SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today in AT&T Southeast

SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today in AT&T Southeast http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r18822993 en Tue, 02 Dec 2008 16:22:20 EDT Tue, 02 Dec 2008 16:22:20 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20286523 pdcho : I am moving from NY to FL.

I called 800 757 6500 to order dry loop DSL several times. All the reps said DSL is not available at my address. But I know my neighbors (both to the left and right) have DSL. I told this to the reps and they tried to set up DSL for me but failed.

Any suggestions? Will getting a dial tone allow me to get DSL?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20286523 Sat, 05 Apr 2008 09:12:11 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20023479 techieb0mb : yes that is correct. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20023479 Tue, 19 Feb 2008 11:49:08 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20022969 graysonf : Well, there you go. Thanks for the insight.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20022969 Tue, 19 Feb 2008 10:14:43 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20022928 Splitpair :

said by graysonf

:

I remember when this DSL stuff got started long ago. SDSL was run on dry pairs, unloaded IIRC. I don't seem to remember a rash of failed pairs spreading out all over the place.

With clean dry copper a lack of battery such as with a dry pair is not a problem add moisture and I don't care if there is battery on there or not there will be a problem.

As to why it's a tossup some CLEC's run battery on xDSL and some do not and I have even seen where one CLEC's ports will have battery one and the next one in sequence will not yet both are workers go figure. My guess is it all depends on which way the weather vane at the provisioning center was pointing that day.

Wayne
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said by techieb0mb

:

Actually i'm working with att here in the philippines. I'm working with dsl residential tech support specifically from the homenetworking dept. I joined the forums so that i can help customers of att even though i'm at home and not working.

so you are a local of the Philippines then?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20022889 Tue, 19 Feb 2008 09:59:49 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20022879 Splitpair :

said by RogerADSL

:

truedat Wayne! :o Being as you work on this stuff, is there anything to the loading the pair to reduce corrosion theory?

Supposedly sealing current will keep marginal splices from becoming opens. The problem with that is doing so is a patch the real cure for a marginal splice is to re-splice it not try to weld it with sealing current. Does this apply to SAFA na. In order for sealing current to work current must flow and that is not happening with just battery being applied such as in SAFA.

Wayne
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20022879 Tue, 19 Feb 2008 09:59:08 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20022794 graysonf : Or asked another way.

Do alarm companies and other who use dry pairs load theirs or not? Seems to me they must if the anti-corrosion theory is true. Otherwise there would be constant headaches.

I remember when this DSL stuff got started long ago. SDSL was run on dry pairs, unloaded IIRC. I don't seem to remember a rash of failed pairs spreading out all over the place.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20022794 Tue, 19 Feb 2008 09:42:34 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20022726 RogerADSL : truedat Wayne! :o Being as you work on this stuff, is there anything to the loading the pair to reduce corrosion theory?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20022726 Tue, 19 Feb 2008 09:32:05 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20022411 techieb0mb : Actually i'm working with att here in the philippines. I'm working with dsl residential tech support specifically from the homenetworking dept. I joined the forums so that i can help customers of att even though i'm at home and not working. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20022411 Tue, 19 Feb 2008 08:08:56 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20017264 Splitpair :

said by RogerADSL

:

I think the other reason they dicided to add dial tone on the DSL Direct Line is to give the line a load to reduce corrosion.

It also helps to prevent the "a pair without battery is the spare pair I need" syndrome. ;-)

Wayne
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Cannot decode - my whole life spins into a frenzy
]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20017264 Mon, 18 Feb 2008 13:05:32 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20016519 asjamias : techiebomb,
i can't help notice your location which is Philippines...

are you a local or from somewhere else?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20016519 Mon, 18 Feb 2008 11:00:29 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20015987 RogerADSL : I think the other reason they dicided to add dial tone on the DSL Direct Line is to give the line a load to reduce corrosion. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20015987 Mon, 18 Feb 2008 09:03:01 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20011168 techieb0mb : for safa customers there is still a dial tone for that but that does not mean that you can receive inbound call or do out bound calls as well. the main use of the dial tone is to make sure if that jack is working when you are experiencing problems with dsl sync issues. so for your security system i would suggest if you can contact you OEM for that so that they can tell if you it will work with VOIP just in case your going to shift to SAFA. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20011168 Sun, 17 Feb 2008 10:10:41 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20009631 vahighland : I decided to keep my AT&T pots line and DSL. But thanks to this forum, I was able to save almost $21 month by asking for one of the new plans. My total bill with taxes is now $77.55.

When I added up the cost of a stand-alone DSL plus Vonage, it didn't seem worth getting rid of my pots line. Plus I have a Dish Network receiver, fax machine, and security system all hooked up to pots.

Thanks!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20009631 Sat, 16 Feb 2008 22:25:11 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19835730 matt498 : Oh ok, boy you had me confused for a second there. That would be the most logical install.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19835730 Sat, 19 Jan 2008 18:37:26 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19835697 NetFixer :

said by matt498

:

Let me get this straight, you ran a CAT5 cable to the ped? I hope it was meant to be buried. What did the tech say when he came out and saw that?

