WoW Expansion Take 2: Wrath of the Lich King in World of Warcraft http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r18806581 en Wed, 11 Nov 2009 06:00:49 EDT Wed, 11 Nov 2009 06:00:49 EDT Re: WoW Expansion Take 2: Wrath of the Lich King http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22298616 jonh02747 : *** DO NOT POST ACCOUNT INFORMATION HERE! ***

the only thing i ask is not 2 ditch the account, cuz it has no items its just the charachter. plz actually use it and play it and not use it as a bank or only for BS]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22298616 Sun, 26 Apr 2009 15:04:24 EDT Re: Wrath of the Lich King trials available! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21798137 Don69Fire : decisions decisions. hmmmmmm. do i make a 3rd account or not. lol...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21798137 Sat, 24 Jan 2009 02:31:39 EDT Wrath of the Lich King trials available! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21774965 ErikVKing : New 10-day trial just released:

»www.worldofwarcraft.com/trial/wr···ash.html

FAQ page: »us.blizzard.com/support/article.···trialfaq

Page quoted here:

The Wrath of the Lich King Trial FAQ

Who is eligible to try the Wrath of the Lich King 10-day free trial edition?

Anyone who has a current subscription or has ever had a subscription to World of Warcraft: The Burning Crusade can play the Wrath of the Lich King trial. There is a limit of one free trial per account. World of Warcraft "classic" trial accounts and World of Warcraft: The Burning Crusade trial accounts are not eligible for the Wrath of the Lich King 10-day free trial.

How does the 10-day time limit work?

The 10-day trial period starts immediately once you activate the free trial in Account Management, and expires after 10 calendar days, whether you play it or not. Since you can only activate this 10-day trial once, please make sure you do so when you are ready to get the most use out of it!

How do I upgrade to the full version of Wrath of the Lich King?

If you have a credit card, you can upgrade the account directly online for $39.99 USD at any time. You can also purchase a boxed copy from the online Blizzard Store or most major retailers of entertainment software.

What content do I have access to during the 10-day free trial?

The trial account will have access to all of the expansion content, including creation of the new death knight Hero class and access to the new continent of Northrend. Please note that in order to create a death knight, you must already have a level 55 or higher character on the realm on which you wish to create the death knight. Northrend is recommended for characters who have reached level 68 or higher. While you can complete expansion quests and even pick up some powerful new items, any characters you play during the trial can only advance up to one experience point below level 71.

What happens to my characters and items after the 10 free days expire?

Any new death knight characters you've created (you must already have a level 55 or higher character on the realm to create a death knight) will be saved and will be inaccessible until you upgrade to the full version of Wrath of the Lich King. Once you've upgraded, they will be unlocked just as you left them and ready for further adventures. All items and gold you gain during the trial period are yours to keep. Any characters that find themselves still in Northrend or any other expansion zone at the trial expiration will be transported to their bind point in Azeroth. If the character's bind point was set in Northrend, he or she will be transported to one of the default graveyards or home cities.

Do characters I create during my 10-day free trial count against the character limit?

Yes. These characters will count toward your maximum limit of 10 characters per realm and 50 characters per account. If you reach your limit, however, you can delete these characters at any time -- even after the trial period has expired.

Can I keep any pets I acquire in the expansion zones?

Yes!

Have to laugh at this though:

"Please note that in order to create a death knight, you must already have a level 55 or higher character on the realm on which you wish to create the death knight"

After reading the patch notes:

General

* Players may now create death knights on any realm once they reach level 55.
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That way I can be home for it and not have to deal with crappy connections here in Kuwait :D.
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is it confirmed to be out in Nov? or is that still just smoke up my ass?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20697543 Wed, 25 Jun 2008 14:08:48 EDT Re: WoW Expansion Take 2: Wrath of the Lich King http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20676323 ErikVKing : Well when WoW came out it was called the *death of EQ1* and there are still some people playing it. Heck the main and maybe the *only* real reason I left EQ was because:

Probably 90-95% of my RL friends played WoW and maybe 25% of them jumped ship from EQ1. Heck before WoW we in the EQ world were calling WoW the "debil" ... so my first WoW character reflected my EQ name and the debil name: I became Miegsdebil!

I know I'm not alone in this, and now I'm a WoW addict like so many others...but to me it's the social aspect, as much as the game. More people playing = more social interaction.

