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| Re: Cost? VoIP? said by Jeffrey  :No mention of cost yet, but I'm sure people would pay for it. Thinking about my last 5 hr flight to San Francisco and back in May, I might pay for a broadband service if it was at the right price-point. I hope the latency is just bad enough so that a VoIP phone call won't be too clear. I don't think I could take 150-200 people chatting away for 5 hours. Cost: Aircell claims it will be in the price range of a typical non-free Wifi hotspot on the ground.
Voice: they so no because they want a quiet cabin.
Speed: they are using ground based EVDO antennas and the shared speed for the whole cabin will be at EVDO speeds.
»www.aircell.com/index.php?option···8&L3=how
AirCell’s broadband service is based on an established telecommunications technology called CDMA EVDO, a high-speed system already in use by a number of ground-based wireless carriers.
In the future, AirCell may offer cellular services that will enable passengers to SMS, MMS, email, and browse the Internet using a standard cell phone. While voice service is technically possible, AirCell believes in keeping a quiet, peaceful atmosphere in the cabin and will not offer it as a service. »www.aircell.com/index.php?option···emid=318
Pricing will mirror what you would pay at any ground based Wi-Fi hotspot Q&A: »www.aircell.com/index.php?option···&L3=faqs
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| Re: Cost? VoIP? said by TKJunkMail :said by Jeffrey :No mention of cost yet, but I'm sure people would pay for it. Thinking about my last 5 hr flight to San Francisco and back in May, I might pay for a broadband service if it was at the right price-point. I hope the latency is just bad enough so that a VoIP phone call won't be too clear. I don't think I could take 150-200 people chatting away for 5 hours. Cost: Aircell claims it will be in the price range of a typical non-free Wifi hotspot on the ground. Voice: they so no because they want a quiet cabin. Speed: they are using ground based EVDO antennas and the shared speed for the whole cabin will be at EVDO speeds. » www.aircell.com/index.php?option···8&L3=howAirCell’s broadband service is based on an established telecommunications technology called CDMA EVDO, a high-speed system already in use by a number of ground-based wireless carriers.
In the future, AirCell may offer cellular services that will enable passengers to SMS, MMS, email, and browse the Internet using a standard cell phone. While voice service is technically possible, AirCell believes in keeping a quiet, peaceful atmosphere in the cabin and will not offer it as a service. » www.aircell.com/index.php?option···emid=318Pricing will mirror what you would pay at any ground based Wi-Fi hotspot Q&A: » www.aircell.com/index.php?option···&L3=faqs great, just great; so I was right.
in order to get the best EVDO coverage, they'll have to go with all 3 of the major EVDO carriers...though, I'd imagine, if they only pick one, it'll be Sprint.
Dandy, just dandy; exactly what people who's only broadband choice is EVDO needs....less bandwidth and higher latency.
I might also add that the most one tower can handle is 1288k in rural areas and 2576k in cities; if you get 2 or more users pulling off of one tower, it'll make it heck for everyone pulling from that tower.
another problem; the smarter or semi-techie passengers will just use Skype/MSN/Vonage/Etc. to make voice calls; EVDO Rev. A has low enough latency to support VoIP. (of course, if you have 2+ people on, forget it).
*sigh* I detest...just absolutely detest this idea. | |
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2 edits | Re: Cost? VoIP? They are using EVDO technology, but from looking at the Aircell web site, IT APPEARS like they have their own towers and assigned private frequencies from the FCC. So they won't be sharing service with Sprint, Verizon, etc. Also the shared bandwidth for the plane should be higher than the typical EVDO bandwidth available to a Sprint or Verizon cellphone user. But it will still be shared bandwidth for however many people use the service at one time on the plane, and however many planes may be leeching off 1 tower at the same time.
Since you are going thru the aircell gateway, I suspect they will be able to block any protocols they don't want being used. So using VOIP may be very difficult if they really want to block it.
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| Re: Cost? VoIP? said by TKJunkMail :They are using EVDO technology, but from looking at the Aircell web site, IT APPEARS like they have their own towers and assigned private frequencies from the FCC. So they won't be sharing service with Sprint, Verizon, etc. Also the shared bandwidth for the plane should be higher than the typical EVDO bandwidth available to a Sprint or Verizon cellphone user. But it will still be shared bandwidth for however many people use the service at one time on the plane, and however many planes may be leeching off 1 tower at the same time. Since you are going thru the aircell gateway, I suspect they will be able to block any protocols they don't want being used. So using VOIP may be very diificult if they really want to block it. Let's just hope that it stays that way; for them to operate off of any cellular carrier's network could spell disaster for its users. (whether it be data-card or cellphone users). | |
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| said by Fox McCloud :another problem; the smarter or semi-techie passengers will just use Skype/MSN/Vonage/Etc. *sigh* I detest...just absolutely detest this idea. If I hear ONE yammering F*cker on the flight, I am going to choke them with the cord from the free headphones the airlines hand out.
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| Re: Cost? VoIP? said by John Galt :said by Fox McCloud :another problem; the smarter or semi-techie passengers will just use Skype/MSN/Vonage/Etc. *sigh* I detest...just absolutely detest this idea. If I hear ONE yammering F*cker on the flight, I am going to choke them with the cord from the free headphones the airlines hand out. I don't fly, at all (I've flown before, but I don't consider myself a flyer), but still, I'd feel the same way; it's bad enough when you're in a restaurant and someone's talking really loudly to their friend/spouse/the wall...cellphones+restaurants/small areas are even worse.
On a plain? Ughhh, it'd be half tempting just to say (very nicely, so they don't suspect anything) "hey, can I saw a few words?" then say "I"m sorry, but XXXXX can't make it to the phone from here on out; he has a very angry passenger sitting right next to him who may dispatch of him if he calls again".
ok, not really, as that'd probably land your butt in jail today *sigh*, but still, that's, no doubt, what you feel like doing. | |
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join:2003-10-13 | Re: Cost? VoIP? Go ahead. If the airline provides the headset, the quality of wire is so cheesy that it will break instantly. | |
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| Interesting. How do they plan to reach terrestrial towers while they're over the Atlantic??? The article says that the initial planes will be "transcontinental" ones so.......
The pic also indicates that the box would be connected to a sat. dish...
Cool stuff either way.
Latency should be pretty decent if it's going straight to land based towers, but if they jump to a sat. beam, that latency would instantly be much higher. | |
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| Re: Cost? VoIP? said by amungus :Interesting. How do they plan to reach terrestrial towers while they're over the Atlantic??? The article says that the initial planes will be "transcontinental" ones so....... The pic also indicates that the box would be connected to a sat. dish... Over the Atlantic would be trans-Atlantic or trans-oceanic. Transcontinental just means over the North American land mass - no oceans.
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