The pedestal is attached to the outside wall near to my office window. The cat5 cable was run through a sealed hole in the wall near to the pedestal (along with the connection for my Covad dedicated DSL). The AT&T tech said enjoy your new AT&T DSL service.
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said by NetFixer

said by FAQFixer

said by NetFixer

:

With my AT&T Direct DSL circuit, I have dial tone and I can make outbound local calls, but I have been told that is a fluke.

Your order probably just didn't get completed correctly. I wouldn't be suprised if it ends up corrected some day.

Let me get this straight, you ran a CAT5 cable to the ped? I hope it was meant to be buried. What did the tech say when he came out and saw that?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19835636 Sat, 19 Jan 2008 18:19:17 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19830827 NetFixer :

said by FAQFixer

said by NetFixer

:

With my AT&T Direct DSL circuit, I have dial tone and I can make outbound local calls, but I have been told that is a fluke.

Your order probably just didn't get completed correctly. I wouldn't be suprised if it ends up corrected some day.

That would be fine with me as long as they don't screw up the DSL circuit in the process. It took almost a week of calls and emails after I was notified that the circuit was active to find someone who could understand that nobody had been to my location to physically connect the circuit. I did not have (and had never had) an existing POTS service at my current address, and the CAT5 cable that I ran out to the pedestal for this circuit was not connected to anything.
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said by fearziz

:

Hey All,

I have a Security System that isn't monitored but it still needs a dial tone or it will bark at me. I found this out with my Comcast VOIP fiasco. I switched to AT&T Basic LAN & DSL 6.0 Service. Now that they offer the direct service I want to save money and end my phone service. I'm getting two different responses when I call AT&T about a dial tone. It is my understanding that you always have a dial tone for 911 calls. I'm afraid that if disconnect my phone service my dial tone will go away. Is this true? The internet folks say I still get a dial tone and the phone techs say I won't please help!

You will get dial tone however you will not be able to make any calls...including 911.

said by NetFixer

:

With my AT&T Direct DSL circuit, I have dial tone and I can make outbound local calls, but I have been told that is a fluke.

Your order probably just didn't get completed correctly. I wouldn't be suprised if it ends up corrected some day. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19830757 Fri, 18 Jan 2008 20:28:46 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19830327 NetFixer :

said by fearziz

:

I'm getting two different responses when I call AT&T about a dial tone. It is my understanding that you always have a dial tone for 911 calls. I'm afraid that if disconnect my phone service my dial tone will go away. Is this true? The internet folks say I still get a dial tone and the phone techs say I won't please help!

I am surprised that you only got two different answers. ;)

With my AT&T Direct DSL circuit, I have dial tone and I can make outbound local calls, but I have been told that is a fluke. I think the official policy is that you will get a dial tone (because AT&T believes that a true dry circuit is not as reliable), but you will only be able to dial special ANAC test numbers.
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I have a Security System that isn't monitored but it still needs a dial tone or it will bark at me. I found this out with my Comcast VOIP fiasco. I switched to AT&T Basic LAN & DSL 6.0 Service. Now that they offer the direct service I want to save money and end my phone service. I'm getting two different responses when I call AT&T about a dial tone. It is my understanding that you always have a dial tone for 911 calls. I'm afraid that if disconnect my phone service my dial tone will go away. Is this true? The internet folks say I still get a dial tone and the phone techs say I won't please help!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19828915 Fri, 18 Jan 2008 16:03:07 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19628942 anon : On the phone with the service tech now. She seems to think that ordering a stand-alone line will cause my phone number to be cancelled and a new number issued for reference. If you're going to port your number, you'll want to do it before you order the SAFA service.

Additionally, DSL lite is only offered as stand alone in a select few places. I had to upgrade to DSL Ultra to drop the phone line - but I still got a savings of about $19 per month.

It seems that the techs are becoming more educated on the SAFA lines, as I got through to a knowledgeable tech on the first try. Lucky me! ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19628942 Sat, 15 Dec 2007 15:25:05 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19574745 anon : Everyone has been discussing if wireless is required to get Bundle97, but does anyone know what, if any, discounts are applied if you currently ARE a cingular/att wireless customer?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19574745 Thu, 06 Dec 2007 12:55:23 EDT Re: Fastaccess DSL cust. - want to go to SAFA and CallVantage http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19557971 Mizzat : I have good faith that she was telling the truth. Things just might happen on the 11th ;)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19557971 Mon, 03 Dec 2007 21:46:31 EDT Re: Fastaccess DSL cust. - want to go to SAFA and CallVantage http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19557363 anon : it's pretty clearly offered for new residential customers in their terms and conditions at »www.bellsouth.com/consumer/inets···rms.html