But ... those not playing EQ that enjoyed how SOE does business compared to Blizzard ... are playing VanGuard. I plan to try VG (again - long story). As some of you know I am stationed in Kuwait right now, and let's just say the internet ... ummm, SUCKS! So downloading is taking forever, and the last download I had kept booting me after exactly two minutes. Trying again to go play with old EQ friends! I can't wait to see them all again :p.

Yes, as far as I know, neither compare to what WoW has as far as virtual numbers of people playing but...if a game that is now what, 9-10 years old?, can still function...

We shall see what comes true, but one never can predict the future!

EDIT: On a side note of sorts ... any old EQ folks recall the year or so before WoW was due to release? How many expansions were dumped on us in that year? Maybe 5 or more? Not to mention all the little "fixes/additions/etc." they tossed in. To me it was a panic attack by some of the SOE cronies when they thought they were all about to be thrown off of the virtual gaming cliff:

Cronie 1: So I heard this new World of Warcraft game is supposed to be pretty damn nice and will be using a lot of the ideas we came up with.

Cronie 2: Do you think this will be bad news for us and our Dev. Team?

Cronie 1: I think we are going ot be in a world of sh*t

Cronie 2 (to the Dev. Team): THROW EVERYTHING WE HAVE AT OUR GUYS, MAKE THEM ALL BUY 7 NEW EXPANSIONS!!! THIS WAY WE WON'T HAVE 3 YEARS WORTH OF WORK FLUSHED DOWN THE TOILET!



I bet WoW has more than just WotLK up their sleeves, so if something looks to be about to do the same to them as they did to the EQ team...read the scenario above!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20676323 Sat, 21 Jun 2008 06:36:31 EDT Re: WoW Expansion Take 2: Wrath of the Lich King http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20625809 Harddrive : thats funny. a person playing a person playing WoW.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20625809 Wed, 11 Jun 2008 09:33:36 EDT Re: WoW Expansion Take 2: Wrath of the Lich King http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20623725 shinjuru : »www.theonion.com/content/video/w···ers_play]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20623725 Tue, 10 Jun 2008 20:56:19 EDT Re: WoW Expansion Take 2: Wrath of the Lich King http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20600127 m5057669 : Ugh, I've heard this 50 times already. Blizzard has not set a date, places just set dates so that they can issue pre-orders. Gamestop doesn't know. When they know, we'll know.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20600127 Fri, 06 Jun 2008 08:33:12 EDT Re: WoW Expansion Take 2: Wrath of the Lich King http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20573833 Thaler : I have the official Blizzard release date:

Soon™]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20573833 Sun, 01 Jun 2008 17:39:33 EDT Re: WoW Expansion Take 2: Wrath of the Lich King http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20573402 Archivis : Ugh, I've heard this 50 times already. Blizzard has not set a date, places just set dates so that they can issue pre-orders. Gamestop doesn't know. When they know, we'll know.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20573402 Sun, 01 Jun 2008 15:51:13 EDT Re: WoW Expansion Take 2: Wrath of the Lich King http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20572955 Harddrive : yeah, i saw that last weekend. i wouldn't bet money on it though.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20572955 Sun, 01 Jun 2008 13:44:27 EDT Re: WoW Expansion Take 2: Wrath of the Lich King http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20572848 weaseled386 : Looks like Gamestop still has a release date of 11/3/08. I looked through their "Up Coming Releases" book this morning.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20572848 Sun, 01 Jun 2008 13:17:04 EDT Re: WoW Expansion Take 2: Wrath of the Lich King http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20280710 chaud : Every company almost has set a date...
Beta inc wut.
Realmlist to beta.us.login....brings you to a dev region with no realms, and »www.mmo-champion.com/ tells that the beta sites for US/EU were recently changed from 404 to 403 errors, similar to the week before WotLK announcement. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20280710 Fri, 04 Apr 2008 06:29:48 EDT Re: WoW Expansion Take 2: Wrath of the Lich King http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20274669 kingdome74 : Yep but I thought it interesting that they have set the first date.
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said by Dodge See Profile :

