inteller
Sociopaths always win.
join:2003-12-08
Tulsa, OK
| When Comcast TiVo hits..
....it'll be over. No one with two brain cells to rub together are is going to buy an expensive box, even at $299, when you can rent a box from Comcast w TiVo for YEARS before you'd realize that cost. And you'd have a warranty the whole time.
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NPGMBR
join:2001-03-28
Arlington, VA | Maybe but the problem with your scenario is that after you have paid for the box you'll continue paying for it for as long as you have the service. Thats not exactly a huge benefit! |
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Titus Pullo
I came, I saw, I slept
join:2004-06-26
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| said by NPGMBR  :Maybe but the problem with your scenario is that after you have paid for the box you'll continue paying for it for as long as you have the service. Thats not exactly a huge benefit! Ahhh, that's where you shove a high hard one up Comcast's ass by playing their own game: tote up the cost of the box in monthly fees and when you reach the magic number the box somehow slips and falls on the floor but you call and say "my box quit working" - done.
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wmcbrine
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join:2002-12-30
Laurel, MD
| reply to inteller
The Comcast Tivo still won't have all the capabilities of a standalone Tivo (nor, admittedly, vice versa). In fact, there are a number of seemingly arbitrary changes from the standard Tivo UI (not just those that stem from the different hardware or available services) that were made at Comcast's request. And of course, Comcast doesn't cover the country, nor does everyone even in Comcast areas wish to subscribe to Comcast.
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Nightfall
My Goal Is To Deny Yours
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join:2001-08-03
Grand Rapids, MI
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said by NPGMBR :Maybe but the problem with your scenario is that after you have paid for the box you'll continue paying for it for as long as you have the service. Thats not exactly a huge benefit! I am in the boat right now where I am considering a move to Comcast. However, paying $300 for a new box isn't attractive to me. Even if the Comcast Tivo rental is $15 a month (which is seriously inflated), it will take 20 months just to break even.
I remember when cable modems first came out and the price on those were about $300. You could rent a modem for $10, and that was the right thing to do at the time. Now these cable modems aren't worth renting even at $3 a month because you can get them so inexpensively.
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inteller
Sociopaths always win.
join:2003-12-08
Tulsa, OK
| reply to NPGMBR
Actually no, because by the time you "pay" for what a owned TiVo box would cost there will be a newer and better model out, so you would just take in your old box and get a new one. Sounds good to me!
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fiberguy
My views are my own.
Premium
join:2005-05-20
| reply to wmcbrine
.. nor will Tivo's relationship with comcast be exclusive. They will eventually get into bed with other providers as well. Additionally, one of the ideas of the Comcast/Tivo relationship (not to mention the DVR in general) is a tool to attract customers to the service in the first place.. if it wasn't an attraction, they never would have offered the DVR service in the first place.
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NPGMBR
join:2001-03-28
Arlington, VA
| reply to inteller
Do you own any TiVos? Because if you do then you understand that the only difference between the boxes are their physical capabilities i.e. (storage capacity, HD tuners).
That means that the TiVo Series 2 I purchased in 05 does exactly the same thing as the Series 2 DT that I purchased this year. Buying the boxes outright is the better deal because both boxes get the same software updates and have the same capabilities limited only by their hardware. So essentially, TiVo boxes will always have the lates TiVo software only one can record two shows at onece and one cannot and both boxes are paid for. |
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wierdo
join:2001-02-16
Tulsa, OK
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·Teliax VOIP
| reply to inteller
That is, nobody who cares about having a reasonably sized hard disk in their unit or whatever features the standalones have that the Comcast TiVo doesn't.
Also, I'm not so sure that the problems with the Motorola and SA boxes aren't the hardware itself rather than the software. I guess time will tell. |
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inteller
Sociopaths always win.
join:2003-12-08
Tulsa, OK
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yes, and when those boxes break out of warranty, who is going to replace them? You are, at full cost. When my Tivo STB breaks, I take it back to the cable co, and I get the latest STB box thats out....for nothing more than my monthly rental fee. And your Series 2 will NEVER record in HD....so every time a major feature like that comes out, you will be stuck buying a new box to take advantage.
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NPGMBR
join:2001-03-28
Arlington, VA
| True my Series 2 will never record HD but being as I've had my boxes for some time I already know that. And its not an issue for be because I don't subscribe to HD channels and I don't have a plasma or LCD HD TV. Yes I'll have to replace my TiVos if they break but I'll always have all the features offered by TiVo. Your box supplied by Comcast will likely be locked out of updates just at the DirectTiVo boxes were. Thats the difference! |
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eco
Premium
join:2001-11-28
Wilmington, DE
| reply to inteller
Not to mention the monthly fee TiVo charges would be included in the monthly rental fee from Comcast, I would assume, so even after your pay off the box, you'd only then start paying what would be the equivalent of TiVos monthly fee. I can't see Comcast charging for the box rental and then a TiVo subscription. |
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inteller
Sociopaths always win.
join:2003-12-08
Tulsa, OK | reply to NPGMBR
you clod, RTFA! DirecTiVos are going to get updates again, and Comcast and TiVo are under CONTRACT to provide software updates. Keep living in your dreamland.
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kinabrew
join:2002-02-01
·Comcast
| reply to eco
DirecTV charges $5.99 total for DVR service, regardless of the number of DVR receivers, and regardless of the brand/type of DVR(be it TiVo or in-house).
They also charge a $4.99 per box mirroring fee.
I have three boxes. My charges are calculated like this:
$5.99: DirecTV DVR Subscription
$4.99: Mirroring fee
$4.99: Mirroring fee
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$15.97 for three DVR boxes
What does Comcast currently charge for having three DVR boxes? |
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Nightfall
My Goal Is To Deny Yours
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Grand Rapids, MI
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| said by kinabrew :DirecTV charges $5.99 total for DVR service, regardless of the number of DVR receivers, and regardless of the brand/type of DVR(be it TiVo or in-house). They also charge a $4.99 per box mirroring fee. I have three boxes. My charges are calculated like this: $5.99: DirecTV DVR Subscription $4.99: Mirroring fee $4.99: Mirroring fee ------------------------------ $15.97 for three DVR boxes What does Comcast currently charge for having three DVR boxes? For Comcast, you pay for box rental so it going to be about $10 per box so you would pay probably about $30 for 3 Tivos. However, why would you want 3? Heck, even if you buy your own, you have to rent the cable cards.
To me, it about the same price both ways. If its the same price, why not rent? At least then if the box doesn't work, you can get a new one.
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NPGMBR
join:2001-03-28
Arlington, VA | reply to inteller
Which would explain why I used the word (were) when I described the DirectTiVo |
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kinabrew
join:2002-02-01
·Comcast
| reply to Nightfall
I want three because I'm not the only person living here.
You can optionally get the DirecTV protection plan for $5 per month.
Within the last few months, I've had three problems:
•Because of a flood in my home, the dish multiswitch got soaked with water and stopped working. They sent someone to install a new one.
•One of my four-year-old HDVR2's tuners stopped working. They overnighted a new DVR.
•The hard drive in my upgraded TiVo died. They overnighted a new DVR.
I own all of my boxes, but because of the protection plan, all three problems were fixed at no additional charge, with the total money spent still costing less than what Comcast would have charged. And not only that, I only signed up for the protection plan *the day after* the first problem had happened, and that problem was still covered. |
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zimmett
join:2007-09-12
Saint Marys, PA | As a new subscriber to Directv, I'm I forced to purchase the Directv Protection Plan. I thought if the new R-15 failed, Directv would have to send a new one anyway? |
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