mikes60
My Paradise
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join:2001-07-31
Boynton Beach, FL
 ·AT&T Southeast
 ·Vonage
| reply to murfster
Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today
VOIP by definition works over your internet connection. So no problem there
I believe your DishNetwork and alarm system need POTS access.
Some alarm systems can be adapted to work over VOIP, but you'd have to check with your alarm company.
Also remember, when your power goes out, you will lose your VOIP, so even though your alarm system probably has a backup battery, it will not be able to call out-- if it can work with VOIP as mentioned above.
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tommy_hlfgr
join:2003-01-13
Wilsonville, AL
1 edit | reply to bluepoint951
I have a VERY unique situation and I bet more users come out of the woodwork that are in similar situations. About 18 months ago Bellsouth started blocking ports on residential DSL and that bothered me so I swapped my home telephone over to a small business line. Now I want to get naked DSL well of course the small business sale people have no clue what that is. They tried to sell me an aircard or wild blue. I had to explain to them over and over what it was I really wanted. I was transferred all over the place and got the same answer each time "There is no such product for the business customer" Does anyone know if this will become avialable for businesss customers?
I know I have to option to swap back to residential service but I run and exchange server at home and I can't do that on residential. |
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av8r
I'd Rather Be Flying
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join:2002-06-14
Boca Raton, FL
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| Not so unique. I spoke with the Business division this morning. There is no option to get dry DSL and maintain the business class service. I have Extreme 6, with 60 IP addresses assigned, the best they can do is cut me down to a basic business line ($31 about $8 in taxes). My DSL is on the fax number anyway, and faxing on VoIP is iffy at best. |
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Mizzat
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join:2003-05-03
Atlanta, GA
·AT&T Southeast
| reply to mikes60
said by mikes60  :VOIP by definition works over your internet connection. So no problem there I believe your DishNetwork and alarm system need POTS access. Some alarm systems can be adapted to work over VOIP, but you'd have to check with your alarm company. Also remember, when your power goes out, you will lose your VOIP, so even though your alarm system probably has a backup battery, it will not be able to call out-- if it can work with VOIP as mentioned above. I have a battery backup on my router, and so if the power goes out, my router stays up. It'll last for at least an hour, and this was with my PC running as well on the same battery backup (1500 Mah) |
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Mizzat
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join:2003-05-03
Atlanta, GA | reply to tommy_hlfgr
You are correct, it is not an option for business customers at this time. It wasn't a condition of the merger. I don't know if it will be coming out, but I have my speculations. |
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dot_null
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join:2004-06-28
Kennesaw, GA
·Callcentric
 ·Comcast
·VoiceStick
·AT&T Southeast
| reply to murfster
said by murfster :Man, this is what I'm looking for ... then I thought: uh-oh, how is this going to play with my alarm system and my Dishnetwork. Both of them use the (filtered) POTS. VoIP for both? Anybody have experience using VoIP with your phone-line dependent devices? VoIP should work fine for DishNet. A user here, named digiblur , has made numerous posts to this effect. However, I wouldn't risk using VoIP an alarm system. If necessary, I would even have a cell backup installed.
I know for a fact that at least one nationwide alarm company only approves Comcast Digital Voice as an alternative to a landline, at least in the Atlanta area. |
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mikes60
My Paradise
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join:2001-07-31
Boynton Beach, FL
·AT&T Southeast
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| reply to Mizzat
said by Mizzat :said by mikes60 :VOIP by definition works over your internet connection. So no problem there I believe your DishNetwork and alarm system need POTS access. Some alarm systems can be adapted to work over VOIP, but you'd have to check with your alarm company. Also remember, when your power goes out, you will lose your VOIP, so even though your alarm system probably has a backup battery, it will not be able to call out-- if it can work with VOIP as mentioned above. I have a battery backup on my router, and so if the power goes out, my router stays up. It'll last for at least an hour, and this was with my PC running as well on the same battery backup (1500 Mah) I actually have two seperate battery backups that keep almost everything computer related running- for a while. And also a generator in case of another hurricane here in South Florida.
But, for just a general power outage, an hour goes by pretty fast. There's always my Blackberry.
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ropeguru
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join:2001-01-25
Bridgeport, WV
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2 edits | said by mikes60
But, for just a general power outage, an hour goes by pretty fast. There's always my Blackberry.
What I have in that case is my VT line fails over to my cell phone. So I never really miss any calls regardless.
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mikes60
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Boynton Beach, FL
·AT&T Southeast
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| said by ropeguru :said by mikes60
But, for just a general power outage, an hour goes by pretty fast. There's always my Blackberry.
[/BQUOTE :What I have in that case is my VT line fails over to my cell phone. So I never really miss any calls regardless. That works. The truth is I can't remember the last time I gave anyone my landline number. I automatically just give out my cell (Blackberry) number. --
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lddgnz
join:2007-07-31
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Hi, I placed an order for this AT&T STand ALone Dsl service, was given a confirmation number and was told that the DSL modem and everything will be shipped to my house. It's been a week and I have received nothing so I call back to check the Status but no one could find any order number...most of the reps don't even know about this Standalone DSL service. I have been transferred over to seven different departments but to this point no one could help me. I live in state of GA. Can anyone provide me the 1-800 number to call where I can get assistance regarding this Standalone DSL service? Thanks. |
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tommy_hlfgr
join:2003-01-13
Wilsonville, AL
| reply to Mizzat
So what are your speculations?