I honestly forsee a long quest chain involving more travel than necessary, several heroic (or whatever they come up with by then) runs, followed by more travel. After I think 4 months tops the forums will fill with "This quest chain is too hard for . QQ." Then more QQ will follow asking for unrelated nerfs to deathknights and druids (just for the hell of it). Then the whole quest chain will get oblitirated to literally one run at regular difficulty.
Actually, the devs rated the Death Knight questline on par with the warlock quest of yesteryear.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20168330 Sat, 15 Mar 2008 05:23:29 EDT Re: WoW Expansion Take 2: Wrath of the Lich King http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20166990 Dodge : I honestly forsee a long quest chain involving more travel than necessary, several heroic (or whatever they come up with by then) runs, followed by more travel. After I think 4 months tops the forums will fill with "This quest chain is too hard for . QQ." Then more QQ will follow asking for unrelated nerfs to deathknights and druids (just for the hell of it). Then the whole quest chain will get oblitirated to literally one run at regular difficulty.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20166990 Fri, 14 Mar 2008 21:30:58 EDT Re: WoW Expansion Take 2: Wrath of the Lich King http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20161119 Thaler :
said by Harddrive See Profile :

you will then start out with the Death Knight at a higher level (Blizz hasnt said what level). nothing will happen to your original character that you used to 'unlock' the Death Knight.
Last I checked, they're giving you a choice with the process/quest. Doing the quest allows you to create Death Knights at will (starting level range is entry level to outlands). However, last I checked, they were also were contimplating allowing characters to "reform" to a death knight - keeping their reputation/faction, loot, etc. (but not class talents/skills!) and starting at a character that's entry-level to WotLK.

In other words, complete quest, create a new Death Knight, grind through Outlands & WotLK...or...complete quest, reform character to Death Knight, then just go grind WotLK content. (along with a snazzy new "Fallen (Idiot)" title too.

Either way, its still way too early to tell. Content is still very flexible, and Blizzard could just as well make Death Knight attunement the result of becoming hated with Sporeggar. (which my brother is working on *facepalm*)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20161119 Thu, 13 Mar 2008 19:20:32 EDT Re: WoW Expansion Take 2: Wrath of the Lich King http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20160358 Mike : I thought the main finishing quest was to "rescue" aka a stupid escort from a stratholme based instance thing.

I think blizzard still doesn't know what they want to do.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20160358 Thu, 13 Mar 2008 17:00:11 EDT Re: WoW Expansion Take 2: Wrath of the Lich King http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20159161 Harddrive : the way Blizz has stated that you will 'unlock' a Death Knight is through a quest line of your current character (probably a quest line that starts at lvl 80). you will then start out with the Death Knight at a higher level (Blizz hasnt said what level). nothing will happen to your original character that you used to 'unlock' the Death Knight.
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said by Mike See Profile :

You can create a new character. There is an internal debate to have upgradable (mage -> arch mage) or a new character since people invested a lot of time into their mains.
The last time I dug into WotLK proposed mechanics, the death knight presents one of two options:

1. "Upgrading" your existing character into a Death Knight. This just converts the toon completely to a Death Knight. By doing so, you'd get a special title (ie. Fallen Priest or something), your new Death Knight retains all faction states of your old character, and he starts at a higher level (say 68 or something).

2. Rolling a new Death Knight. Nothing special or new by choosing this method. You do start at a lower level than if you went with option 1 (say...58?).

Again, whichever way you choose, a Death Knight is still an entirely new class. It doesn't build upon other classes at all, it has its own skills and abilities much like any other class.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20157887 Thu, 13 Mar 2008 10:02:10 EDT Re: WoW Expansion Take 2: Wrath of the Lich King http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20157591 Dodge :
said by Mike See Profile :

The last time I checked your character can't change.

You can create a new character. There is an internal debate to have upgradable (mage -> arch mage) or a new character since people invested a lot of time into their mains.
As much as an idea of a mage to archmage conversion is appealing, I just don't see blizzard being able to "balance" so many changes.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20157591 Thu, 13 Mar 2008 08:52:37 EDT Re: WoW Expansion Take 2: Wrath of the Lich King http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20154971 Mike : The last time I checked your character can't change.

You can create a new character. There is an internal debate to have upgradable (mage -> arch mage) or a new character since people invested a lot of time into their mains.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20154971 Wed, 12 Mar 2008 19:31:32 EDT Re: WoW Expansion Take 2: Wrath of the Lich King http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20153726 Dodge :
said by Kenstar15 See Profile :

Hero classes are going to be expansions on your classes and their respected specs.
That would be hillarious. Here is a scenario for you: An ultra-squishi holy raid specced priest unlocks a deathknight. All of a sudden you have a tank/dps/heal spec in cloth? Or unlocking a deathknight will let the priest put on plate, respec to disc/holy and just go rape everyone? Or better yet let's all pause and summon a mental image of a warlock in plate.

