Re: Cost? VoIP? in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r18791787 en Thu, 03 Dec 2009 07:59:37 EDT Thu, 03 Dec 2009 07:59:37 EDT Re: Cost? VoIP? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18801589 CyBrChRsT : lmao, well as far as SKYPE is concerned they can block whatever ports they want. SKYPE is unblockable, it will find a port one way or another, why do you think one of the board of directors for SKYPE is from CISCO? Just another wonderful technology for them to acquire once it hits big! And as far as annoying fuckheads go you could do what some guy did here to his well what is now ex-gf goes, he got so sick of her yammering away on the cell he shoved her phone down her throat! lol but of course that involves doing time once you hit the ground! :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18801589 Fri, 03 Aug 2007 04:09:36 EDT It works http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18800533 snolsen : I flew Lufthansa back in 2005 from Frankfurt to Denver, free internet all the way.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18800533 Thu, 02 Aug 2007 23:01:00 EDT Re: Cost? VoIP? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18797519 stufried : Go ahead. If the airline provides the headset, the quality of wire is so cheesy that it will break instantly. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18797519 Thu, 02 Aug 2007 15:13:43 EDT Re: Cost? VoIP? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18794946 N3OGH : You can't do that....

Those headphones are cheesy. Use your leather belt. Put the buckle right on his Adam's apple and dig your knee into it! :)
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said by Fox McCloud See Profile :

another problem; the smarter or semi-techie passengers will just use Skype/MSN/Vonage/Etc.
*sigh* I detest...just absolutely detest this idea.
If I hear ONE yammering F*cker on the flight, I am going to choke them with the cord from the free headphones the airlines hand out.

:uhh:
I don't fly, at all (I've flown before, but I don't consider myself a flyer), but still, I'd feel the same way; it's bad enough when you're in a restaurant and someone's talking really loudly to their friend/spouse/the wall...cellphones+restaurants/small areas are even worse.

On a plain? Ughhh, it'd be half tempting just to say (very nicely, so they don't suspect anything) "hey, can I saw a few words?" then say "I"m sorry, but XXXXX can't make it to the phone from here on out; he has a very angry passenger sitting right next to him who may dispatch of him if he calls again".

ok, not really, as that'd probably land your butt in jail today *sigh*, but still, that's, no doubt, what you feel like doing.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18794490 Thu, 02 Aug 2007 02:13:22 EDT Re: Cost? VoIP? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18793974 John Galt :
said by Fox McCloud See Profile :

another problem; the smarter or semi-techie passengers will just use Skype/MSN/Vonage/Etc.
*sigh* I detest...just absolutely detest this idea.
If I hear ONE yammering F*cker on the flight, I am going to choke them with the cord from the free headphones the airlines hand out.

:uhh:
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Cost $5+ $0.0125 per k or $40 for 24/H max data 200-300 MB $0.0050 per k over.
Not terrible. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18792936 Wed, 01 Aug 2007 21:14:25 EDT Re: Cost? VoIP? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18792852 Joe12345678 : Cost $5+ $0.0125 per k or $40 for 24/H max data 200-300 MB $0.0050 per k over.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18792852 Wed, 01 Aug 2007 20:59:16 EDT Re: Cost? VoIP? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18791993 Fox McCloud :
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They are using EVDO technology, but from looking at the Aircell web site, IT APPEARS like they have their own towers and assigned private frequencies from the FCC. So they won't be sharing service with Sprint, Verizon, etc. Also the shared bandwidth for the plane should be higher than the typical EVDO bandwidth available to a Sprint or Verizon cellphone user. But it will still be shared bandwidth for however many people use the service at one time on the plane, and however many planes may be leeching off 1 tower at the same time.

Since you are going thru the aircell gateway, I suspect they will be able to block any protocols they don't want being used. So using VOIP may be very diificult if they really want to block it.
Let's just hope that it stays that way; for them to operate off of any cellular carrier's network could spell disaster for its users. (whether it be data-card or cellphone users).]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18791993 Wed, 01 Aug 2007 18:51:56 EDT Re: Cost? VoIP? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18791972 TKJunkMail :
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Interesting. How do they plan to reach terrestrial towers while they're over the Atlantic??? The article says that the initial planes will be "transcontinental" ones so.......
The pic also indicates that the box would be connected to a sat. dish...
Over the Atlantic would be trans-Atlantic or trans-oceanic. Transcontinental just means over the North American land mass - no oceans.
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Since you are going thru the aircell gateway, I suspect they will be able to block any protocols they don't want being used. So using VOIP may be very difficult if they really want to block it.
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The pic also indicates that the box would be connected to a sat. dish...

