techieb0mb
join:2008-02-17
Philippines
| reply to fearziz
Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today
for safa customers there is still a dial tone for that but that does not mean that you can receive inbound call or do out bound calls as well. the main use of the dial tone is to make sure if that jack is working when you are experiencing problems with dsl sync issues. so for your security system i would suggest if you can contact you OEM for that so that they can tell if you it will work with VOIP just in case your going to shift to SAFA. |
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RogerADSL
join:2004-12-10
Lawrenceville, GA | reply to bluepoint951
I think the other reason they dicided to add dial tone on the DSL Direct Line is to give the line a load to reduce corrosion. |
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asjamias
join:2003-11-20
Memphis, TN | reply to techieb0mb
techiebomb,
i can't help notice your location which is Philippines...
are you a local or from somewhere else? |
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Splitpair
Premium
join:2000-07-29
Cow Towne
 ·T-Mobile US
| reply to RogerADSL
said by RogerADSL  :I think the other reason they dicided to add dial tone on the DSL Direct Line is to give the line a load to reduce corrosion. It also helps to prevent the "a pair without battery is the spare pair I need" syndrome. 
Wayne
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Yeah, there's a storm on the loose, sirens in my head
Wrapped up in silence, all circuits are dead
Cannot decode - my whole life spins into a frenzy
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techieb0mb
join:2008-02-17
Philippines | reply to asjamias
Actually i'm working with att here in the philippines. I'm working with dsl residential tech support specifically from the homenetworking dept. I joined the forums so that i can help customers of att even though i'm at home and not working. |
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RogerADSL
join:2004-12-10
Lawrenceville, GA | reply to Splitpair
truedat Wayne!  Being as you work on this stuff, is there anything to the loading the pair to reduce corrosion theory? |
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graysonf
Premium,MVM
join:1999-07-16
Fort Lauderdale, FL
| Or asked another way.
Do alarm companies and other who use dry pairs load theirs or not? Seems to me they must if the anti-corrosion theory is true. Otherwise there would be constant headaches.
I remember when this DSL stuff got started long ago. SDSL was run on dry pairs, unloaded IIRC. I don't seem to remember a rash of failed pairs spreading out all over the place. |
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Splitpair
Premium
join:2000-07-29
Cow Towne
·T-Mobile US
| reply to RogerADSL
said by RogerADSL :truedat Wayne! Being as you work on this stuff, is there anything to the loading the pair to reduce corrosion theory? Supposedly sealing current will keep marginal splices from becoming opens. The problem with that is doing so is a patch the real cure for a marginal splice is to re-splice it not try to weld it with sealing current. Does this apply to SAFA na. In order for sealing current to work current must flow and that is not happening with just battery being applied such as in SAFA.
Wayne
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Yeah, there's a storm on the loose, sirens in my head
Wrapped up in silence, all circuits are dead
Cannot decode - my whole life spins into a frenzy
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asjamias
join:2003-11-20
Memphis, TN
 ·RoadRunner Cable
 ·Time Warner VOIP
·RoadRunner Cable
| reply to techieb0mb
said by techieb0mb :Actually i'm working with att here in the philippines. I'm working with dsl residential tech support specifically from the homenetworking dept. I joined the forums so that i can help customers of att even though i'm at home and not working. so you are a local of the Philippines then? |
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Splitpair
Premium
join:2000-07-29
Cow Towne
·T-Mobile US
4 edits | reply to graysonf
said by graysonf :I remember when this DSL stuff got started long ago. SDSL was run on dry pairs, unloaded IIRC. I don't seem to remember a rash of failed pairs spreading out all over the place. With clean dry copper a lack of battery such as with a dry pair is not a problem add moisture and I don't care if there is battery on there or not there will be a problem.
As to why it's a tossup some CLEC's run battery on xDSL and some do not and I have even seen where one CLEC's ports will have battery one and the next one in sequence will not yet both are workers go figure. My guess is it all depends on which way the weather vane at the provisioning center was pointing that day.
Wayne
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Yeah, there's a storm on the loose, sirens in my head
Wrapped up in silence, all circuits are dead
Cannot decode - my whole life spins into a frenzy
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graysonf
Premium,MVM
join:1999-07-16
Fort Lauderdale, FL | Well, there you go. Thanks for the insight. |
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techieb0mb
join:2008-02-17
Philippines | reply to asjamias
yes that is correct. |
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pdcho
join:2001-12-06
Chicago, IL
| reply to bluepoint951
I am moving from NY to FL.
I called 800 757 6500 to order dry loop DSL several times. All the reps said DSL is not available at my address. But I know my neighbors (both to the left and right) have DSL. I told this to the reps and they tried to set up DSL for me but failed.
Any suggestions? Will getting a dial tone allow me to get DSL? |
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