I don't know where you got that idea, but it does not seem like game mechanics can support it.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20153726 Wed, 12 Mar 2008 16:06:07 EDT Re: WoW Expansion Take 2: Wrath of the Lich King http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20148386 Archivis :
said by Kenstar15 See Profile :

Hero classes are going to be expansions on your classes and their respected specs.
Can I get a link to this blatant lie?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20148386 Tue, 11 Mar 2008 19:00:55 EDT Re: WoW Expansion Take 2: Wrath of the Lich King http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20148240 Thaler :
said by Kenstar15 See Profile :

Hero classes are going to be expansions on your classes and their respected specs.
Last I read Blizzard's connotations, the Death Knight is Blizzard's first "hero" class, but its not an expansion by any means. It is literally a new character, and its mechanics will play similar to a Tank/DPS. (We could always use more classes that can tank, and it evens up the numbers so that there's 4 tank classes, and 4 healing classes)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20148240 Tue, 11 Mar 2008 18:32:55 EDT Re: WoW Expansion Take 2: Wrath of the Lich King http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20147873 Kenstar15 : Hero classes are going to be expansions on your classes and their respected specs. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20147873 Tue, 11 Mar 2008 17:22:00 EDT Re: WoW Expansion Take 2: Wrath of the Lich King http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19885191 Don69Fire : i heard from some friends that went to blizz con that there will be like a bunch of quests you will have to do to unlock it....]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19885191 Sun, 27 Jan 2008 18:48:36 EDT Re: WoW Expansion Take 2: Wrath of the Lich King http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19755704 Thaler :
said by Mike See Profile :

A normal hero class is either the ability to upgrade your character to a far better class.

Blizzard is just adding an unlockable class in. There is nothing heroic about it. It's just marketing speak.
Eh...it seems like "hero" classes are just going to be unlockable "regular" classes. (ie. see Death Knight) Otherwise, Blizzard would have to:

A.) Release a simultaneous crapton of hero classes so that every John, Dick, and Harry can upgrade their toon.
B.) Deal with the legendary amounts of QQ from players of "out-heroed" classes without any upgrade routes available.

...or just deal with the 1-2 unlockable "hero" classes they have developed...with the only thing heroic being the level creation advantage they get.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19755704 Mon, 07 Jan 2008 14:57:56 EDT Re: WoW Expansion Take 2: Wrath of the Lich King http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19755458 Abu :
said by Mike See Profile :

Blizzard is just adding an unlockable class in. There is nothing heroic about it. It's just marketing speak.
No, I'm fairly certain the term "hero class" refers to classes based on hero units from Warcraft III. The Death Knight is one of the Undead's four heroes.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19755458 Mon, 07 Jan 2008 14:20:09 EDT Re: WoW Expansion Take 2: Wrath of the Lich King http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19469646 Mike : A normal hero class is either the ability to upgrade your character to a far better class.

Blizzard is just adding an unlockable class in. There is nothing heroic about it. It's just marketing speak.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19469646 Sun, 18 Nov 2007 22:41:51 EDT Re: WoW Expansion Take 2: Wrath of the Lich King http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19468815 40778815 : wtf is a hero class
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»www.worldofwarcraft.com/new-hp/i···rans.gif

As of this week it has been 3 months since the announcement of Wrath. I'm pretty sure the "freezing" began as soon as the announcement was added to the site. If (and of course this is all a big IF) this trend continues:

25% - August 07
50% - November 07
75% - February 08
100% - May 08

Does the 100% signify the release or just the start of Beta? It's kind of tough to say... though the TBC beta did last roughly 3 months, so theoretically it could mean that 75% refers to the beta, and 100% the release...

»www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=2141.0]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19390125 Mon, 05 Nov 2007 21:48:38 EDT Re: WoW Expansion Take 2: Wrath of the Lich King http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19372063 skyroket : Sign me up!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19372063 Fri, 02 Nov 2007 17:08:16 EDT Re: WoW Expansion Take 2: Wrath of the Lich King http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19370003 Thaler :
said by Archivis See Profile :

Can you QQ more my way? My car needs a wash.
*shrugs* I'm just saying things are getting pretty screwed up when a genre game is getting lazily lackluster in one of its primary genre-defining departments.

I mean, without immersive environments, then any game will do in place of WoW.

You want strategy? Play any multiplayer RTS.
You want fast action? Play any multiplayer FPS.
You want puzzles? Play any flash puzzle game.

