tc1uscg
join:2005-03-09
Saint Clair Shores, MI
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Re: Right
said by Tzale  :said by Jason Levine :Sarcasm aside, that's actually the real reason. "Spent $6 billion to rebuild some roads and bridges" isn't a eye catching campaign item. "Spent $6 billion hunting down and capturing terrorists intent on destroying America" is. The latter is likely to woo voters than the former so that's how the politicians spend our money. They only care about these "non-sexy" items when something catastrophic happens. (In which case, it suddenly becomes politically "sexy" to care about it.) ... killing some assholes and camels in a tent in the middle of the Sahara.  -Tzale We could wish it would that easy. In a sea of 1000 tents with 1 holding hostiles, it's gets a bit complicated, even for smart bombs.  |
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Tzale
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said by uR :said by Tzale :I'd rather they spend my money on something I am actually going to use versus having them spend it on killing some assholes and camels in a tent in the middle of the Sahara. Geography time: The Sahara Desert is in Africa. Iraq is not. And there's a lot more than camels and tents there; they do have buildings and cars and stuff. But yeah. This whole episode is a gross abuse of our national resources—especially given the rather obvious ulterior motives involved. (Has that "war" even been declared? Everyone is calling it a war; but i don't recall it ever going to Congress.) I know exactly where the Sahara is... It's just a joke.
And no it hasn't been declared... I don't think many wars are declared anymore... Perhaps the last one was WW2 or the Korean War... I don't even think that Vietnam was declared.
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Big Dawg 23
join:2002-03-27
Northfield, MN
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We don't need to raise taxes. Just cut the free loaders off!! We are one the highest taxed states. T-Paw did the right thing. It took less then three hours for the bleeding hearts to make the tragedy a political debut. How anyone thinks a gas tax raise would have solved this is beyond me. They don't build bridges like that in 30 days. Anyone looking for political gain in a tragedy should be em-brassed. Lets focus on the real issues how did it collapse and remember the ones lost.
I was within in 5 miles of the bridge collapse. My cell usually took 4 attempts to complete the call and text messaging failed also. I needed to call a my wife and mother in law as they were right near the bridge. |
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spg
Grrrr
join:2001-10-31
NOT Texas!
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And yet, he would not approve what his own Federal
DOT asked for, slashed its budget by billions and only grudgingly approved what the Democratic congress funded them (which was billions more than he wanted but less than DOT wanted) because the legislation was tied to things in the budget that he wanted.
So no, we can not blame him specifically for this collapse, but we can surely blame him for not wanting to go ahead and fix a well known and documented problem.
Unless the infratructure is fixed more bridges will fall. |
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spg
Grrrr
join:2001-10-31
NOT Texas! | reply to acs12798
with matching Federal dollars. |
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spg
Grrrr
join:2001-10-31
NOT Texas! | reply to Nuts
I'm not surprised he's (the governor) all in favor of raising taxes to fix the roads NOW, since he vetoed legislation that would have done it just recently. |
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uR
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said by Tzale :I'd rather they spend my money on something I am actually going to use versus having them spend it on killing some assholes and camels in a tent in the middle of the Sahara. Geography time: The Sahara Desert is in Africa. Iraq is not. And there's a lot more than camels and tents there; they do have buildings and cars and stuff.
But yeah. This whole episode is a gross abuse of our national resources—especially given the rather obvious ulterior motives involved.
(Has that "war" even been declared? Everyone is calling it a war; but i don't recall it ever going to Congress.) |
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Tzale
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said by VegasMan :Shit we invaded North Africa again? When did this happen? I know it isn't geographically correct, but the "Sahara" just fits better and gives me a visual of a guy with a cloth on his head and a camel... lol.
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pabster
join:2001-12-09
Waterloo, IA
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It took all of a few seconds. Brainwashed sheeple, indeed.
These are the same people who blame Bush for their toilet running a bit slow and cuss him when a light bulb blows out.
The MN DOT had information AS FAR BACK AS 1990 that the 35W bridge was in TERRIBLE CONDITION...
Then again, we shouldn't be too surprised. Left-wing nut jobs are a dime a dozen on the 'net. |
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Nuts
join:2006-04-27
Forest, OH
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»www.gaspricewatch.com/usgastaxes.asp
The federal gas tax rate is $0.184 per gallon. The average state gas tax is $0.22. Looks like the states are already paying a good chunk of their own roads.