when i tried on 12/1 to get the $19.95 plan, the sales rep said there was no dsl direct at that price. when i read her that page she asked her supervisor who claimed it wouldn't be available until the 11th. that seemed like complete bs. the sales rep seemed honest and interested (in receiving her commission if nothing else), but truly unable to do anything as it wasn't in her system and retention/customer service can provide credits, but sales reps and supervisors can't. and of course the customer service people need an account to credit. so good luck. theoretically if you found reps who wanted to honor the terms posted online (crazy idea i know!) you could hold for a customer service rep, get promised a credit, get transfered to sales, sign up for a higher priced account, and get transfered back to service to receive your credit on your new account. i don't have the time.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19557363 Mon, 03 Dec 2007 20:20:20 EDT Re: Fastaccess DSL cust. - want to go to SAFA and CallVantage http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19549369 Mizzat : Well there you go. I thought they already started offering the 768 DSL Direct. I'm not that familiar with residential offers, though. I thought it was for new customer only. Didn't someone already post that?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19549369 Sun, 02 Dec 2007 13:15:21 EDT Re: Fastaccess DSL cust. - want to go to SAFA and CallVantage http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19549350 bluepoint951 : AT&T/Bellsouth Merger Conditions
»www.fcc.gov/ATT_FINALMergerCommi···2-28.pdf

Promoting Accessibility of Broadband Service (Page 3)
Within six months of the Merger Closing Date, and continuing for at least 30 months from the inception of the offer, AT&T/BellSouth will offer to retail consumers in the Wireline Buildout Area, who have not previously subscribed to AT&T's or BellSouth's ADSL service, a broadband Internet access service at a speed of up to 768 Kbps at a monthly rate (exclusive of any applicable taxes and regulatory fees) of $ 10 per month.

ADSL Service (Page 8)
Within twelve months of the Merger Closing Date, AT&T/BellSouth will make available in its in-region territory an ADSL service capable of speeds up to 768 Kbps to ADSL-capable customers without requiring such customers to also purchase circuit switched voice grade telephone service ("Stand Alone 768 Kbps service"). AT&T/BellSouth will continue to offer the 768 Kbps service in a state for thirty months after the "Stand Alone 768 Kbps Implementation Date" for that state. For purposes of this commitment, the "Stand Alone 768 Kbps Implementation Date" for a state shall be the date on which AT&T/BellSouth can offer the Stand Alone 768 Kbps service to eighty percent of the ADSL-capable premises in AT&TBellSouth's in-region territory in that state. The Stand Alone 768 Kbps service will be offered at a rate of not more than $19.95 per month (exclusive of regulatory fees and taxes) . AT&T/BellSouth may make available such services at other speeds at prices that are competitive with the broadband market taken as a whole.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19549350 Sun, 02 Dec 2007 13:10:55 EDT Re: Fastaccess DSL cust. - want to go to SAFA and CallVantage http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19548615 Mizzat :

said by bluepoint951

said by jonathanlord

:

I just signed up for DSL Direct 1.5M (Bundle 97) since I was told that I could not get DSL Direct 768K from the CSR.

I am in Bellsouth Palm Beach, FL territory. Has anyone had any luck getting the DSL Direct 768K in South Florida. If so, are you aware of what I need to ask for?

768k FastAccess DSL Direct has not yet been offered in BST/AT&T-SE Region, per merger guidelines they have until Dec 28th before the must begin offereing the service.

Are you sure? Or were the concessions that they needed to offer naked DSL AND a 768 for $10? Did it say that the 768 for $10 had to be naked?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19548615 Sun, 02 Dec 2007 09:56:34 EDT Re: Fastaccess DSL cust. - want to go to SAFA and CallVantage http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19547755 bluepoint951 :

said by jonathanlord

768k FastAccess DSL Direct has not yet been offered in BST/AT&T-SE Region, per merger guidelines they have until Dec 28th before the must begin offereing the service.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19547755 Sun, 02 Dec 2007 01:12:31 EDT Re: Fastaccess DSL cust. - want to go to SAFA and CallVantage http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19535073 jonathanlord : I just signed up for DSL Direct 1.5M (Bundle 97) since I was told that I could not get DSL Direct 768K from the CSR.

