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| Only if you're a criminal !
This hysteria about wire tapping is for clueless sheep. If you ain't a criminal you got nothing to worry about. If you are then you're butt is toast. |
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  cabana now in peppermint Assistant join:2000-07-07 New York, NY | Then mr.buyAclue if you have nothing to hide-- why are you posting anon  |
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  ColorBASIC 8-bit Fun Premium join:2006-12-29 Corona, CA | Oh, SNAP! |
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| reply to cabana said by cabana :Then mr.buyAclue if you have nothing to hide-- why are you posting anon Crack that whip!  -- Think outside the Fox... Opera |
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| reply to buyAclue Gee, I wonder if they keep listening when somebody calls a sex hotline?
"My name is Mohammed."
"Hi, sexy."
"Are you wearing Veil?"
"Huh?"
"Death to you! Death to America! Praisa Allah!!!"
"Sorry, boy, go wash you feet and wait till you get my bill for $99! Hope Allah has money!"
"Infidel woman. They should cut off head."
"Now we are up to $200. It's okay, I'm used to talking to guys that probably have like a pencil size anyway."
"Dea...."
"Your call has been disconnected. Please call the FBI to get your phone unblocked. We accept Visa and Mastercard. Thank you for your stupidity."
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| reply to buyAclue said by buyAclue :
This hysteria about wire tapping is for clueless sheep. If you ain't a criminal you got nothing to worry about. If you are then you're butt is toast. said like a good member of the KGB. |
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join:2003-01-14 Riverside, CA | reply to buyAclue If I am not a criminal, then why am I being wire tapped? |
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| reply to buyAclue said by buyAclue :
This hysteria about wire tapping is for clueless sheep. If you ain't a criminal you got nothing to worry about. If you are then you're butt is toast. Only clueless sheep buy into and believe this BS propaganda.
The days of innocent until prov-en' guilty is long gone and done away with.
Now it is. You are guilty, all we need is one single shred of evidence to convict you and classify one as a felon and terrorist. We the government have the national security act to claim anyone we want as a threat to national security, then one is f**ked for life. One will have all rights stripped away forever and neither will one be afforded a due process of law, one will be toast indeed.
Not only is the 2nd Amendment under attack, as never before. Joining it as well is the 1st Amendment also.
All credit is due Spy1 for his time and research on the following articles, and for bringing this into the light for close inspection. Thank you Spy 1, all Americans should read these articles.
Biatch, pizz and moan all one wants, that this is a copy & paste job, it is, however, nothing is claimed as my opinion, work or research. In fact its new laws or in committee. Scary reading to say the least.
quote: »www.hftonline.com/forum/showthre···?t=18271
Bush wants terrorism law "updated"
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Bush wants terrorism law updated By DEB RIECHMANN, Associated Press Writer 8 minutes ago
President Bush wants Congress to modernize a law that governs how intelligence agencies monitor the communications of suspected terrorists.
"This law is badly out of date," Bush said Saturday in his weekly radio address.
The Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, or FISA, provides a legal foundation that allows information about terrorists' communications to be collected without violating civil liberties.
Democrats want to ensure that any changes do not give the executive branch unfettered surveillance powers.
Bush noted that terrorists now use disposable cell phones and the Internet to communicate, recruit operatives and plan attacks; such tools were not available when FISA passed nearly 30 years ago. He also cited a recently released intelligence estimate that concluded al-Qaida is using its growing strength in the Middle East to plot attacks on U.S. soil.
"Our intelligence community warns that under the current statute, we are missing a significant amount of foreign intelligence that we should be collecting to protect our country," Bush said. "Congress needs to act immediately to pass this bill, so that our national security professionals can close intelligence gaps and provide critical warning time for our country."