Yes, the states are more than able to fund their own road work. The feds need to eliminate their gas tax, and the states can ajust their rates to where they need it to meet their needs. The problem is, that too many states goverments want to pass the buck and blame someone else, just like so many other people. |
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Transmaster
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join:2001-06-20
Cheyenne, WY
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Ditto in Wyoming for more the 40 years. Because Wyoming is miles and miles of miles and miles our road system must be maintained. The Wyoming Department of Transportation does a very good job of it. I used to know one of the engineers that inspected the brigdes in the state depending on the amount of use it was from every year to every 2 of 3 years on the less used brigdes. Wyoming does have the advantage of a low population and therefore roads with fairly low useage.
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VegasMan
Are We There Yet?
join:2002-11-17
Schaumburg, IL | reply to Tzale
Shit we invaded North Africa again? When did this happen?
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bmn
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join:2001-03-15
hiatus
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Re: You sir, are an ...
said by JamesPC :We wont have a country to rebuild if we don't win this war. Afghanistan, maybe. Iraq, no.
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fiberguy
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join:2005-05-20
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Re: Right
"Also, the Minn. state govenor said in a press interview today, that he had wanted to raise the state gas tax to help pay for road work."
That's a load of crock!
Pawlenty has run his administration on "no new taxes"... gee, I wonder where we heard that before??
The dems wanted to raise the gas tax $0.10 and $0.05 cents per gallon here and Good ol' Veto Pawlenty said "no"...
If he truly said that, then he's just looking like a complete idiot.
The state of Minnesota was in MUCH better condition under Jessee than it is now under this cross eye crock of crap who has his good eye on the white house.
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Jason Levine
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join:2001-07-13
USA
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Re: EH
said by JamesPC :you guys can go back to Canada! Back? I'm from the US. I was born here, raised here, and I can't foresee myself moving out of the US anytime soon. What I said about politicians is true. They (for the most part, there are a few exceptions) aren't concerned with keeping this nation great as much as they are concerned with keeping their jobs intact and securing cushy post-Congress lobbyist firm positions for themselves. This isn't a hit against Republicans or Democrats, but against politicians in general on both sides of the aisle. |
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BosstonesOwn
join:2002-12-15
Everett, MA
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Re: Right
said by Jonbo298 :said by major marco :This news story is just polishing the turd. The real news is that our illustrious federal leaders prefer to spend a billion dollars per month on an illegal war instead of keeping us safe from our crumbling infrastructure.  Yeah, thats the funny part of it all. Bush demands billions of dollars to fund a WAR that wasn't necessary but yet doesn't care about his own country it seems. He's more interested in funneling more billions upon billions to another country, rather then helping his own! I think it was michael moore (yes yes, boooo hisssss) recently who said "Lawmakers can't say we don't have the money to fund things inside the US when we are spending billions for the war" (not an exact quote but pretty close) Are you kidding me ? Bush is helping his own ! He is fighting the "wur on turrur" so his own oil buddies can get oil cheaper.
Make no mistakes this man is not a fool he just took to many of his friends words for what they want.
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furlonium
Computer Over? Virus equals Very Yes?
join:2002-05-08
Bethlehem, PA
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said by major marco :This news story is just polishing the turd. The real news is that our illustrious federal leaders prefer to spend a billion dollars per month on an illegal war instead of keeping us safe from our crumbling infrastructure. I was wondering how long it'd take some left wing nutjob asshole to blame the bridge collapsing on Bush.
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JamesPC
join:2005-10-12
Orange, CA | reply to Jerm
Re: You sir, are an ...
We wont have a country to rebuild if we don't win this war. |
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JamesPC
join:2005-10-12
Orange, CA | reply to Jason Levine
EH
you guys can go back to Canada! |
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Jason Levine
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join:2001-07-13
USA
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Re: Right
No argument there. But politicians see these things as "boring." We need to put an anti-terrorism spin on it....
"Al Qaeda has plans on infiltrating America, going onto our bridges, and stomping real hard thus knocking them down and killing thousands. We must funnel billions in anti-terrorism funds to repair our nation's bridges!" |
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