I mean, without some kind of underlying storyline holding things together, WoW would simply be a monthly subscription version of Second Life.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19370003 Fri, 02 Nov 2007 11:46:00 EDT Re: WoW Expansion Take 2: Wrath of the Lich King http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19369942 Mike : tears and request for tears won't be tolerated]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19369942 Fri, 02 Nov 2007 11:34:49 EDT Re: WoW Expansion Take 2: Wrath of the Lich King http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19369769 Archivis : Can you QQ more my way? My car needs a wash.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19369769 Fri, 02 Nov 2007 11:01:44 EDT Re: WoW Expansion Take 2: Wrath of the Lich King http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19369448 Thaler : They implimented PvP, and so have many MMORPGs. I mean, once you reduce each game literally to "do objective A to get reward B", then all the games are the exact same.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19369448 Fri, 02 Nov 2007 09:50:27 EDT Re: WoW Expansion Take 2: Wrath of the Lich King http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19369064 chaud : PvP.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19369064 Fri, 02 Nov 2007 08:21:01 EDT Re: WoW Expansion Take 2: Wrath of the Lich King http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19367906 Thaler :
said by chaud See Profile :

I don't read quest text, just wowhead coords and do it. I don't need a reason behind things. To each his own I guess.
Then wouldn't any MMORPG do then? If you're not taking the time to absorb/read/involve any of the journey, how could WoW be any different (aside from graphically) than EverQuest?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19367906 Thu, 01 Nov 2007 23:38:28 EDT Re: WoW Expansion Take 2: Wrath of the Lich King http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19367879 Thaler :
said by Mike See Profile :

If that were the case you would have quit already since blizzard butchered the lore pretty good for game content.
No, there's still a significant smattering...but TBC really started punching holes in the "stretching it thin" department. Not to mention the deaths of significant Warcraft characters...one of which had a TON of character/plot development...only to be turned into a loot pinyata.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19367879 Thu, 01 Nov 2007 23:33:39 EDT Re: WoW Expansion Take 2: Wrath of the Lich King http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19367215 Mike : If that were the case you would have quit already since blizzard butchered the lore pretty good for game content.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19367215 Thu, 01 Nov 2007 21:42:00 EDT Re: WoW Expansion Take 2: Wrath of the Lich King http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19366888 chaud :
said by Thaler See Profile :

said by chaud See Profile :

I think I'd quit then. Having a game where there's no rhyme or reason to things leaves you with no motivation to play. Killing NPC X "because we told you to" leaves you with a really shallow and crappy game experience.
I don't read quest text, just wowhead coords and do it. I don't need a reason behind things. To each his own I guess. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19366888 Thu, 01 Nov 2007 20:46:22 EDT Re: WoW Expansion Take 2: Wrath of the Lich King http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19366848 Thaler :
said by chaud See Profile :

said by Thaler See Profile :

Somehow I get the feeling that things will degrade to a "lol, lore?" status by the release of the second expansion.
One can only hope. :p
I think I'd quit then. Having a game where there's no rhyme or reason to things leaves you with no motivation to play. Killing NPC X "because we told you to" leaves you with a really shallow and crappy game experience.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19366848 Thu, 01 Nov 2007 20:41:00 EDT Re: WoW Expansion Take 2: Wrath of the Lich King http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19366768 chaud :
said by Thaler See Profile :

Somehow I get the feeling that things will degrade to a "lol, lore?" status by the release of the second expansion.
One can only hope. :p]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19366768 Thu, 01 Nov 2007 20:28:59 EDT Re: WoW Expansion Take 2: Wrath of the Lich King http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19366603 Thaler :
said by chaud See Profile :

»www.worldofwarcraft.com/wrath/fe···?rhtml=y
They really should take the whole "Looking for lore" section and jam it down the crapper. Plotholes have just been increasing exponentially since release to the point where entire segments of necessary plot are simply nonexistent.

I'm not an RPer by any means, but I do like reading storyline and piecing things together. Somehow I get the feeling that things will degrade to a "lol, lore?" status by the release of the second expansion.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19366603 Thu, 01 Nov 2007 19:58:06 EDT Re: WoW Expansion Take 2: Wrath of the Lich King http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19366237 chaud : »www.worldofwarcraft.com/wrath/fe···?rhtml=y

Since you guys are slack and most likely won't see it forever. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19366237 Thu, 01 Nov 2007 19:04:37 EDT Re: WoW Expansion Take 2: Wrath of the Lich King http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19352651 kc0bbq : Unfortunately, no. There was a replacement for a while but it went offline.

