, don't plug it in to a live internet connection. Follow any of the numerous posts or guides to unlock it and disable provisioning if you ever want to use it for something other than TeleBlend. |
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sandwidth
join:2004-10-22
Ontario, CA | reply to dmolavi
Well, you COULD always buy a plane ticket! |
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dmolavi
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said by undef :If you have a spare, don't plug it in to a live internet connection. Follow any of the numerous posts or guides to unlock it and disable provisioning if you ever want to use it for something other than TeleBlend. that's ok, it's an AC-211, and i've got the crack programs to fetch the passwords. the idea is to just plug in the AC-211 and my computer into a hub, fire up wireshark, and power up the AC-211. and if they are changing the passwords, hopefully it'll be in the clear (hell, they didn't do anything else right)...
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Exothermicus
join:2007-05-24
Denton, TX
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So has anybody that has been Blended, actually sniffed the traffic to their Gizmo to see what IP address TB is using, thus far it seems that people who switched to TB are still getting the same level of service that people who have done nothing are getting. Is TB still using the same block of IP addresses that SunRocket was using? Have they actually reprovisioned your Gizmo? Do your calls still show in your SunRocket member portal?
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dmolavi
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said by sandwidth :Well, you COULD always buy a plane ticket! haha..i could, in fact, i'm gonna be up that way in a few weeks anyway... |
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Gizmo Pwned
join:2007-07-25
1 edit | I was just as underwhelmed as everybody else with Mr. Fogg's almost scripted performance. I don't know who he thinks he's kidding about not having access to the Gizmos. Anyway, it's all been said to death, but I just found this statement on Nuvio's Website:
"Note: If you have a Linksys SPA-2102, please try to unlock the device using these instructions before signing up for Nuvio service. A small number of customers are reporting difficulty unlocking the Linksys SPA-2102. This is likely due to TeleBlend, in a effort to retain a portion of the SunRocket Customer base having likely reconfigured passwords on the Linksys SPA-2102. Nuvio is currently working on a solution for this issue. Please check this page for updates."
It is interesting to see another VOIP provider weighing in on the debate. While their language is carefully chosen as to not directly implicate TB of any wrong doing, the inference is there. I wonder what Mr. Fogg thinks about the Nuvio statement? |
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gatorkram
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Doing some more research here, Vonage says it can't port my number, and they don't offer local numbers in my area, so that one is out...
Went to the viatalk site, and it seems to no longer have any special deals for us SR folks...
So it looks like my top two picks are a no go....
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