 GlobalMindDomino Dude, POWER Systems GuyPremium
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Hollywood, FL | reply to batterup
Re: Big government, I'm here to help you. said by batterup:Why do you think government controlled, tax supported broadband is better then free enterprise? I am not sure my point was clear. This isn't about locking out the free enterprise "market controlled" providers from providing service. The point is that if they refuse to, then the municipality should have the right to step up and provide their own. I see nothing wrong with that if the citizenry of that muni is OK with it. I would expect such a thing to go to a town vote before any policy moves forward.
However, the anti-muni contingent seems to think that this is always going to be some power grab by a government. I think such characterization on a broad scale is rather incorrect.
The telcos and other providers simply want to have it all their way, all the time, which is to say they'll decide whether or not to deploy and also they'll lobby for a legal device which makes the municipality entirely dependent on the telco, because they're forbidden from providing access themselves.
In the deal you mention, government interaction did in fact occur if a "deal" was reached by the state to say Verizon must provide service with x-number of guaranteed subs. That constitutes a government action, and government control as well.
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 batterupI Can Not Tell A Lie.Premium
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Netcong, NJ
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| said by GlobalMind:In the deal you mention, government interaction did in fact occur if a "deal" was reached by the state to say Verizon must provide service with x-number of guaranteed subs. That constitutes a government action, and government control as well. The DSL is provided by a business not the government. |
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GlobalMindDomino Dude, POWER Systems GuyPremium
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Hollywood, FL | said by batterup:said by GlobalMind:In the deal you mention, government interaction did in fact occur if a "deal" was reached by the state to say Verizon must provide service with x-number of guaranteed subs. That constitutes a government action, and government control as well. The DSL is provided by a business not the government. Correct but the "deal" was made such that it requires Verizon to act. Thus eliminating Verizon's "right" to select where it provides service. That is indeed government control of commerce.
The idea again, is not to compete with the likes of Verizon but rather to fill the gap left by them deciding to not serve a particular area. If the aim in the PA deal was to have the state say "fine we won't try to offer any service" but in kind require Verizon to offer service, then the muni offering wouldn't be necessary.
So I say again, in a case where all of the commerical providers do not wish to offer service to a particular area then I see no issue with a muni project. If the project is there to undercut the commercial provider then yes I have an issue with that.
This is all a matter of intentions.
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batterupI Can Not Tell A Lie.Premium
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Netcong, NJ Reviews:
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| said by GlobalMind:The idea again, is not to compete with the likes of Verizon but rather to fill the gap left by them deciding to not serve a particular area. The towns will cherry pick and not provide service to rural areas. Keep up the good work 18th and dropping. |
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GlobalMindDomino Dude, POWER Systems GuyPremium
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Hollywood, FL | said by batterup:said by GlobalMind:The idea again, is not to compete with the likes of Verizon but rather to fill the gap left by them deciding to not serve a particular area. The towns will cherry pick and not provide service to rural areas. Keep up the good work 18th and dropping. Well we know Verizon would cherry pick unless forced to do otherwise, and you're saying the towns will too - presumably for the same reason as Verizon, because they can.
So it sounds like we're just all screwed.
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Netcong, NJ Reviews:
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| said by GlobalMind: Well we know Verizon would cherry pick unless forced to do otherwise, and you're saying the towns will too - presumably for the same reason as Verizon, because they can. So it sounds like we're just all screwed. Yes, Ma Bell is dead and yet the people bitch. |
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