Subscribers are still insanely high, but there's no indication of the turnover leading up to BC, let alone WoTLK.

I'm curious about it, but Blizzard wouldn't care to release that kind of information.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19352651 Tue, 30 Oct 2007 18:14:24 EDT Re: WoW Expansion Take 2: Wrath of the Lich King http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19352145 skyroket : I was trying to demonstrate that the number of subscribers is insanely high. However, all that link says is the number of subscribers was insanely high, and it is my opinion that, 16 months later, the number is probably still around there.

Do we have an updated place that shows subscriber info?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19352145 Tue, 30 Oct 2007 16:41:54 EDT Re: WoW Expansion Take 2: Wrath of the Lich King http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19352133 kc0bbq : mmogchart hasn't been updated in 16 months, what are you trying to demonstrate by linking to it?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19352133 Tue, 30 Oct 2007 16:39:20 EDT Re: WoW Expansion Take 2: Wrath of the Lich King http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19288782 skyroket :
said by PinG PonG :

WoW is getting extremely annoying and most people are going to end up quiting it before Wrath of the Lich King even comes out.
»www.mmogchart.com/Chart1.html]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19288782 Fri, 19 Oct 2007 16:17:09 EDT Re: WoW Expansion Take 2: Wrath of the Lich King http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19288192 Thaler : keylogger]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19288192 Fri, 19 Oct 2007 14:46:37 EDT Re: WoW Expansion Take 2: Wrath of the Lich King http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19288029 Archivis : I've been writing to you guys for months. When are you going to start offering night elf tram cybering services? Is this the kind of lack of customer service you want to show to your new customers?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19288029 Fri, 19 Oct 2007 14:22:06 EDT Re: WoW Expansion Take 2: Wrath of the Lich King http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19287220 Archivis : Getting annoying to you. According to Blizzard, they have more members than ever.

World > You
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Forest troll regenerate their body parts]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19258429 Mon, 15 Oct 2007 02:49:25 EDT Re: WoW Expansion Take 2: Wrath of the Lich King http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19258406 Thaler : Oh...I don't know...maybe...MOUNT HYJAL? We go back in time to bail out timelines being altered...yet on the mountain, there isn't a single dragonflight mucking with anything. While the concept of fighting alongside Thrall/Jaina/etc. is awesome...it seems like the entire setup to do so was thrown out the f%*@ing window.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19258406 Mon, 15 Oct 2007 02:33:34 EDT Re: WoW Expansion Take 2: Wrath of the Lich King http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19245282 skyroket : I mean...I heard the lore junkies were pissed about Draeni being added..... is there other crap they messed up? I thought pretty much they could do whatever they wanted if they were venturing outside the RTS-game storyline (WTB Jaina and her water elemental).]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19245282 Fri, 12 Oct 2007 18:23:06 EDT Re: WoW Expansion Take 2: Wrath of the Lich King http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19245224 Mike : If you become a lore junkie you learn to hate blizzard with a passion. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19245224 Fri, 12 Oct 2007 18:12:58 EDT Re: WoW Expansion Take 2: Wrath of the Lich King http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19245200 skyroket : Maybe I'll turn into one of those lore junkies. You're not a lore junkie are you?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19245200 Fri, 12 Oct 2007 18:10:09 EDT Re: WoW Expansion Take 2: Wrath of the Lich King http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19243615 Archivis : I care not about loot. I just like seeing the content. Loot is a means, not an end.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19243615 Fri, 12 Oct 2007 14:14:41 EDT Re: WoW Expansion Take 2: Wrath of the Lich King http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19242971 skyroket : I did BC beta to 70 and some instances and burned myself out and quit at 63 (Zangarmarsh blah helped...) when it launched. One of the main reasons was because all the hard work we put into getting through Naxx was flushed down the toilet with the ease of obtaining similar gear at level 70.

