Re: Broadband costs in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r18775207 en Sat, 28 Nov 2009 01:46:41 EDT Sat, 28 Nov 2009 01:46:41 EDT Re: Broadband costs http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18788258 tamovies :
I pay $7.75]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18788258 Wed, 01 Aug 2007 09:00:27 EDT Re: Broadband costs http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18784901 KrK :
said by en102 See Profile :

This is similar to AT&T charging $5/month for caller ID.
I think it's more like $8.50 or $9.00]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18784901 Tue, 31 Jul 2007 18:48:56 EDT Re: SMS, number port fee, etc, all cash cows http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18777563 ColorBASIC : Nice to know that .30/message is well earned by AT&T. :uhh:]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18777563 Mon, 30 Jul 2007 18:04:52 EDT Re: SMS, number port fee, etc, all cash cows http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18777534 macmouse : yeah. that is why you can send/recieve a text message when the system is overloaded (and all of voice channels are in use).

For that matter, It costs them (the company) /more/ to handle voice (or even inet) connections from a technical standpoint. and yet you pay *extra* for it in the US (vs free in europe, japan,etc). I can't come up with any logical reasons on why they are doing it this way...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18777534 Mon, 30 Jul 2007 17:58:24 EDT Re: SMS, number port fee, etc, all cash cows http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18777443 ColorBASIC : Holy smokes...so it's just 'free money' to the provider.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18777443 Mon, 30 Jul 2007 17:46:40 EDT Re: SMS, number port fee, etc, all cash cows http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18777409 macmouse : the reason there is the 160 character limit for SMS (over CDMA network - it is like 140 with GSM) is because that is the size of the data payload for a /single/ data frame for the protocol.

every second or so (whatever the timing is), your cell phone sends a "im still here" signal, which is a standard packet with the appropiate headers with a empty payload. So, when you send a SMS, data is entered into that status update packet that is routinely sent out (and why there is a slight delay before it is sent out, because it is waiting for its turn).

Thus, in effect it costs the company nothing in airtime cost because that air time would be intentionally left empty anyway (and a tiny fraction of a cent in data network costs).]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18777409 Mon, 30 Jul 2007 17:40:42 EDT Re: SMS, number port fee, etc, all cash cows http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18775760 Anonuser : Interesting. I have following for $30/month.
500 anytime
unlimited nights and weekends at 7pm
unlimited pcs powervision+picture mail
unlimited roaming
unlimited texting in and out (non international)
unlimited sprint to sprint.

Got the above, no harassing retentions. I called up to renew my SERO contract, and the lady said, as long as I was on the phone, would I like unlimited text messaging and nights starting at 7 for no additional charge? I of course said yes :)
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This is similar to AT&T charging $5/month for caller ID.
EXACTLY! I have an unlimited data plan. Texting is crude joke compared to the phone's data capabilities. Getting charged for INCOMING texts is insulting / double dipping.

Competition seems to be slowly working to improve the situation, though. An extra $5/month now gets me unlimited M2M texts (over the 200 included with the $19.95 data/text plan). It's still highway robbery for what it is, but at least I don't have to cringe when I get an incoming spam text.
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said by ColorBASIC See Profile :

Yeah, and they're charging up to .30 per message. You want to claim that SMS isn't high margin?
Yes, it is high. Don't like the price, then don't use it. I have SMS blocked on my cellphone inbound and outbound.
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On another note: I USED to have SMS/MMS when I was with the original AT&T Wireless - they offered unlimited FREE inbound messaging (SMS/MMS/txt email). I somehow don't think that the cost of this service has increased.

This is similar to AT&T charging $5/month for caller ID.
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said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

And the method of calculating cost by "Mobile Jones" is, as usual, bogus. The cost to the cell provider isn't on how many bytes are transmitted. The cost is based on use of a channel(from a limited number of channels) on the cell tower and how long it takes to grab the wireless spectrum, establish the connection, and then transmit, and then take down the connection. Every time someone sends a 20 byte message, all those costs are incurred and they far exceed the costs of some theoretical bandwidth usage. And then every time a new message is sent(20 secs later for example), the whole process starts all over again.
My my my! So costly! It's a downright miracle that people can make telephone calls with their cell phones!

practically instantaneous sending of a 20Byte message takes mere seconds, and doesn't hog the channel like talking does, yet talking on a cell phone is now bargain-bin stuff.

hrrrmmm....
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