Comcast: 3 Million VoIP Customers in 2 Years > That sure is a purty pie chart

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Re: That sure is a purty pie chart

I would rather have the right package and be misled by good speed tests personally.
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My rebuttal is that you take what I'm saying too literally.

Obviously, the company will still be around in some form or the other in a few years time.

I mean..AOL is too, aren't they?

What will they be though? I think a drastically different company if they continue to lose their landline customers like this and pursue what I think anyway..is a completely failed uverse strategy.

Cod, the bandwidth demands that consumers will put on the internet and their isp's over the next few years is going to be incredible. Video, and particularly hdtv..is going to insure that. Customers won't be waiting by their mailboxes for their nextflix mail to arrive. They'll click a button to get it downloaded to them. It's already happening.
I predict the whole DVD industry will undergo a radical change..and so much will shift towards downloading instead.
This will call for HUGE amounts of bandwidth. Comcasts CEO said it best when he said..we'll just give it to them and let them figure out how to use it.

Cod, when all this is in place...where will that leave DSL?
Uverse? Even current cable customers will demand more speeds. These are some really big files we're talking about.
Cable co's...have docsis 3.0. Verizon..has fios.

What exactly does at&t have?

Again, I think you and others need to ask yourselves..with landlines being undercut the way they are by the voip industry..and all this happening with bandwidth demands going ahead..where does this leave AT&T?
I think that unless they change, it's going to be one drastically downsized company. I'm sorry to have to say that. They will have their product niches..but it's really going to be a new world for them.

A pretty nuked out world I think. Unless they change..right now.

FTTH. They must do this.
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Again I would rather have the right package then some bursts it gives the wrong idea about the service.
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I'm not sure I'd call 40.7Mb into a 64Mb file..and still transferring at 2.26MB/sec..

a burst.

Instead..I'd call my 20,000k + service..comcastic.
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Thats the beauty of competition, Rick. Customers are free to switch between DSL & cable.

AT&T continues to add thousands of new DSL customers every month. While I applaud your speed burst technology of Comcast, the reality of it is outside the techies of DSLreports.com, most average consumers don't need nor want that kind of speed at this point in time. I'd love to see what some prime time speed burst speeds are and not just yours but a sampling of many communities. I am quite sure that its maybe half of what you get when the cable nodes are at peak traffic & in many conditions slower than the base package speed when oversubscribed & overloaded.

Tons of people are absolutely satisfied with their 3.0 & 6.0mb packages (and different regions of AT&T sync differently. Legacy BellSouth territory uses a max sync profile which allows customers to actually achieve faster speeds than they signed up for ie. 6.0 customers regularly get 6.3-6.5 speeds on tests).

You envision a future where faster speeds will be needed and I agree. We all know your rants on the "ugly" VRADS AT&T is placing all over the country. Get used to it, they aren't going anywhere...Actually they are getting smaller...

They are there to primarily extend the local loop closer to the house. In saying that, upcoming VDSL2 speeds are close to 100mb. You can go to the Uverse forums and see people syncing close to that right now. That can easily be reallocated to hypothetically give customers in the future 25mb internet speeds and leave the rest for VOIP, simultaneous HDTV streams and SDTV.

Also, new subdivisions are getting FTTH right now. Were you aware of this?

Lets say in 5 years AT&T decides that it is economically feasible to start wiring existing homes with fiber directly. Well, all of those new VRADS already have new fiber to them and also the existing thousands of miles of fiber on the existing FTTC pedestals already in front of millions of houses makes upgrading not such a daunting task as one would seem.

I know we butt heads all of the time but its because you are so narrow minded & only take a one sided, comcastic approach. You fail to see that its not the end of the world or end of the company if AT&T doesn't do FTTH "now".

PS- I take your saying AT&T isn't going to exist literally because you say it every week around here!!! Are you trying to insinuate that you are typing that just for kicks and you really don't mean it?

Bottom line- the loss of landline service is easily being supplimented with large additions of wireless customers, DSL additions and the ever growing uverse additions. The market is large enough to where everyone will enjoy a piece of the pie.

