Re: Is there any doubt that.... in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r18772085 en Wed, 11 Nov 2009 02:12:18 EDT Wed, 11 Nov 2009 02:12:18 EDT Re: Is there any doubt that.... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18783333 pnh102 :
said by FiL See Profile :

It's very obvious you don't believe the crap you post, your just playing a side...
If I am just "playing a side" then why not refute what I am saying? Surely it should be easy if I am just "playing a side."
said by FiL See Profile :

I don't see a Union at all these days...Club Gitmo, lol. This kind of talk lends itself to either A- people that haven't been in any kind of detention facility or, mostly likely, B- people who THINK they know what its like in a detention facility...
When we have terrorists that are fighting their deportation from Club Gitmo, for fear they might be tortured in their home countries (link in my other posts), it really takes the hot air out of the argument that we're torturing these terrorists.
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I don't see a Union at all these days...Club Gitmo, lol. This kind of talk lends itself to either A- people that haven't been in any kind of detention facility or, mostly likely, B- people who THINK they know what its like in a detention facility...primary factor missing is the actual experience. And no PNH, TV can't provide you with the experience...lol.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18781974 Tue, 31 Jul 2007 11:36:12 EDT Re: Is there any doubt that.... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18778888 Combat Chuck :
said by King Duck See Profile :

Hmmm Isn't one of the right's (new) justifications for the war to bring US-style democracy, including bill of rights, to other countries?
And yet, the right chooses to selectively decide who gets to benefit from those rights?
A tad inconsistent perhaps?
1. I never said the war was to bring a democracy to anyone.

2. It's hard to allow someone to exercise their rights while simultaneously protecting the rights of others when that someone values nothing in life but death and destruction.

3. Your rights cease to matter when you lack the ability to defend them. (don't read that as directed at the prisoners in GB.)

You want to see rights disappear? Wait till radical Islam starts focusing on terror against children. What do you think a successful coordinated effort to simultaneously take over multiple schools, possibly massacring thousands of children would do to the GB prisoners rights? Kinda like worrying about the faded upholstery in your car as your barrelling head on into a semi.
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Mooooooo!!!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18778888 Mon, 30 Jul 2007 21:29:59 EDT Re: Is there any doubt that.... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18775433 King Duck : Hmmm Isn't one of the right's (new) justifications for the war to bring US-style democracy, including bill of rights, to other countries?
And yet, the right chooses to selectively decide who gets to benefit from those rights?
A tad inconsistent perhaps?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18775433 Mon, 30 Jul 2007 12:48:23 EDT Re: Is there any doubt that.... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18774370 nasadude :
said by WileEC See Profile :

Well that's funny because this article says that I'm correct: »www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co···654.html
hahahahahahahaha

you're pointing to a major newspaper as a source of accurate information - boy, talk about being out of it - the MSM ceased to be a reliable source of information some time ago.

I read that article and I suspect the person that wrote it barely knows what they are talking about.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18774370 Mon, 30 Jul 2007 09:32:58 EDT Re: Is there any doubt that.... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18774263 TechieZero : I would not worry about it. Durbin and his ilk have been next to useless and promise to be even more so in order to maintain their 14% approval rating.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18774263 Mon, 30 Jul 2007 09:12:06 EDT Re: Is there any doubt that.... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18773099 Combat Chuck :
said by TScheisskopf See Profile :

I don't know about you, but I kinda like that bit in The Bill of Rights of The United States of America that says "innocent until proven guilty".
As was stated not so nicely the bill of rights only applies to citizens.

The problem is what do you do with a group of people who do not value their own lives beyond their ability to bring as much death and destruction as possible to modern society and are willing to do whatever (including bending the rules of the religion they claim to follow) to do so? We've never faced this before, mainly because in previous wars no one worried much about making sure civilians weren't inconvenienced.

But certainly whatever they face in GB is no where near what was dealt in any Nazi death camp (and to imply so shows a great deal of disrespect to those who lived thru them); Mr. Durban knows this, his statements on the issue are nothing more than spin; much like his little forum is spin to make the internet petition crowd feel better about him.
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said by TScheisskopf See Profile :

And THAT was what Sen. Durbin was getting at.
Then why was he lying? Club Gitmo can't be that bad if the guests there get free healthcare, free religious guidance, 3 square meals, and live in an area that has nice weather all year round. It also can't be that bad if the guests are putting on weight and fighting attempts to deport them back to their home countries. These do not strike me as things that the Nazis, the Soviets or Pol Pot would do to their prisoners.

Surely if he was speaking the truth, he would not have apologized.
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said by WileEC See Profile :

...and he's a traitor.
newsflash! it's no longer september 12, 2001. throwing the traitor label around has become an empty insult, used only on fox "news" and ilk.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18772366 Sun, 29 Jul 2007 22:07:20 EDT Re: Is there any doubt that.... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18772340 TScheisskopf : But we aren't "foreign countries". We are the USA and we are supposed to be better than that. When we aren't, it puts the lie to everything we say we stand for and we say we are trying to propagate.

And THAT was what Sen. Durbin was getting at.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18772340 Sun, 29 Jul 2007 22:01:35 EDT Re: Is there any doubt that.... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18772310 pnh102 :
said by TScheisskopf See Profile :

Here. Pick any one on the list, or all of them. Surely one of them, or the shear number of them from respected sources might filter in somehow.
Please. Playing loud rap music and turning the AC on and off doesn't constitute torture. High school sports teams' hazing rituals are worse than this.

Go take a look at how some prisons in foreign countries are run and then get back to me. You can start by looking at how the Cuban government treats librarians who are not fond of Fidel Castro. Club Gitmo guests have five star accommodations compared to them.
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Here. Pick any one on the list, or all of them. Surely one of them, or the shear number of them from respected sources might filter in somehow.