Am I wrong to look at the news of another expansion thinking I can just jump right back in at level 80 and get better gear than what I skipped over at 70 in BC? (I have access to get into a hardcore raid group if I feel like it)

If so, is it wrong to snicker under my breath at all the other people who ground out level 70 instances to gear up? Or do I just realize that it's just a game, and you're just supposed to walk through and look at all the pretty colors - and I completely skipped the pretty colors...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19242971 Fri, 12 Oct 2007 12:53:58 EDT Re: WoW Expansion Take 2: Wrath of the Lich King http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19219385 Mike : If there was a date announced about every web forum would explode. Nothing yet. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19219385 Mon, 08 Oct 2007 19:15:51 EDT Re: WoW Expansion Take 2: Wrath of the Lich King http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19218240 Ozzie4 : I've been off for a few months, and it's been relaxing. Of course, coming back last night people are talking about the expansion. Someone said they heard a date of Halloween, 2008. Anyone seen even a suggestion of an officialish date yet?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19218240 Mon, 08 Oct 2007 15:26:54 EDT Re: WoW Expansion Take 2: Wrath of the Lich King http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19054946 Mike : the first time you would need fire gear from a blacksmith is... well never really.

you need frost plate / leather (bear) for hydross.

lock fire resist for leotheras.

fire plate / leather for illidan. You get the heroic badge set anyhow.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19054946 Tue, 11 Sep 2007 17:11:28 EDT Re: WoW Expansion Take 2: Wrath of the Lich King http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19054828 footballdude : Being unfamiliar with SSC and only partly familiar with TK, I'd say the best thing they could do to make those instances a little more accessible is nerf the fire and frost damage some. A well geared tank has to make friends with a blacksmith and acquire frost resistance gear and fire resistance gear before he can take on SSC & TK (or so I've heard). Make it accessible for tanks in T4 so that anyone that's killed Gruul can expect to do well.
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said by footballdude See Profile :

said by Tehuno See Profile :

If they do nerf ssc/tk more, it cant be much, or else they will completely trivialize it.
It will be completely trivialized when the expansion comes out anyway. Might as well give people to chance to experience it before that happens.
They already gave people the chance to experience it when they removed attunements, which is a great idea IMO. People deserve to see the non-watered down version, and not just loot pinatas(example: the original romulo and juliet vs what we have now). remove about 10-15% of the bosses hp, and leave everything else alone, and i think that would be fair. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19054240 Tue, 11 Sep 2007 15:35:13 EDT Re: WoW Expansion Take 2: Wrath of the Lich King http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19053530 footballdude :
said by Tehuno See Profile :

If they do nerf ssc/tk more, it cant be much, or else they will completely trivialize it.
It will be completely trivialized when the expansion comes out anyway. Might as well give people to chance to experience it before that happens.
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If they do nerf ssc/tk more, it cant be much, or else they will completely trivialize it. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19053429 Tue, 11 Sep 2007 13:35:48 EDT Re: WoW Expansion Take 2: Wrath of the Lich King http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19053184 footballdude : My guess would be that Blizz will sneak in a few nerfs to SSC and TK over the next year so that more people will be able to work through them. I'm sure they'd like to see a significant number of players in the Black Temple before the expansion comes out. Look at how they're trying to restore Naxx. They wouldn't want to make the same mistake with BT.
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said by Archivis See Profile :

And everyone else, keep on posting like you're an expert. Everyone said the same shit when the expansion didn't come out for Christmas (Oh, they're going to lose so much).
LOL, Blizzard will seriously need to invest in some huge new content for everyone (aside from telling people to roll alts and/or PvP), or people will just stop playing with a year+ of the same old thing. Hell, even I'll get bored with WoW in half that time without something new to do. I'd likely just retire my account until Blizzard learns WTF-to-do and releases the actual expansion content. Many are already finding the expansion monotonous (easily the #1 complaint I hear from friends...Blizzard's saving grace is that there hasn't been a good game released to compete with their product), so that'll be a lot of lost revenue as customers suspend their accounts.

said by Archivis See Profile :

People will lap it up, Blizzard will make more cash than it already is and your comments, boasted as expertise, will have been long forgotten.
Provided that there isn't a good game released in the next year, yeah...Blizzard will begin raking it in again as people renew their accounts when the expansion comes out. Granted, they won't be doing so well as characters retire from boredom up until that point...but yeah, the expansion should be a real boon to Blizzard.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19053006 Tue, 11 Sep 2007 12:18:49 EDT Re: WoW Expansion Take 2: Wrath of the Lich King http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19052878 Archivis : Learn to decimal point, slapnuts. Go reread his post.

And everyone else, keep on posting like you're an expert. Everyone said the same shit when the expansion didn't come out for Christmas (Oh, they're going to lose so much).