Personally, I don't care if its Cable/Comcast or VDSL/AT&T.

Whoever sells me the product 'I' want at the price 'I' want to pay is going to get my business.

I CURRENTLY do not need faster than 3Mbps right now. Sure, I'll take 30Mbps, hell, I'll take 45Mbps or better. I'm not going to pay $50 for it though.
Most of my neighbors are on AT&T 1.5Mbps DSL.
Why - because its ~$20/month.
Most don't see paying +$45/month for 'standard' HSI. The ones with high school kids might because of online gaming.

My 2cents:
Comcast VoIP is a 'natural' transition from POTS/LD for those using Cable/HSI. One bill, one source, local support (HSI/Cable/VoIP), and SIMILAR pricing to POTS. I expect Comcast to charge as much as they can get away with.
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Wow...where should I start? How about right here with this comment of yours.

"We all know your rants on the "ugly" VRADS AT&T is placing all over the country. Get used to it, they aren't going anywhere."

Exactly the kind of self serving, condescending...get used to it because it's our way or no way that I've come to expect from some of the AT&T fanboys. And, from the company itself. This is the company after all that seems to love to fight with various communities to get whatever it wants..while disregarding the will of the communities.

Well, get used to the fact that so few are taking this Uverse service as it now appears to be the laughing stock of the industry. 51,000 customers nationwide after all this time.
What a COMPLETE DISASTER IT IS.

Hang all the vrads you want. I predict that they'll make great scrap metal as they're torn down in the future.

What you seem to FORGET is it's not me that makes a difference. It's the CUSTOMERS..or lack thereof..that are now speaking. I appear to simply be the mouthpiece here for what many are thinking.

"Insert everything else you've said".

You know, if there's anything we can count on..it's all the promises coming from your camp. All the maybes..wait and see's..it'll be here..someday.

I call that VAPORWARE.

I call that..you don't have it today..and you wish you did.
And until you get it..you'll just keep on talking about all the ..."wait and see's. It will be here soon".

Well, guess what? I've called your bluff from day one.
And would say that EVERYTHING i've predicted has now become reality.

But hey..maybe someday you will have it. At that point..when REALITY strikes..i'll be glad to change my tune.

But, I think the ONLY way you'll get there is by going with FTTH.
The ONLY WAY.

"PS- I take your saying AT&T isn't going to exist literally because you say it every week around here!!! Are you trying to insinuate that you are typing that just for kicks and you really don't mean it?"

There are plenty of ways to exist..or not exist in business.
And obviously, even as bad as it might get if they don't change their ways..the company could go on existing in SOME FORM OR FASHION. They do..after all..have SOME strengths which I have acknowledged.

That doesn't make them a competitor however. It would make them just some other company that's out there..struggling to make it.

Tell me, what would an AT&T look like that completely loses it's dominance in broadband? In landlines?

A pretty small..and sorry AT&T.

You know, while you and others seem to love to attack ME..as a person and poster..attempting to discredit me..I think that's the REAL sign of how weak you really view this service you so seem to love really is. Because I feel this way.."I MUST be a comcast employee"..according to you.
Well, guess what? I'm not. I have no affiliation with them whatsoever..except as a now very satisfied customer.

The problem is...what you and others refuse to accept is that it is now me..a POTENTIAL AT&T customer..that is speaking out..and telling YOU..what is wrong with your service and company.

You know what? If it was ME..and my company..I'd be listening...REAL GOOD.

Because again..customers ARE now telling you what I'm saying here. Or, your service would be a hit...something that everyone wanted and was looking forward to.

You know..like Verizons fios service.

Really..when it comes down to it..arguing with me isn't going to make it better.

If I was you..i'd be spending more time in fixing it..and making it better.

Just my .02 cents worth.
As a NON..AT&T customer.

It's up to you to change that.

Not me.

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5:28 am 4 days ago huh, had to wait till no one else was on the node??

reply to MadMANN
No but the point is the average person has no idea what their real download speed is they will believe that when they are getting less that its slowing down.
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