I am in Bellsouth Palm Beach, FL territory. Has anyone had any luck getting the DSL Direct 768K in South Florida. If so, are you aware of what I need to ask for?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19535073 Thu, 29 Nov 2007 21:58:10 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19480161 anon : Thank you so much for this forum! Without all your information and advise I would now be paying a $40 cancellation fee for my new VOIP phone service because some idiot at AT&T told me there was 'no such thing' as stand alone DSL. I googled and found this forum and just called AT&T again and it was 'no problem'. Also the rep I spoke to didn't sound too happy with the idiot who told me that since he realized the company was about to lose me as a DSL customer also. Thanks again.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19480161 Tue, 20 Nov 2007 16:16:55 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19471644 kcir : Yes thanks. I guess you need a system with three nics. Two to the ISP and one on the local network routing/(proxying?)/load balancing between the two. (Assuming it could put individual packets on the separate networks) Sound too costly and painful. :(]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19471644 Mon, 19 Nov 2007 10:57:30 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19471585 logic1977 : If you want two 6.0 SAFA lines, you just need to call ATT and order them. Should be that simple, but you can't make them work as if they are a single 12/1 connection. That would be port bonding and it requires work on your end and the DSLAM side, and it isn't a service that is sold. I'm not sure but it is possible you cold try to find something that will load balance on your end, but I have never tried to research it.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19471585 Mon, 19 Nov 2007 10:46:30 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19471537 kcir : First off I'll admit this is a little off topic. Today, I have 6.0 (former BS area) I have local calling from AT+T mostly only for business meetings at home. However given SAFA instead of Tel+DSL 6.0 I would opt for two SAFA 6.0 DSL lines plus some (free) voip service if such a beast exists for my 5-6 voice meetings a week. Would it be possible to get two 6.0 SAFA lines ? What would I need to make it appear to be a single 12/1 connection to my network? (links to some resources would be fine) What options, even computer based (mic/speakers) would be available to make the voice calls? Thanks. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19471537 Mon, 19 Nov 2007 10:39:45 EDT Re: Fastaccess DSL cust. - want to go to SAFA and CallVantage http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19471113 ropeguru : Thanks for the clarification.. Maybe they should have written in their "for new internet customers only", so that dummies like myself would understand. :D
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said by ropeguru

:

That is pretty funny with the way it is written. It first of all states for "new customers only" then goes on to say that it may affect you discount if you are bundling services.

I wish these lawyer types could explain their own writing as how can you already have a bundled plan if you are a new customer per their definition??

Just goes to prove how ignorant people are in their writing skills.

The "new customer" statement is for internet service. My brother has the Cell/POTS/TV bundle but no internet. If he were to take the new internet plan he would be considered a new internet customer and it would affect the discounts he is receiving on his present bundle. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19471108 Mon, 19 Nov 2007 09:13:16 EDT Re: Fastaccess DSL cust. - want to go to SAFA and CallVantage http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19470925 ropeguru : That is pretty funny with the way it is written. It first of all states for "new customers only" then goes on to say that it may affect you discount if you are bundling services.

I wish these lawyer types could explain their own writing as how can you already have a bundled plan if you are a new customer per their definition??

Just goes to prove how ignorant people are in their writing skills.
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1. FastAccess DSL Customers:

FastAccess DSL Plans
FastAccess DSL Lite: $19.95 per month
FastAccess DSL Ultra: $32.95 per month
FastAccess DSL Xtreme: $37.95 per month
FastAccess DSL Xtreme 6.0: $42.95 per month

FastAccess DSL Direct Plans
FastAccess DSL Direct 768K: $19.95 per month
FastAccess DSL Direct 1.5M: $37.95 per month
FastAccess DSL Direct 3.0M: $42.95 per month
FastAccess DSL Direct 6.0M: $47.95 per month

Pricing for new residential customers only.

If you are receiving a bundle discount, any changes you make to your FastAccess DSL service may affect your discount.

Billing for your FastAccess DSL and any added features will begin when your order is complete, which is typically within five days from the date you placed your order."

It looks like Stand Alone FastAccess is now called FastAccess DSL Direct.

It now looks like you can get any tier of FastAccess DSL without POTS.

I think that this FastAccess DSL Direct 768 for $19.95 is offered now because of the conditions imposed under the FCC merger agreement.

Pricing Terms and Conditions
»www.bellsouth.com/consumer/inets···rms.html]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19470813 Mon, 19 Nov 2007 07:43:05 EDT Re: Fastaccess DSL cust. - want to go to SAFA and CallVantage http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19469044 zapy : I just logged ino my ATT account ad changed sevices. I now see SAFA DSL Lite for 19.95 as an option to switch to. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19469044 Sun, 18 Nov 2007 20:50:44 EDT Re: Fastaccess DSL cust. - want to go to SAFA and CallVantage http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19405523 RogerADSL :

said by Pashune

said by kentuck1163

:

Ok, - believe me I've searched. And talked to CallVantage and Bellsouth (they really haven't integrated into AT&T yet) support people, but I still haven't got a straight answer.

I am currently a bundled BellSouth customer who is using FastAccess Xtreme 3.0 DSL. I'm going through a divorce and want to cut costs.

So, I'm looking at getting Bundle 97 and getting a SAFA line and then signing on with AT&T CallVantage VOIP service.
However, I would like to keep my current phone number. The CallVantage guy says if I order the SAFA line (is that really just the same as a "dry-loop"?) that then I can port my existing number to CallVantage. Things I have read here seem to conflict with that.

PLEASE, can anyone give me a straight answer on what steps I need to take to get to where I want to go: Bundle97 with CallVantage and same phone number.

Thanks,
Mark

I can tell you that it really is a stand alone, dry DSL line, but there will still be a dial-tone present on the line.

Bluepointe posted this awhile ago....

