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pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
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join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD

Probably Unlawful

Most companies stuff these provisions into their service agreements. However, many get overturned by the courts.
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Only SHATNER is Kirk.


PhoenixDown
-- Wants FIOS
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join:2003-06-08
Fresh Meadows, NY
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They still need to show up at small claims court to dismiss it...



swhx7
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join:2006-07-23
Elbonia

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It is becoming more prevalent. For example, it's practically impossible to get a credit card now without forced arbitration replacing access to the courts.

It seems inevitable that once businesses start catching on to this concept, every individual will have to give up access to the courts as a condition of every consumer contract. You can always decline the contracts, but you will have to end up living like a primitive hermit (like Kaczynski in the woods) to maintain your basic Constitutional rights.

I have no confidence in your assessment that "many get overturned by the courts". There have been a few cases where the consumer did not have an opportunity to opt out, or the clause was extraordinarily over-reaching, but I think most are routinely upheld.


Desdinova
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join:2003-01-26
Gaithersburg, MD

"...like Kaczynski in the woods..."

I dunno, seems to me Ted found some VERY effective ways of communicating his own customer service needs...


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