Trust me, it ain't good to live your life in denial. It never turns out well.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18772259 Sun, 29 Jul 2007 21:50:07 EDT Re: Is there any doubt that.... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18772135 pnh102 : Yawn... 60 Minutes has a penchant for simply making up news, even going so far as to draft fake "evidence" to back up the allegation. Aside that they are also on the side of our enemy and want us to lose the war, I really would not take any of their propaganda as fact.
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»www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/04/···02.shtml]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18772097 Sun, 29 Jul 2007 21:18:08 EDT Re: Is there any doubt that.... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18772085 danielhays : major marco,

well, i guess he told you]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18772085 Sun, 29 Jul 2007 21:15:03 EDT Re: Is there any doubt that.... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18772076 pnh102 :
said by TScheisskopf See Profile :

There's some info on deaths and attempted suicides at GTMO.
That's a good start. It is too bad the rest of the detainees don't follow suit. It would save us money. The only problem is that the average Club Gitmo detainee has not only the best medical care in the world, but is also packing on the pounds.
said by TScheisskopf See Profile :
I suspect you wouldn't know a traitor if one crawled up and bit you in the gluteal protruberance.
One of the definitions of traitor as codified in the Constitution is a person who provides aid and comfort to the enemy. The video I posted clearly shows Sen. Turbin spreading lies about Club Gitmo during a time of war. The Constitution requires at least 2 witnesses to the crime for the charge to stick. I am sure more than 2 people watched that broadcast.

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I think I will forego the myriad insults that are running around my brain right now. You are far too much simpleton to even grasp them.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18771963 Sun, 29 Jul 2007 20:52:53 EDT Re: Is there any doubt that.... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18771920 matrix3D : The Bill of Rights and our Constitution only apply to United States citizens: not to illegal immigrants and scumbag, camel-humping terrorists like your kind want to believe.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18771920 Sun, 29 Jul 2007 20:44:45 EDT Re: Is there any doubt that.... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18771904 TScheisskopf : Name one, just one, held there that has been convicted of what you accuse, in either a court of law or military tribunal.

I don't know about you, but I kinda like that bit in The Bill of Rights of The United States of America that says "innocent until proven guilty". It tends to keep things on an even keel.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18771904 Sun, 29 Jul 2007 20:41:47 EDT Re: Is there any doubt that.... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18771801 Combat Chuck :
said by TScheisskopf See Profile :

How intellectually bankrupt.
Intellectually bankrupt?
Would that also be what it's called when you insinuate that the only reason individuals belonging to an organization that employs suicide bombings would commit mass suicide would be desperation in abhorrent conditions and not because, as a pr stunt, it furthers their insane ideology, particularly considering that they've been neutralized as operatives and it's about the only thing left they can do to get a rise out of people.
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There's some info on deaths and attempted suicides at GTMO.

Here's a story about one who spent some time there:

»observer.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/···,00.html

Feel free to make bleatings about "freedom and justice".

As far as Sen. Durbin being a traitor, I suspect you wouldn't know a traitor if one crawled up and bit you in the gluteal protruberance.

And apparently, you didn't bother to read the article, instead choosing to smear and regurgitate frothing right-wing nostrums. How utterly sad. How intellectually bankrupt.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18771545 Sun, 29 Jul 2007 19:31:16 EDT Re: Is there any doubt that.... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18771082 pnh102 :
said by WileEC See Profile :

Well that's funny because this article says that I'm correct: »www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co···654.html
I had to do a bit of fact checking because you cited the Washington Compost... but it looks like you're good!
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said by major marco See Profile :

Uh yeah...you obviously have no clue as to what you're even talking about.
Uhh? :mad:

»www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7FaSEQ-fKc

Interestingly enough, an Algeria terrorist who is currently a guest at Club Gitmo is fighting extradition to Algeria because he fears being tortured.

»www.signonsandiego.com/news/worl···ria.html
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said by WileEC See Profile :

said by major marco See Profile :

Uh yeah...you obviously have no clue as to what you're even talking about. Move along now...I think the next Crush Lardbaugh/Hand Jobbity show is about to start and you'll need your talking points for the next discussion. :uhh:
Oh really?

Well that's funny because this article says that I'm correct: »www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co···654.html

I guess that the Washington Times must be wrong and that none of that happened. Yes major marco, you are so obviously correct. Just like most other liberals. /sarcasm off

major marco /pwned :o
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said by major marco See Profile :

Uh yeah...you obviously have no clue as to what you're even talking about. Move along now...I think the next Crush Lardbaugh/Hand Jobbity show is about to start and you'll need your talking points for the next discussion. :uhh:
Oh really?

Well that's funny because this article says that I'm correct: »www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co···654.html

I guess that the Washington Post must be wrong and that none of that happened. Yes major marco, you are so obviously correct. Just like most other liberals. /sarcasm off

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said by WileEC See Profile :

This is the same senator that in 2005, compared the prison at Guantanamo Bay to a nazi death camp. I guess you're right, he's not idiotic or out of touch. He's a an idiot, he's out of touch and he's a traitor. Thanks for the correction.

Uh yeah...you obviously have no clue as to what you're even talking about. Move along now...I think the next Crush Lardbaugh/Hand Jobbity show is about to start and you'll need your talking points for the next discussion. :uhh:
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said by major marco See Profile :

Self-serving perhaps, but Durbin is neither idiotic nor out of touch. That would be Ted Tubes Stevens you're thinking of.
Oh really? Durbin is the same senator that in 2005, compared the US military prison at Guantanamo Bay to a nazi death camp. I guess you're right, he's not idiotic or out of touch. He's a an idiot, he's out of touch and he's a traitor. Thanks for the correction.

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