Nuts
join:2006-04-27
Forest, OH
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The States could raise their own taxes to take care of these things. Why do we always think it's the federal governments job. I'd like to see the feds do away with their gas tax and tell the states they can handle it. Along with a long list of other programs |
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satellite68
join:2007-04-11
Louisville, KY
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said by Nuts  :The States could raise their own taxes to take care of these things. Why do we always think it's the federal governments job. I'd like to see the feds do away with their gas tax and tell the states they can handle it. Along with a long list of other programs Uh, no, that's an Interstate Highway bridge. I guess the Eisenhower Highway System, started by and funded by the feds, is somehow a bad idea? You've never travelled on an interstate highway at any time in the past fifty years?? |
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halfband
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Huntsville, AL
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said by Nuts :The States could raise their own taxes to take care of these things. Why do we always think it's the federal governments job. Alabama has been doing this for more than 10 years now. Partly through a gas tax they are replacing or rebuilding all the old bridges in the entire state. A huge number of the major river bridges and the smaller creek and minor river bridges have already been replaced. Surely the rest of the country can keep up with Alabama! 
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Nuts
join:2006-04-27
Forest, OH
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While Interstate Highways usually receive substantial federal funding and comply with federal standards, they are owned, built, and operated by the states in which they are located. The only exception is the federally-owned Woodrow Wilson Bridge on the Capital Beltway (I-95/I-495).
»http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Int···y_System
Also, the Minn. state govenor said in a press interview today, that he had wanted to raise the state gas tax to help pay for road work.
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You've never travelled on an interstate highway at any time in the past fifty years??
I trave at least 10 hrs a week on them, and have racked up over 13,000 miles since April. Had over 55,000 miles last year on them. |
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acs12798
join:2006-03-13
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Hate the break it to you, but even the interstate highway system is maintained by the states and always has been. The feds helped fund it, and organize it, but it was always the states job to take care of the roads. Thus MTA in NY charges on I-87 and I-90 for large portions. So the person you replied to and tried to put down was in fact correct. |
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satellite68
join:2007-04-11
Louisville, KY
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You started with:
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The States could raise their own taxes to take care of these things. Why do we always think it's the federal governments job
Clearly, without the "significant federal funding" involved, the system probably wouldn't be as fabulous as it is, warts and all-or even built, for that matter.
»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstate···y_System
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Of course, a state that lost federal highway funding could theoretically threaten to stop maintaining its highways, if that were politically palatable to its residents
Good luck with that idealogy. You claim to drive so much on these roads-could Ohio maintain all of its interstates without federal funding? Hardly. Could Ohio have built these interstates by themselves? Not by a country mile.
I always love it when people say things like "Why do we always think it's the federal governments job?" when they clearly use/benefit from the federal government's involvement in the very thing they're railing against.
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»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matching_funds
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In the United States, many projects in the various states and communities are partially funded with federal grants with a requirement for matching funds. For example, the Interstate Highway System was primarily built with a mix of 90% FHWA funds from the Highway Trust Fund and 10% matching state DOT funds.
So basically...you're advocating using only 10% of the road? Or should Ohio raise it's taxes to get the other 90%? Keep in mind-since you're advocating keeping the feds out of the interstate highway building business (Why do we always think it's the federal governments job?), the highway you drive on would never have been built in the first place. |
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fiberguy
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"Also, the Minn. state govenor said in a press interview today, that he had wanted to raise the state gas tax to help pay for road work."
That's a load of crock!
Pawlenty has run his administration on "no new taxes"... gee, I wonder where we heard that before??
The dems wanted to raise the gas tax $0.10 and $0.05 cents per gallon here and Good ol' Veto Pawlenty said "no"...
If he truly said that, then he's just looking like a complete idiot.
The state of Minnesota was in MUCH better condition under Jessee than it is now under this cross eye crock of crap who has his good eye on the white house.
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Transmaster
Don't Blame Me I Voted For Bill and Opus
join:2001-06-20
Cheyenne, WY
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Ditto in Wyoming for more the 40 years. Because Wyoming is miles and miles of miles and miles our road system must be maintained. The Wyoming Department of Transportation does a very good job of it. I used to know one of the engineers that inspected the brigdes in the state depending on the amount of use it was from every year to every 2 of 3 years on the less used brigdes. Wyoming does have the advantage of a low population and therefore roads with fairly low useage.
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Nuts
join:2006-04-27
Forest, OH
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»www.gaspricewatch.com/usgastaxes.asp
The federal gas tax rate is $0.184 per gallon. The average state gas tax is $0.22. Looks like the states are already paying a good chunk of their own roads.
Yes, the states are more than able to fund their own road work. The feds need to eliminate their gas tax, and the states can ajust their rates to where they need it to meet their needs. The problem is, that too many states goverments want to pass the buck and blame someone else, just like so many other people. |
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spg
Grrrr
join:2001-10-31
NOT Texas! | reply to Nuts
I'm not surprised he's (the governor) all in favor of raising taxes to fix the roads NOW, since he vetoed legislation that would have done it just recently. |
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spg
Grrrr
join:2001-10-31
NOT Texas! | reply to acs12798
with matching Federal dollars. |
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Big Dawg 23
join:2002-03-27
Northfield, MN
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We don't need to raise taxes. Just cut the free loaders off!! We are one the highest taxed states. T-Paw did the right thing. It took less then three hours for the bleeding hearts to make the tragedy a political debut. How anyone thinks a gas tax raise would have solved this is beyond me. They don't build bridges like that in 30 days. Anyone looking for political gain in a tragedy should be em-brassed. Lets focus on the real issues how did it collapse and remember the ones lost.
I was within in 5 miles of the bridge collapse. My cell usually took 4 attempts to complete the call and text messaging failed also. I needed to call a my wife and mother in law as they were right near the bridge. |
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