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major marco
Res Firma Mitescere Nescit
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join:2003-02-13
Stepford, CA

Boo hoo, for Johnny

He was caught red handed with his paws in the cookie jar and now we're supposed to feel bad for him because he looks like everyone's favorite grandpa. Whatta crock. White collar criminals should be put into the general population of maximum security prisons where they can room with 6'5", 300 lb. criminals named Bubba. Barring that, I would personally like to see Rigas tarred & feathered followed by being drawn and quartering. Let's bring back punishment from the goold old days for these kind of criminals. I'm more afraid of what criminals with a pen and a briefcase can do than I am of crack dealers with guns.
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N3OGH
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said by major marco:

He was caught red handed with his paws in the cookie jar and now we're supposed to feel bad for him because he looks like everyone's favorite grandpa.
I know plenty of crooked old bastards that look like Mr. Rogers. They're evil as the day is long, and to quote my grandmother, meaner than cat shit.

Can't wait until this guy's in a cell and the lights go out.
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Transmaster
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join:2001-06-20
Cheyenne, WY

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rahvin112

join:2002-05-24
Sandy, UT

reply to major marco
Although what he did was atrocious he doesn't deserve to be housed with violent criminals because he isn't a violent criminal. One of the major problems I have with the prison system in this country is prisoners are housed mainly by the length of their term, not based on the severity or violence involved. Non-violent criminals should never be housed with those that commit violent acts as you are most likely to encourage the individual to be a violent criminal once they get out of prison. The maximum security prisons in this country are havens of gang violence with attempted murders and murders almost every single day simply based on gang affiliation.

Personally I think lifers and violent criminals should be housed in super-max jails and the non-violent offenders should be housed in more open style community prisons.

I'm not saying he doesn't deserve a lengthy term, but I am saying there is no reason to spend all the extra money to house him in a max security prison. Not only that but your idea that somehow he would be abused in prison is wrong on two major levels. Prison rape is wrong. Period. It should never be condoned and it should never be approved of, not in any circumstance. Second, grandpa is old and rich, people will be sucking up to him for financial favors and he could certainly purchase protection if he needed to. In fact he could probably rapidly build the connections he would need to get people killed on the outside if he desired.

He's likely to spend the rest of his life in prison and never see his grandchildren, wife or family again in any meaningful way. That is more punishment than you could inflict on him than senseless violence he might experience in a max security prison. He deserves to spend the rest of his life in a cheap (for the tax payers) facility, which means a minimum security prison. A non-violent prison is also good in the sense that he won't be afflicted with violence that could double or triple his medical costs which the tax payers will be forced to pay. Keep him healthy, deprive him of some important items in his life (freedom of movement and interaction) and you hurt him more than probably anything else.



major marco
Res Firma Mitescere Nescit
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Stepford, CA

said by rahvin112:

He's likely to spend the rest of his life in prison and never see his grandchildren, wife or family again in any meaningful way.
Who are you trying to kid? John Rigas is 82 yrs old and got a sentence of a mere 15 yrs for bilking billions of dollars out of investors. He's lucky if he'll see a year of that time on the inside because I am very sure his legal counsel will come up with creative ways so their client never has to see the inside of a prison.

Secondly, I don't feel bad for criminals who suddenly find God, their consciences and their families after they've been sentenced. If he doesn't get to see his family then too bad so sad. Cry me a river. He should have thought of that before he became a criminal. Let's give John Rigas the same advice he would no doubt have for the average person who was arrested/sentenced for wrongdoing: Don't commit the crime if you cannot do the time.
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AtlGuy

join:2000-10-17
Marietta, GA

reply to rahvin112
Maybe I missed it in the article, but did it say he was going to a maximum security prison? I didn't really read the article but scanned it and saw at the end the mention of one going to one prison, and one to another prison. My thought was that they would go to minimum security prisons.

I know a guy that got convicted for marijuana trafficing and remember him telling me the prison he went to didn't even have a fence around it (federal prison). He said he met politicians, judges, money launderers, etc. there, so I would think the Rigas clan would be living in a prison like that.


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