vliktor
join:2005-07-27
Philippines | reply to vliktor
Re: RIP utorrent
Looks like they have plans of having a Mac OS X version. Cool!  Developing for Linux may not be efficient use of their time as µtorrent runs perfectly under Wine or Cedega. |
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google
@alexsrv40.com | reply to mypoint is
not true, u feel for the rumor. |
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wispagod
join:2001-06-28
House Springs, MO
| reply to mypoint is
ok, then so what, cause it's like a cop has to tell you there one if you sask before a drug deal, it's not leagle and will not hold up in court. they have to tell you being watched or it aint leagle, like survalence camera's in stors they have to post that on the door! |
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Primus
@rr.com
| reply to swhx7
Here's your proof: »torrenthelp.depthstrike.com/2007···out.html
Wireshark packet dump of uTorrent traffic.
Everyone is freaking out about a new feature in the 1.7 tree, Local Peer Discovery. It uses multicast traffic to try to find geographically-close peers in order to speed up your transfers. The multicast block of addresses (224.0.0.0 - 239.255.255.255) is normally blocked by routers/firewalls/etc, leading to alert popups, leading to OMGWTFMPAABACKDOOR! calls. |
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superht1
join:2001-02-22
Kennesaw, GA | reply to mypoint is
i wish everyone stayed with .60 on bitcomet
their latest version is full of spam and spyware |
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swhx7
Premium
join:2006-07-23
Elbonia
 ·RoadRunner Cable
| reply to cypherstream
said by cypherstream  :Wouldn't peer guardian be able to detect and stop this report back nonsense?
Yes, unless uTorrent was super-sneaky and installed something at a very low level of the networking stack. But that would be detectable too.
The uTorrent documentation acknowledges that it connects at startup to check for new versions, only if the user has enabled that feature; and that it connects to a uTorrent server at startup if DHT is turned on. You have to allow those connectios, for those features to work. It could be delivering more information than claimed, but this would be detectable with packet inspection.
Apart from these exceptions, yes, any other connections would appear on logs like the Peer Guardian display. You would have to know what IPs to look for (to distinguish the "spy" connections, if any, from the legitimate ones belonging to torrent swarms). |
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DataDoc
My avatar looks like me, if I was 2D.
Premium
join:2000-05-14
Greenville, NC | reply to mypoint is
Cite your proof, or back off. |
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Asmodeus
join:2004-05-26
Spring Valley, CA
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said by mypoint is :
It's because it reports back to Mpaa and others.Reports back to Around 6 ip's that track everything you do regardless what they claim(which is lies) I'm staying with 1.6 as long as i can and if that don't work it will be another client
where is the proof of the backdoor and phone home? no one has been able to prove it yet... believe me, i'm not a fanboy, but i'm just being a realist at this point... present the proof, otherwise, stop making spurious and hysterical claims... |
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swhx7
Premium
join:2006-07-23
Elbonia
·RoadRunner Cable
| reply to raydog1
Right, that's true. But there is incentive for building in "back door" or spyware code. Any for-profit software company can benefit from collecting statistics on its customers or even data-mining them as individuals. And with the **AA collaboration, it's also in the company's interest to build in something that can be used in future to regulate what users can do with the software (i.e. DRM). They would have to get rid of the open source competition to take advantage of this, but there are ways that could happen.
As I posted elsewhere, there's no proof for or against spyware or other tricks in uTorrent. But there are good reasons to be suspicious of any closed-source software from a profit-oriented company, especially when it's given away free, and even more so when it's commonly used for something that competes with the sponsors of the purveyor. |
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swhx7
Premium
join:2006-07-23
Elbonia
·RoadRunner Cable
| reply to Karl Bode
said by Karl Bode :I'm still looking but I haven't seen any solid proof that the newer client reports anything to anyone. Perhaps people can offer up some evidence of this?
Thanks for saying this. I replied to someone making the opposite claim, and said that there's no proof of that either.
It is reasonable to be suspicious of any closed-source software from a profit-oriented vendor. But we can't have definite statements without evidence. |
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swhx7
Premium
join:2006-07-23
Elbonia
·RoadRunner Cable
| reply to vliktor
The orginal developer, and again the Bittorrent company, have said that it will not be open-sourced or that they have "no plans" to do so.
There are open source Bittorrent clients. Some are very good. Some run on Mac or Linux.
The only advantages of uTorrent are that it's very well-coded and efficient on Windows (small filesize, little memory use, high performance); and many users like the interface. One of the open source clients could be improved to become equally excellent on Linux or Mac. |
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vliktor
join:2005-07-27
Philippines | reply to vick04
Does this mean that utorrent will be open-sourced or something? A Mac OS X or Linux version would be cool  |
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vick04
join:2006-08-06
South Richmond Hill, NY
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Its sad to see that so many people didn't read the article. Some guy posts as anonymous and everyone falls for it. If utorrent was reporting back you wouldnt just hear it from some guy that doesnt have the balls to register on the site hes posting on. I bet this guy also thinks dslreports is going to steel his password if he registers. |
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raydog1
Feel Secure
Premium
join:2003-07-10
La Vergne, TN
| reply to Karl Bode
There would be no point in creating an app that reports to the **AA. They can use the regular means to find lawsuit victims just as easily. Just fire up any bittorent app, connect to any Harry Potter movie torrent, collect IPs, send letters, rinse, repeat. |
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Karl Bode
News Guy
join:2000-03-02 | reply to cypherstream
I'm still looking but I haven't seen any solid proof that the newer client reports anything to anyone. Perhaps people can offer up some evidence of this? |
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cypherstream
Looking forward to the future of things.
Premium,MVM
join:2004-12-02
Reading, PA
clubs: | reply to mypoint is
Wouldn't peer guardian be able to detect and stop this report back nonsense? |
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chaud
Serious Business
join:2004-07-09
Anderson, SC
 ·Charter VOIP
·Packet8
| reply to mypoint is
said by mypoint is :
It's because it reports back to Mpaa and others.Reports back to Around 6 ip's that track everything you do regardless what they claim(which is lies) I'm staying with 1.6 as long as i can and if that don't work it will be another client
Same here. I don't care if it logs anything, I don't even want to contribte to their over 1 million downloads number or anything. Hopefully something new pops up to replace it. Azurues (spelling) is a reseource hog, and many other clients are not as light as utorrent was. |
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mypoint is
@centurytel.net | reply to Omega
It's because it reports back to Mpaa and others.Reports back to Around 6 ip's that track everything you do regardless what they claim(which is lies) I'm staying with 1.6 as long as i can and if that don't work it will be another client |
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