To me it makes more sense to offer to business customers than to residential because businesses in some cases need multiple DLS connections but AT&T doesn't want to loose that revenue from the POTS service so maybe they won't offer it.
Personally if I move into an are that offers cable modems I will dump AT&T altogher simply because I hate paying for the POTS that I don't use. If they want to be competitive with cable that have to realize that people chose cable over DSL because of that. Not to mention Charter who is the main cable provider in my area doens't block any ports and AT&T does. |
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MuscogeeDave
join:2007-02-17
Columbus, GA
| reply to bluepoint951
I called the number listed in the very first post of this thread and eventually got someone that knew what I was talking about, I say keep trying, your bound to find intelligent life at some point!  |
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NetFixer
Freedom is NOT Free
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join:2004-06-24
Murfreesboro, TN
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·AT&T Southeast
 ·Cingular Wireless
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| reply to bluepoint951
I was able to sign up today for Stand Alone FastAccess DSL Xtrme 3.0. All I had to do was mention bundle 97.
I am pretty sure that I am too far from the MRBOTNMA CO to get a good 3 mbps sync, but I am hoping that there is now an RT close enough to my address for it to actually work.
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Yippz Voip
join:2005-05-04
Atlanta, GA
| reply to mikes60
said by mikes60 :VOIP by definition works over your internet connection. So no problem there I believe your DishNetwork and alarm system need POTS access. Some alarm systems can be adapted to work over VOIP, but you'd have to check with your alarm company. Also remember, when your power goes out, you will lose your VOIP, so even though your alarm system probably has a backup battery, it will not be able to call out-- if it can work with VOIP as mentioned above. I use Vonage with my DSL and DirecTV with no issues whatsoever. I also have a battery backup on my Vonage router so when the power goes out, I have about 2+ hours on my Vonage line as DSL is powered by BS,er, ATT.
Now that you know you can still have voip and DSL without power, let's look at your alarm.
Companies like alarm.com are made specifically for voip lines -- however, many new alarm systems will allow you to toggle IP or dialout -- you may have to have the company flash to newer firmware but with millions of voip customers in the US, alarm companies aren't going to miss hooking those customers up.
Bottom line -- voip works -- bye bye useless dialtone now that we can get BUN97!!!  |
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dot_null
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join:2004-06-28
Kennesaw, GA
·Callcentric
·Comcast
·VoiceStick
·AT&T Southeast
4 edits | reply to bluepoint951
Thought y'all would be interested in seeing the order status page for my account after being placed on BUN97. |
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FAQFixer
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join:2004-06-28
Powder Springs, GA
| reply to Yippz Voip
said by Yippz Voip : Bottom line -- voip works -- bye bye useless dialtone now that we can get BUN97!!! Just curious...how much do you think you will save a month? |
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bluepoint951
join:2001-03-20
Carrollton, TX
 ·Verizon FIOS
·AT&T Southwest
1 edit | reply to dot_null
I guess i did make a find lol.....
My advice to those who are having trouble, to get to an AT&T service rep in AT&T-SE Call 1(888)757.6500,\.
If you are an exisiting customer enter your telephone number, then when the menu begins playing press 0 until you are transfered to a Sales/Customer Service rep.
New customers press option 1 (or star depending on what the message says)
Once you get them on the line tell them you want Bundle 97, if they insist it is not avaliable or requires wireless tell them to look at their "Bundle Matrix" for August 2007 or for them to ask their manager. If they presist that thier are requirements ask for their manager; if promised a call back, be firm and ask for a manager on the spot.
DSL Billing and Customer Serivce is required to transfer customers to Sales/Customer Service for POTS to issue the order to change or setup SAFA.
Key Points:
This Bundle is NEW/REVISED as of August 1st.
There are NO requirements for Wireless, DirecTV, or POTS.
The Bundle is available to ALL customers that are eligible and/or have DSL
The SAFA Line is $15, the bundle gives a $10 credit.
The Bundle requires DSL ULTRA/XTREME 3.0/ XTREME 6.0; LITE is not eligible.
This Bundle is an UNREGULATED service.
This Bundle is for AT&T-SE customers only at the present moment.
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Mizzat
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join:2003-05-03
Atlanta, GA
·AT&T Southeast
| reply to tommy_hlfgr
My speculations are that it will be offered eventually, but not at all for the reasons you mentioned. There are VERY few business customers with just one line and I've seen many customer that already have DSL on multiple lines.
Regarding the BUN96 vs BUN97. I've seen it referenced both ways, but I guess when they do the order they put BUN97 on the account. Both of them are on the promotions matrix. |
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chong67
join:2001-11-18
Jonesboro, GA | Can I do naked DSL now? |
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MuscogeeDave
join:2007-02-17
Columbus, GA | What? |
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