Sen. Russ Feingold, D-Wis., said Bush was trying to exploit the threat from al-Qaida to push the bill. Feingold said the measure was an "egregious power grab that includes broad new powers that have nothing to do with bringing FISA up to date."
more »www.hftonline.com/forum/showthre···?t=18261
»www.hftonline.com/forum/showthre···?t=18256
National Network of "Fusion Centers"
Spotlight on "National Network" of Fusion Centers EPIC's current Spotlight on Surveillance reviews "fusion centers," data sharing entities that acquire information from many sources, including private sector firms and anonymous tipsters. The Department of Homeland Security is seeking to create a national network of local and state fusion centers. The federal agency has provided more than $380 million to state and local governments in support of these centers. The fusion center program gives DHS enormous domestic surveillance powers. Spotlight on Surveillance on Fusion Centers ( »www.epic.org/privacy/surveill...···ht/0607/ ) and EPIC's Fusion Centers page ( »www.epic.org/privacy/fusion/ ). (July 26)
»www.hftonline.com/forum/showthre···?t=18262
»www.hftonline.com/forum/showthre···?t=18212 "Hate Crimes" legislation tacked-on to un-related bill! CA Senate vote on anti-faith hate crimes legislation is imminent. Senators Ted Kennedy (D-Mass.) and Gordon Smith (R-Ore.) attached the controversial amendment to a Defense Reauthorization bill -- sneaking the bill onto the floor of the Senate. Such legislation would put Christian beliefs on marriage in direct conflict with federal law -- leading to the criminalization of Christianity. Read Liberty Counsels extensive brief on the dangers of hate crimes legislation . »www.lc.org/attachments/hatecrime···2005.pdf
Please read the pdf!
If you don't want this legislation passed, you need to get on the phone and on your FAX machines:
»www.theorator.com/senate.html ALL kinds of "speech" are under attack, both through regulation and legislation:
"Bill Would Expand FCC Authority to Regulate Speech
The Senate Commerce Committee today passed legislation that would authorize the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) to punish broadcasters for single "fleeting" utterances of common expletives. The Protecting Children from Indecent Programming Act would effectively negate a recent ruling by a federal appeals court, which found the FCC's policy of punishing "fleeting expletives" to be unlawful. CDT opposes the legislation, which seeks to expand the FCC's authority to regulate speech at a time when the legal basis for that authority is diminishing in the face of convergence and evolving user empowerment technology. July 19, 2007
PolicyBeta: Broadcast Indecency Bill July 17, 2007
»blog.cdt.org/2007/07/17/bill-...···ulation/
All threads »www.hftonline.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=9
And of course a few words from this Countries Founding Fathers. Government, not the people, to be held suspect. The words of the Founding Fathers reflected the actions they took during the War for Independence. Their view of government was one of deep suspicion. The task they set for themselves in establishing a government once they had thrown off the British tyranny was to limit and restrain their own creation.
A couple of Jefferson quotes are both easy to understand and illustrative. "When governments fear the people there is liberty. When the people fear the government there is tyranny" and The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government
Patrick Henry warned during the Virginia Ratifying Convention debates over adoption of the present Constitution:'Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are inevitably ruined
Throughout history the names of tyrants change, not their methods
Day after day, the government is operating more secretive, yet in open defiance of the people who elected them. They no longer fear the people, nor is their fear in their eyes or lies. -- Come on crazy mutant desert men, just because they got Jr. in the car doesn't mean they have Bud on the car. |
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| reply to buyAclue said by buyAclue :
This hysteria about wire tapping is for clueless sheep. If you ain't a criminal you got nothing to worry about. If you are then you're butt is toast. What are you worried about? Are you a pedophile? |
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1 edit | reply to dadkins If I'm having a private conversation about my personal life, I don't think it is right for some idiot government official to be monitoring it. Especially since I am the one paying the bill AND funding the equipment necessary to do so. I say they remove all taxes involved with home phone service if they are going to do that. It's rediculous I am funding someone to screen what I am saying. Many may not agree, but this country is becoming more and more controlling and intrusive, and I do not like it. I have been considering moving to Europe more and more each day. We live in fear everyday because of this terrorist crap, and all the President can come up with is "tap their phones". That is not going to stop them. It might slow them down, but if they are talking in code, then the "system" they use to detect terrorist activities won't work. I myself don't talk on the phone much anyway, but then again, when I do, I don't need someone playing "big brother" if I do. I can't wait until another President resides in office. If you don't like that statement, then screw you too, because I didn't ask you if you did or didn't like it. This topic about our privacy that every American has the right to. It's just like going to a doctor. They need permission in order to release medical records to other people, including other doctors. -- SIPPhone/Gizmo # 17476200648 / PIMPNET Chatline / Ran by Asterisk & Slackware 10.1. |
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| reply to ColorBASIC said by ColorBASIC :Oh, SNAP! Did you really just say that? -- Oh I'm so creative and all my programs are so easy to use ... |
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  PolarBear The bear formerly known as aaron8301 Premium join:2005-01-03 | reply to phattieg I agree 100%. |
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join:2003-06-19 | reply to buyAclue Ahh the most used and most defeated argument in history.