Cool stuff either way.

Latency should be pretty decent if it's going straight to land based towers, but if they jump to a sat. beam, that latency would instantly be much higher.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18791922 Wed, 01 Aug 2007 18:39:16 EDT Re: Cost? VoIP? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18791912 Fox McCloud :
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No mention of cost yet, but I'm sure people would pay for it. Thinking about my last 5 hr flight to San Francisco and back in May, I might pay for a broadband service if it was at the right price-point.

I hope the latency is just bad enough so that a VoIP phone call won't be too clear. I don't think I could take 150-200 people chatting away for 5 hours.
Cost: Aircell claims it will be in the price range of a typical non-free Wifi hotspot on the ground.

Voice: they so no because they want a quiet cabin.

Speed: they are using ground based EVDO antennas and the shared speed for the whole cabin will be at EVDO speeds.

»www.aircell.com/index.php?option···8&L3=how
AirCell’s broadband service is based on an established telecommunications technology called CDMA EVDO, a high-speed system already in use by a number of ground-based wireless carriers.

In the future, AirCell may offer cellular services that will enable passengers to SMS, MMS, email, and browse the Internet using a standard cell phone. While voice service is technically possible, AirCell believes in keeping a quiet, peaceful atmosphere in the cabin and will not offer it as a service.
»www.aircell.com/index.php?option···emid=318
Pricing will mirror what you would pay at any ground based Wi-Fi hotspot
Q&A: »www.aircell.com/index.php?option···&L3=faqs
great, just great; so I was right.

in order to get the best EVDO coverage, they'll have to go with all 3 of the major EVDO carriers...though, I'd imagine, if they only pick one, it'll be Sprint.

Dandy, just dandy; exactly what people who's only broadband choice is EVDO needs....less bandwidth and higher latency.

I might also add that the most one tower can handle is 1288k in rural areas and 2576k in cities; if you get 2 or more users pulling off of one tower, it'll make it heck for everyone pulling from that tower.

another problem; the smarter or semi-techie passengers will just use Skype/MSN/Vonage/Etc. to make voice calls; EVDO Rev. A has low enough latency to support VoIP. (of course, if you have 2+ people on, forget it).

*sigh* I detest...just absolutely detest this idea.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18791912 Wed, 01 Aug 2007 18:37:21 EDT Re: Cost? VoIP? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18791787 TKJunkMail :
said by Jeffrey See Profile :

No mention of cost yet, but I'm sure people would pay for it. Thinking about my last 5 hr flight to San Francisco and back in May, I might pay for a broadband service if it was at the right price-point.

I hope the latency is just bad enough so that a VoIP phone call won't be too clear. I don't think I could take 150-200 people chatting away for 5 hours.
Cost: Aircell claims it will be in the price range of a typical non-free Wifi hotspot on the ground.

Voice: they so no because they want a quiet cabin.

Speed: they are using ground based EVDO antennas and the shared speed for the whole cabin will be at EVDO speeds.

»www.aircell.com/index.php?option···8&L3=how
AirCell’s broadband service is based on an established telecommunications technology called CDMA EVDO, a high-speed system already in use by a number of ground-based wireless carriers.

In the future, AirCell may offer cellular services that will enable passengers to SMS, MMS, email, and browse the Internet using a standard cell phone. While voice service is technically possible, AirCell believes in keeping a quiet, peaceful atmosphere in the cabin and will not offer it as a service.
»www.aircell.com/index.php?option···emid=318
Pricing will mirror what you would pay at any ground based Wi-Fi hotspot
Q&A: »www.aircell.com/index.php?option···&L3=faqs
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I hope the latency is just bad enough so that a VoIP phone call won't be too clear. I don't think I could take 150-200 people chatting away for 5 hours.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18791486 Wed, 01 Aug 2007 17:26:16 EDT