My friend that changed his POTS line to CallVantage did this :

1. Changed Class of Service to 1FR and a Ringmaster Number
2. Changed the Main POTS number to Ringmaster.
3. Port out the Ringmaster to CallVanatage.
4. Change POTS line to SAFA.

Took him about 2 weeks; one thing to keep in mind is that the Change to 1FR RingMaster and the change of the Main Line Number to the RingMaster Number but be completed before LNP can begin, shouldn't take more than 2 business day to have that work done though.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19405523 Thu, 08 Nov 2007 10:34:21 EDT Re: Fastaccess DSL cust. - want to go to SAFA and CallVantage http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19401770 Pashune :

said by kentuck1163

I can tell you that it really is a stand alone, dry DSL line, but there will still be a dial-tone present on the line.
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Wait, what?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19401770 Wed, 07 Nov 2007 18:07:52 EDT Fastaccess DSL cust. - want to go to SAFA and CallVantage http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19400795 kentuck1163 : Ok, - believe me I've searched. And talked to CallVantage and Bellsouth (they really haven't integrated into AT&T yet) support people, but I still haven't got a straight answer.

I am currently a bundled BellSouth customer who is using FastAccess Xtreme 3.0 DSL. I'm going through a divorce and want to cut costs.

So, I'm looking at getting Bundle 97 and getting a SAFA line and then signing on with AT&T CallVantage VOIP service.
However, I would like to keep my current phone number. The CallVantage guy says if I order the SAFA line (is that really just the same as a "dry-loop"?) that then I can port my existing number to CallVantage. Things I have read here seem to conflict with that.

PLEASE, can anyone give me a straight answer on what steps I need to take to get to where I want to go: Bundle97 with CallVantage and same phone number.

Thanks,
Mark]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19400795 Wed, 07 Nov 2007 15:32:11 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19287199 RickGonja : I downgraded to SAFA today. It was very easy I asked for SAFA and the only thing the rep did was let me know about the lack of 911 service. No trying to sell another package. It was quick and painless. :D]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19287199 Fri, 19 Oct 2007 12:12:35 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19229604 dot_null :

said by brandon

:

A downside - I've lost my static IP and I'm not sure it's an available free addon any more for SAFA. Oh well.

You can go here to BellSouth's FastAccess upgrade page to add it back on: »https://www.fastaccess.com/content/consu···eaccount

Just follow the procedure outlined in the »AT&T Southeast Forum FAQ »Can I change my service from dynamic to static IP (or visa versa)? FAQ article to add it back on. I have SAFA on the 6 Mbps plan and I am showing the static IP as a $0.00 addon. I haven't tried to add it on yet (dynamic is fine for me) but it should work. :D]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19229604 Wed, 10 Oct 2007 10:56:40 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19229415 anon : I have a couple of questions. I am in the area that SAFA is being offered so I was going to call about it because I want to switch to Viatalk VOIP with SAFA. However, I see that someone posted to move your phone # before going to SAFA since the line must be active. But if I currently have DSL and a local phone line with AT&T, won't porting my current phone # cutoff my DSL service? How exactly do I go about doing this? Also, is SAFA only offered on the 3.0 and above speeds?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19229415 Wed, 10 Oct 2007 10:19:26 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19216169 Snipes007 : Anyone else get a discount offered when attempting to sign up for SAFA. They offered me a $20 discount to my current DSL plan (for 6 months), which is about the same amount as getting the phone line disconnected. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19216169 Mon, 08 Oct 2007 09:05:35 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19213040 Mizzat :

said by brandon

:

A downside - I've lost my static IP and I'm not sure it's an available free addon any more for SAFA. Oh well.

Mine is the same.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19213040 Sun, 07 Oct 2007 16:39:14 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19211581 brandon : A downside - I've lost my static IP and I'm not sure it's an available free addon any more for SAFA. Oh well.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19211581 Sun, 07 Oct 2007 11:14:53 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19207901 SkyBlue :

said by ZipZilla

:

......

NICE.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19207901 Sat, 06 Oct 2007 15:15:55 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19207627 dot_null : Nope, they'll waive the $5 fee for existing customers too. I had basic local service for a couple of months prior to being placed on BUN97 and my CSR waived the $5 fee for me.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19207627 Sat, 06 Oct 2007 13:58:50 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19207100 ZipZilla : ......

New bill came out today, here is how it looks with the $5 charge. Other observations: ZERO taxes and ZERO fees. YES!

]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19207100 Sat, 06 Oct 2007 11:46:31 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19206618 SkyBlue :

said by ZipZilla

:

wow, you got them to eat the $5 rip-off charge. i wonder if they'll do that for changeovers or just new lines of service like yours

good question I would try and ask them and even maybe threaten to discounect since there is no contract you could always reconnect and negotiate it.

You know I am just telling you what they told me.

Reps do give out wrong info.

If they did I will post it here..

Hope it helps.

