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Maxxxt
Peculiar Mental Twist
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join:2001-06-12
Denver, CO

Smells fishy

I thought those expensive generators click on instantly after loosing power? Someone screwed up big time. Maybe a disgruntled employee with a sense of humor?

Also, why would big web dependent..(I mean they exist only on the web)..not have back up data center for backups and alternate web servers? Different geographic servers would be a must especially having mains in San Francisco which will likely slip into the ocean in the next decade or at least have a few disruptive quakes.

Maxxx
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Jahntassa
What, I can have feathers
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join:2006-04-14
Conway, SC
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Re: Smells fishy

According to their status page's latest update, they have 10 generators. Three of them failed, which caused a fourth to fail.

Generators 1 and 3 both shutdown on startup because they detected a problem, but they don't know what the problem is.

The first backup shutdown on startup as well.

The second backup then had to cover for the first, which overloaded and also shutdown.
dlindsay17

join:2002-07-10
Los Angeles, CA

Re: Smells fishy

Makes me wonder when a backup generator HAS kicked in and 'saved the day' -- I'm always reading about them failing when they're needed.

TopicBias

@rcn.com

Re: Smells fishy

Good intellectual discussion doesn't happen on these forums unfortunately.
smcallah

join:2004-08-05
Home
Generators are working all the time when power utilities lose power during storms, snow, etc.

Obviously you're not going to hear about when they work, because it's not newsworthy for someone to say, "The datacenter was running as normal during a power outage."

Especially when this is common.

It's is the failures that are not common, and are newsworthy, because there is something adversely affected.
dlindsay17

join:2002-07-10
Los Angeles, CA

Re: Smells fishy

Their PR people should look into touting that kind of stuff more often

morbo
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join:2002-01-22
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kind like the local news doesn't report "no one was killed today"
bbtech6650
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join:2004-10-28
Pittsburgh, PA

Re: Smells fishy

sometimes that is newsworthy... just ask Philadelphia...
ElJay

join:2004-03-17

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I guess it sounds like they need a few large generators instead of ten "smaller" generators? I hope these same idiots haven't done any backup power planning for hospitals or prisons.
ajanis

join:2004-10-19
Oswego, IL
The FAQ on the 365Main site seem to indicate that there was a SURGE, not a loss.

Maybe some of the generator control systems were damaged by the SURGE.

If a transformer failed (as seems to be the case), and it was a down stepping transformer...it would be possible for an over voltage to occur as windings in the transformer melted together.

This surge was very likely followed by an outage. Maybe they were unable to recover from the outage because of damage caused by the surge that proceeded it?!

KrK
Heavy Artillery For The Little Guy
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join:2000-01-17
Tulsa, OK

Re: Smells fishy

Wouldn't it be prudent for a datacenter to have the best surge suppression/protection available?

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