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acvthree

@verizon.net
reply to JeepMatt
Re: CableCard TiVoHD install

Or just use an HDMI switch if your TV only has a single HDMI input.

Or use an upconverting receiver and put everything through a single HDMI link to the TV.

Lots of options.

Al


Shaggy2002

join:2003-01-28
Denton, TX
I got the 4 port HDMI Switch from monoprice and works great with my 6416 and PS3.


NOCMan
Verizon Fios User
Premium
join:2004-09-30
Flower Mound, TX
reply to Hooper
The new motorola Q now has BREW..

Hooper
Premium
join:2001-10-22
Villanova, PA

said by NOCMan See Profile :

The new motorola Q now has BREW..
Not that I don't believe you, but where did you see this?

Killthee

join:2002-09-09
Los Angeles, CA

reply to harley3k
said by harley3k See Profile :

I have to say that after a few days with the TivoHD, I am ready to get a second one for the bedroom.

I was planning to wait until they got the Multi-Room-Viewing working (slated for later this year and possilby not including HD content), but I don't think I can wait now. I am addicted once again.

-h
MRV,TTG, and TTCB are slated to be released this November (HD content will work).

»www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/sh···=1&pp=30

KenAF

join:2006-01-23
Arlington, VA
Awesome!

knarf829

join:2007-06-02

reply to Killthee
said by Killthee See Profile :

MRV,TTG, and TTCB are slated to be released this November (HD content will work).

»www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/sh···=1&pp=30
And now...there is absolutely no reason to resist.

On my Series2 I almost never used TTG (TiVo--->PC), but with the recent network MO of canceling series I'm interested in and putting the remaining episodes on the web, TTCB (PC--->TiVo) is very useful. People a lot more technically proficient than me almost always wind up making an MPEG or AVI convert of those web episodes available.

BTDT

join:2006-01-25
Flower Mound, TX

With these features enabled it removes nearly all of the functionality gains I would envision using off of an HTPC (basically will just not be able to access internet streaming media -- other than something like Amazon Unbox that is supported directly). Plus the pricetag is a lot more palatable, and reported reliability (TiVo vs. HTPC) is likewise a plus.

In other news, tivocommunity is reporting that the eSATA port on the TiVo HD has been enabled with the latest software release, but there is still not an easy method for actually adding an external drive (you can do your own drive imaging, requiring removing the internal drive, etc.). Given that TiVo has promised eSATA support by the end of the year I expect some clever hacker will figure this out shortly.


Shaggy2002

join:2003-01-28
Denton, TX

BTDT, I have a question on the e-sata drive. If the internal drive fails, and you had an external attached, are all the recordings on it now gone or are you able to simply replace the internal drive and it will see all your recordings on the external one again?

jvanbrecht

join:2007-01-08
Bowie, MD

reply to Killthee
You should probably be aware that although HD sharing between Tivos's will be supported, you won't be able to pull HD content from the tivo to the PC using the Tivo desktop software. I am not sure of the details, I cannot access half the sites I usually troll from my office, but somewhere along the line I believe that the HD content will be downscaled to SD to be moved to a PC. But from Tivo to Tivo (which is my concern), all is looking good.

jvanbrecht

join:2007-01-08
Bowie, MD

reply to Shaggy2002
I believe the external drive once attached becomes married to the Tivo drives internally, that meaning that if you lose the internal drive, your pretty much screwed. Additionally, once you tivo'ise your external drive, it will need to be formated to be attached to a computer.


Shaggy2002

join:2003-01-28
Denton, TX
So then it is smarter to just buy a 1 TB internal drive and forget the e-sata because more parts can fail and you will be screwed?

jvanbrecht

join:2007-01-08
Bowie, MD
Yes, but then you void your warranty

BTDT

join:2006-01-25
Flower Mound, TX

reply to Shaggy2002
jvanbrecht is correct. If one drive goes then they both go. You can go with a snazzy RAID 5 setup for your external (or internal) if you are extremely ambitious. This was described over on tivocommunity, and would take care of the hard drive reliability question.

The ability to backup is one strength of a Vista Media Center solution, but you are talking a lot more dollars there and bigger questions with regard to CableCard tuner reliability.