Thanks]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19206618 Sat, 06 Oct 2007 09:16:03 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19206204 BF69 :

said by ZipZilla

:

wow, you got them to eat the $5 rip-off charge. i wonder if they'll do that for changeovers or just new lines of service like yours

Charter charges you $10 if you don't have cable TV and Comcast charges you $15. $5 is a deal.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19206204 Sat, 06 Oct 2007 04:55:50 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19205795 ZipZilla : wow, you got them to eat the $5 rip-off charge. i wonder if they'll do that for changeovers or just new lines of service like yours]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19205795 Sat, 06 Oct 2007 01:33:13 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19202984 SkyBlue : I just got SAFA + DSL Xtreme 6.0 for $42.95 a month including the SAFA Line charge $5.00 the rep gave me a a discount on the 6.0 for $37.95 and added the $5.00 SAFA line charge and I am only paying $42.95 for 6.0.

Also they sending me Wireless Router Modem with a $100.00 rebate.

This beats the RoadRunner in my area.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19202984 Fri, 05 Oct 2007 15:48:00 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19201735 Airwolf7 : OK.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19201735 Fri, 05 Oct 2007 12:31:09 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19201478 SkyBlue : This is not for me its for my sister]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19201478 Fri, 05 Oct 2007 11:41:06 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19201470 Airwolf7 : I thought you already had a modem.

»A good DSL modem cheap?

Don't you have FastAccess DSL now?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19201470 Fri, 05 Oct 2007 11:39:55 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19201438 SkyBlue : Does anyone know if you get a free modem wiht SAFA or do you have to pay for it?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19201438 Fri, 05 Oct 2007 11:36:00 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19201426 SkyBlue :

said by tigers

:

I just placed the order. Called and asked for "Standalone Fast Access" and she knew exactly what I wanted. Service will be active as soon as I get a modem.

Really a very smooth process via the phone which is contrast to their very poorly designed website that wanted me to sign up for local and long distance service before I could get DSL.

Did you have to pay for the DSL Modem or did they give it to you for free?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19201426 Fri, 05 Oct 2007 11:33:45 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19201240 RogerADSL : Gerry, the VOIP line "should" work, but the number of problems that can arise are staggering...find someone in that has this same VOIP service and the same DirecTV reciever and ask them if it is working. Sorry for the non-answer. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19201240 Fri, 05 Oct 2007 11:02:20 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19199566 gerryger : My question is if I go with a SAFA and sign up with a VOIP provider will I be able to hook my VOIP telephone line to my DirecTV DVR/Receiver (not TIVO) which according to DirecTV is a requirement.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19199566 Fri, 05 Oct 2007 00:34:38 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19192401 bluepoint951 :

said by letoatrads

:

Here's an odd question for ya -

I jumped on the SAFA BUN97 as soon as I was able to get it in my area. Turns out it was a mistake in my case ( for a number of reasons, not the least of which is the annoyance to family members with the occasional VOIP quirk).

Anybody know the bundle's or deals for going BACK to a stripped down local line ( no LD anything + DSL)? I've seen them offering great deals to keep you from moving to SAFA...so anyone know if these are available for 'new' subscribers?

Check this Thread - Services- New August 1st Bundles

BUN64 - Basic Line + DSL Ultra = $40 + Tax
BUN65 - Caller ID/Call Waiting, Unlimited LD, + DSL Ultra = $50

Both are available On Demand and to new customers or existing customers, most reps will not know of these bundles and insist another package. Tell whomever you know that is wanting to get on of these plans to be firm, they exist. If in doubt as for an Office Manager (don't take a Team Lead or a Supervisor; get a Coach or Office Manager)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19192401 Wed, 03 Oct 2007 20:29:56 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19189673 letoatrads : Here's an odd question for ya -

I jumped on the SAFA BUN97 as soon as I was able to get it in my area. Turns out it was a mistake in my case ( for a number of reasons, not the least of which is the annoyance to family members with the occasional VOIP quirk).

Anybody know the bundle's or deals for going BACK to a stripped down local line ( no LD anything + DSL)? I've seen them offering great deals to keep you from moving to SAFA...so anyone know if these are available for 'new' subscribers?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19189673 Wed, 03 Oct 2007 12:58:07 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19183608 brandon :

said by ZipZilla

:

interestingly enough, the message people get when they tried to call my old landline has changed.

yesterday, it said the line was disconnected

today, it says the line "is not available for incoming calls"

does it change daily on Bundle 97? lol

Mine says not available for incoming calls as well.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19183608 Tue, 02 Oct 2007 13:44:05 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19182536 ZipZilla : interestingly enough, the message people get when they tried to call my old landline has changed.

yesterday, it said the line was disconnected

today, it says the line "is not available for incoming calls"

does it change daily on Bundle 97? lol]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19182536 Tue, 02 Oct 2007 10:24:04 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19179260 ZipZilla : Followup:

The voice line is CUT OFF! YES! BOO YEAH! Naked DSL in effect. Here's how it looks on my online account:

]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19179260 Mon, 01 Oct 2007 19:22:19 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19178451 ZipZilla : Just got off the phone with AT&T/Bellsouth...