Good to see the 5% of the population that still haven't owned up to it are learning to use a computer. Now start reading. |
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| reply to buyAclue said by buyAclue :
This hysteria about wire tapping is for clueless sheep. If you ain't a criminal you got nothing to worry about. If you are then you're butt is toast. Do you want to bet on that??
There are billions/trillions to be made by tapping into the conversations of the major stock traders & corps. Congress just handed the most corrupt administration we've ever had, the to keys to the cookie jar. |
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1 edit | said by tkdslr :said by buyAclue :
This hysteria about wire tapping is for clueless sheep. If you ain't a criminal you got nothing to worry about. If you are then you're butt is toast. Do you want to bet on that?? There are billions/trillions to be made by tapping into the conversations of the major stock traders & corps. Congress just handed the most corrupt administration we've ever had, the to keys to the cookie jar. While I know some of the Hedge Fund Managers in NY, (aside from Bear Stearns, guess they didn't have an Alpha Theory), I doubt the government cares what the stock traders do. There's no money in that.
Now, the oil in Iraq ... -- Oh I'm so creative and all my programs are so easy to use ... |
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 MichaelWacey OwlSaver Premium join:2005-01-30 Berwyn, PA | reply to buyAclue or a political opponent. |
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| reply to buyAclue This is the mindset the government would LOVE for you to have. Only if you're a criminal, should you be worried. Problem is, it's the government that sets the definition for what's a crime. So for now, you're okay. But someday, your political speech will be ruled a crime and now YOU have something to worry about.
These people will be unable to resist using this to further their own power. It'll become less and less about catching criminals of the drug pushing terrorism variety and more about catching criminals who seem to all be in opposition to the political views of those in power.
It's a dangerous slope we've allowed ourselves to be put onto.
But relax, you're not a criminal. Yet. |
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1 edit | reply to buyAclue What about the simple concept that the founding gathers figured out; it's none of your business.
Living in a free society poses risks. If one of them is the chance of a terrorist attack, I'll assume the risk. It's the least I can do to try and live up to their vision and sacrifice.
We are the sovereigns here, not the government. |
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  jvmorris I Am The Man Who Was Not There. Premium,MVM join:2001-04-03 Reston, VA
| reply to buyAclue said by buyAclue :
This hysteria about wire tapping is for clueless sheep. If you ain't a criminal you got nothing to worry about. If you are then you're butt is toast. Well, let's just run with that for a moment, shall we?
If the Congressmen and Senators who voted for this bill are going to maintain this as their position, would it be asking too much for them to put their pawprints where their mouths are and insert a section stating that all Members of Congress, elected members of the Executive Branch and all (federal-level) political appointees shall hereby waive their Constitutional rights with regards to this Act? I'm sure lots of them have international phones calls. If they're not doing anything wrong, what's the problem? (That was your position, wasn't it?)
The Act comes up for reconsideration within the next six months. That's plenty of time to draft such a Section for the permanent invocation. -- Regards, Joseph V. Morris |
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join:2006-09-03 Marietta, GA | reply to supergirl is this supposed to be funny? or your lame attempt at a really lame joke? |
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