Killthee

join:2002-09-09
Los Angeles, CA

reply to jvanbrecht
said by jvanbrecht See Profile :

You should probably be aware that although HD sharing between Tivos's will be supported, you won't be able to pull HD content from the tivo to the PC using the Tivo desktop software. I am not sure of the details, I cannot access half the sites I usually troll from my office, but somewhere along the line I believe that the HD content will be downscaled to SD to be moved to a PC. But from Tivo to Tivo (which is my concern), all is looking good.
What makes you say that? The S3/THD don't have the processing power to convert HD -> SD (they're not allowing HD -> SD MRV). They'd have to force the HD -> SD conversion after transferring the file to a PC if they're planning to do what you're suggesting.

KenAF

join:2006-01-23
Arlington, VA


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said by Killthee See Profile :

said by jvanbrecht See Profile :

You should probably be aware that although HD sharing between Tivos's will be supported, you won't be able to pull HD content from the tivo to the PC using the Tivo desktop software. I am not sure of the details, I cannot access half the sites I usually troll from my office, but somewhere along the line I believe that the HD content will be downscaled to SD to be moved to a PC. But from Tivo to Tivo (which is my concern), all is looking good.
What makes you say that? The S3/THD don't have the processing power to convert HD -> SD (they're not allowing HD -> SD MRV). They'd have to force the HD -> SD conversion after transferring the file to a PC if they're planning to do what you're suggesting.
Tivo announced yesterday that they would support transfer of full high-definition recordings from the TivoHD and Tivo Series3 to a PC with a software update in November.

»www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/sh···t=365225

The caveat is that this will only be possible on programs flagged as "copy freely." High-definition recordings flagged as "copy one generation" cannot be copied to a PC/Mac. On FiOS in VA, HD locals are flagged as "copy freely," as are some HD cable channels like NGC-HD, MTV-HD, FOOD-HD, and HGTV-HD.

That said, your post above isn't entirely correct. The TivoHD does have the ability to convert HD->SD. With the TivoHD design, Tivo added a new chip that can transcode MPEG-2 HD to MPEG-4 SD in realtime. The older Tivo Series3 does not have this chip, so your comment is correct about that box. Tivo could allow TivoHD owners to transfer copy-protected programs in downconverted form, but they've not said anything about that.

Killthee

join:2002-09-09
Los Angeles, CA

I know MRV, TTG, and TTCB will be coming this November....I was the one that posted the link in this thread

TiVoPony also posted this in that thread

"HD content cannot be transferred to a Series2. And there is no transcoding ability to convert HD to SD (these are consumer electronic devices, not beefy multi-core PC's). So the answer is no. If it's recorded in HD on a Series3 or TiVoHD, then it can be shared between those platforms, but not with a Series2."
»www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/sh···t5483798

KenAF

join:2006-01-23
Arlington, VA

said by Killthee See Profile :

I know MRV, TTG, and TTCB will be coming this November....I was the one that posted the link in this thread

TiVoPony also posted this in that thread

"HD content cannot be transferred to a Series2. And there is no transcoding ability to convert HD to SD (these are consumer electronic devices, not beefy multi-core PC's). So the answer is no. If it's recorded in HD on a Series3 or TiVoHD, then it can be shared between those platforms, but not with a Series2."
»www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/sh···t5483798
I didn't see that, thanks.

I guess Tivo isn't supporting the transcode feature of the XCode chip for some reason.

mjwedeking

join:2006-02-26
Murrieta, CA

reply to mikefischer99
I heard today from Verizon that they have no plans to deploy/support multi-stream cable cards. The tech told me they do not promote cable cards and would like to get away from them. I mentioned FCC requirements for cable companies to supports them. The tech responded "Yes, for now that is true."

With all of the problems I am having with the new IMG I want to get a TiVo HD. How long will the TiVo work with Verizon wanting to go full IPTV and other cable companies going to switched digital?

knarf829

join:2007-06-02

The more people who get TiVoHD, the less able Verizon will be to switch to IPTV.

The more people who receive the malware new IMG, the more people will want TiVoHD.

In the interim, maybe TiVo will find an IPTV fix.

Verizon can't handle a software rollout. Do you think they'll be able to effectively manage a change in architecture? It's laughable.

Take the TiVo plunge. One more voice to stop the IPTV if it starts to look like it's going that way.
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