Got the $42.95 + $5 for the Standalone Fast Access...took her awhile to look it up, but I'm all set for the voice line to go kaput at midnight.

she worked me over hard, offered free landline service for 6 months, I passed. I would still have to pay the taxes and fees (I'm sure) + I don't want to have to mess with it in 6 months.

Besides, before then, AT&T will probably align former Bellsouth territory Internet pricing with AT&T Yahoo DSL pricing and I'll be calling again.

I just saved at least $20 a month!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19178451 Mon, 01 Oct 2007 17:02:17 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19171602 skycam : I called the number on my ATT monthly bill. I mentioned bundle 97, and they had to look it up. It was no problem they said to do. I just have to make sure my security systme works on voip.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19171602 Sun, 30 Sep 2007 14:06:10 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19170564 ZipZilla : hey skycam

I live near you...what # did you call to get SAFA? I would love to save $23 a month. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19170564 Sun, 30 Sep 2007 10:17:27 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19162167 RogerADSL : BUN97 is unregualted so, no mandatory fees..not sure about state tax in SC, but I don't think it is taxed either. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19162167 Fri, 28 Sep 2007 17:53:33 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19162130 skycam : I just got off the phone talking to ATT about changing to Bundle 97 SAFA. I have the Extreme 6.0 and they quoted the new rate would be $42.95 plus $5.00 for stand alone. Have any of you experienced that you still have to pay taxes and "Mandatory" fees that add another $8.00 in my State which is SC. It still saves me about $23.00 a month for a line that I am not using.

Does anyone have any input?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19162130 Fri, 28 Sep 2007 17:45:11 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19160754 dot_null :

said by ropeguru

:

If you are going with a dry line and using VoIP, you can always tie your ATA back into your phone wiring and do the same thing you are doing now with a regualar line.

... and to expand upon that thought, here is a guide that shows you how to tie the ATA to your internal wiring: »michigantelephone.mi.org/distribute.html

:)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19160754 Fri, 28 Sep 2007 13:55:10 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19160224 huckleberry : magicJack 20.00 yr]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19160224 Fri, 28 Sep 2007 12:32:27 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19146742 ropeguru :

said by chudel

:

Hello,

While all of the "dry line" features sound great - esp. the price, I must admit I just can't give up the ability to have a phone in several rooms, and to be able to yell "pick up the extension" for a group family chat.

Since I have my nid run to a wiring closet in my house, are there any cellphone/distribution panels available? I'd most like to dock my cellphone at home and have it 'feed' the rest of the home's internal phone wiring.

I recall Sprint trying this a few years ago but haven't heard of anything recent.

Thoughts? Suggestions?

If you are going with a dry line and using VoIP, you can always tie your ATA back into your phone wiring and do the same thing you are doing now with a regualar line.

They do make dock stations for certain cell phones to hook a normal analog phone to.. I will see if I can find a link. Haven;t looked at them in a while.

EDIT: I think this is what you are looking for

»www.phonelabs.com/prd05.asp

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While all of the "dry line" features sound great - esp. the price, I must admit I just can't give up the ability to have a phone in several rooms, and to be able to yell "pick up the extension" for a group family chat.

Since I have my nid run to a wiring closet in my house, are there any cellphone/distribution panels available? I'd most like to dock my cellphone at home and have it 'feed' the rest of the home's internal phone wiring.

I recall Sprint trying this a few years ago but haven't heard of anything recent.

Thoughts? Suggestions?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19146597 Wed, 26 Sep 2007 11:06:10 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19142670 ZipZilla : seems you can't get SAFA online....

Dear Zipzilla,

Thank you for contacting AT&T regarding (xxx)xxx-xxxx.

Unfortunately, we will not be able to assist you from this department.
Please call the AT&T Service Center at 1-888-757-6500, option 4, Monday
through Friday, 8:00AM until 7:00PM EST or Saturday 8:00AM until 5:00PM
EST. A Service Representative will be glad to assist you.

Should you need further assistance or have other questions, please reply
back to this e-mail and the AT&T Online Customer Care team will be happy
to help you.

Sincerely,

Andrea
AT&T Online Customer Care]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19142670 Tue, 25 Sep 2007 18:20:36 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19142400 brandon : Was just told by "Sherri" on the phone that this order cannot be placed for bundle 97 without a "promotional code." Calling back...

Edit: Seems like "Laqueshia" is making it happen!

Edit2: HA! So after Laqueshia was making the order very smooth, she had to pass me on to another rep to disconnect the phone service. The conversation was kinda funny:

CSR: "How may I help you today?"

Me: We just finished ordering standalone DSL and need to disconnect the phone service.

CSR: You understand that there is not even 911 service on the standalone DSL? We could offer you a very basic line that has 911 service and the DSL service that would be cheaper than what you're paying for the standalone.

Me: No, that's ok, thank you.

CSR: But you don't think that 911 service is important? What if you have an emergency?

Me: No, I do agree that 911 service is important. (I almost laughed here)

CSR: So you want me to give you the bundle?