People will lap it up, Blizzard will make more cash than it already is and your comments, boasted as expertise, will have been long forgotten.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19052878 Tue, 11 Sep 2007 12:03:32 EDT Re: WoW Expansion Take 2: Wrath of the Lich King http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19052816 anon : 5% in BT ? your dreaming.
1% is probably correct

I think that most of the "non hard core" will max reach SSC and the Eye.

Extension must be released before june 2008 - else most casual will leave the game.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19052816 Tue, 11 Sep 2007 11:55:58 EDT Re: WoW Expansion Take 2: Wrath of the Lich King http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19051313 Thaler :
said by Mike See Profile :

You sure?

.05% in black temple. Still plenty of time for others to catch up.
There was just about as much Naxx clearers back then as there are BT/Hyjal clearers now...probably even more T6 clearers now. To have the game "locked in" for that difficulty for an additional year (and then some) would just make the game boring for a growing audience of players.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19051313 Tue, 11 Sep 2007 02:32:33 EDT Re: WoW Expansion Take 2: Wrath of the Lich King http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19048682 Mike : You sure?

.05% in black temple. Still plenty of time for others to catch up.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19048682 Mon, 10 Sep 2007 18:40:22 EDT Re: WoW Expansion Take 2: Wrath of the Lich King http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19045533 Thaler :
said by Mike See Profile :

2 more patches before expansion. plenty of time.
Er...November 08 is over a year away, if that Gamestop prediction was correct. If there's only two patches released over that period of time...well damn, things would get stagnant.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19045533 Mon, 10 Sep 2007 10:06:11 EDT Re: WoW Expansion Take 2: Wrath of the Lich King http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19044535 Mike : 2 more patches before expansion. plenty of time.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19044535 Mon, 10 Sep 2007 02:36:31 EDT Re: WoW Expansion Take 2: Wrath of the Lich King http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19044371 Thaler :
said by sbyte2 See Profile :

Gamestop says November 11 2008
*laughs* People will get soo bored to tears if there's that much a holdup.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19044371 Mon, 10 Sep 2007 01:23:07 EDT Re: WoW Expansion Take 2: Wrath of the Lich King http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19040374 sbyte2 : Gamestop says November 11 2008]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19040374 Sun, 09 Sep 2007 12:08:04 EDT Re: WoW Expansion Take 2: Wrath of the Lich King http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19017612 Don69Fire : there was about 4 or 5 from my guild on duskwood that went to blizzcon and some of them got to play on the new expansion some. they said it is going to be even better than BC. and the new death knight was awsome playing.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19017612 Wed, 05 Sep 2007 18:49:35 EDT Re: WoW Expansion Take 2: Wrath of the Lich King http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19017288 kingdome74 : Let me guess... alliance?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19017288 Wed, 05 Sep 2007 17:50:49 EDT Re: WoW Expansion Take 2: Wrath of the Lich King http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19015923 IamGimli :
said by kingdome74 See Profile :

Of course why test this release... it's not like they did much on the others.
Just because it's not currently in beta doesn't mean it'll never be. There is no release date announced yet, wtf do you expect?

Why test it when it's not even developed?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19015923 Wed, 05 Sep 2007 14:40:26 EDT Re: WoW Expansion Take 2: Wrath of the Lich King http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18993371 kingdome74 : Of course why test this release... it's not like they did much on the others.
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In the cold, harsh northlands...

The Lich King Arthas has set in motion events that could lead to the extinction of all life on Azeroth. With the armies of the undead and the necromantic power of the plague threatening to sweep across the land, only the mightiest heroes can oppose the Lich King's will and end his reign of terror for all time.

Blizzard Entertainment's latest expansion to World of Warcraft – Wrath of the Lich King – adds a host of epic content to the existing game world. Players will achieve soaring levels of power, explore a vast new continent, and battle other high-level heroes to determine the fate of Azeroth. As you pit yourself against the dangers of the north, prepare to:
Features

* Master the necromantic powers of the Death Knight - World of Warcraft's first Hero class.
* Quest to level 80, gaining potent new abilities and talents along the way.
* Learn the craft of spell augmentation with the new Inscription profession.
* Brave the harsh new continent of Northrend, the icy domain of the Lich King.
* Engage in epic siege warfare, deploying mighty siege engines to lay waste to destructible buildings in your path.
* Transform your hero's look with new character-customization options, including new hairstyles and dances.
* Explore perilous new dungeons filled with some of the deadliest creatures -- and greatest treasures -- on Azeroth.
* And much, much more...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18806581 Fri, 03 Aug 2007 22:02:53 EDT