Me: No, the standalone DSL is what I want.

CSR: So you want to pay more and not have 911 service?

Me: Exactly.

CSR: Ok...just had to clarify...

Come on, surely these reps have to think that anyone ordering some obscure unadvertised bundle has done their homework on what is offered--in my case, I'm saving a free and clear $20 a month, and getting infinitely more service (Dropping DTV for cable, too). ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19142400 Tue, 25 Sep 2007 17:23:53 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19137583 ZipZilla : Submitted request online to switch to SAFA 6.0...will report back with results. in charleston, sc market. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19137583 Mon, 24 Sep 2007 21:13:07 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19136655 logic1977 : When you ported you number, your dsl was disconnected and that means your port gets put back into a pool for use. It is quite possible that it was reassigned for another user, and when you ordered your safa service, a new port was assigned to you which could require a dispatch to set up, and if the field guys are busy that is why the 5 day delay.

At the time of the port ATT would have no way to know you were going to order service again and there isn't really a way to hold a port. SO you have to start over like a brand new customer.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19136655 Mon, 24 Sep 2007 18:28:50 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19136083 harrijs :

said by ropeguru

:

So, at this point, what would be the best procedure to be able to port a current POTS number that has DSL on it and get SAFA?

I am guessing that one would have to order a seperate SAFA line, then cancel the DSL on the current POTS line, and finally port the POTS number out.

Any thoughts??

I was able to port my number from BS to Teliax without incident. This process took 7 days. When the number was ported (today), my DSL access went away and I called to setup the Bundle 97. BS informed me that it will be Friday before my new service is provisioned. Since I already have all of the equipment, I am going to keep calling to try and get this expedited. I don't understand why it is going to take 5 days to provision service to a location that had service 5 hours ago. For people who are looking to do this down the road, it would be wise to setup the SAFA seperate from your current account, and when it is running, port your number and cancel the other service.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19136083 Mon, 24 Sep 2007 16:44:47 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19135370 Bobkd4dii : Just an update, I guess they have finally figured out what bundle 97 is. I just got off the phone with AT&T and changed over to the "dry line" service. Not saving a huge amount but I like it better in my pocket than theirs. Thanks again to the folks on here who helped me out with this.

Bob
--
The aheader we go, the behinder we get.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19135370 Mon, 24 Sep 2007 14:52:05 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19118363 brandon :

said by lonewolfe38652 :

Does this cover all of Mississippi or is it a few select areas? Cable & DSL is not available where we are, only garbage dial-up here in the boonies.

If DSL isn't available, then standalone DSL isn't available.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19118363 Fri, 21 Sep 2007 11:50:13 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19117971 anon :
Does this cover all of Mississippi or is it a few select areas? Cable & DSL is not available where we are, only garbage dial-up here in the boonies.
]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19117971 Fri, 21 Sep 2007 10:36:08 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19117803 tigers : I just placed the order. Called and asked for "Standalone Fast Access" and she knew exactly what I wanted. Service will be active as soon as I get a modem.

Really a very smooth process via the phone which is contrast to their very poorly designed website that wanted me to sign up for local and long distance service before I could get DSL.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19117803 Fri, 21 Sep 2007 10:02:21 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19103561 murfster : OK, say I order SAFA ... and keep my 6.0 Ext (if that's even possible). Who are you guys recommending for a VOIP provider? Do I need a VOIP router and VOIP phones? Any recommendations on the hardware?
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GMC Forums

UnitedGamerz]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19103561 Wed, 19 Sep 2007 05:51:21 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19097221 Jahntassa : Ordered yesterday in Zip 30013. Unfortunately they gave me a 2 week turnon time (Oct 2nd). Ouch! Last time I ordered DSL the line was on and running within a week, without anyone showing up! It was even on a house that had no current line.

Even better because I have my own modem and filters..argh. We'll see how this goes, but here's hoping!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19097221 Tue, 18 Sep 2007 10:55:07 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19085107 jorcmg : great information.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19085107 Sun, 16 Sep 2007 13:43:21 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19082714 anon : Hi, here's a bit of a twist. I called today and asked for bundle 97. The rep said I could get naked 6.0 for $47 a month, or I could keep my pots for $20 a month and they would reduce the price of my DSL to $22 per month for the next 6 months -- total of $42 a month. After six months I guess I call them again to see what new deal they've cooked up. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19082714 Sat, 15 Sep 2007 22:45:07 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19073652 bigjohn : Does this qualify for people who are served by Bell South IFITL?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19073652 Fri, 14 Sep 2007 12:02:56 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19072918 Killa200 : So i called this morning to get my line changed over to bundle 97. And while the worst of my news is that they still have nothing faster than extreme 3.0 for my area because we're pretty well over capacity in the area... the good news was the change took all of 7 minutes flat with no hint of trying to set me up with another service.

WooHoo for dry line dsl, and hello broadvoice voip account!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19072918 Fri, 14 Sep 2007 09:59:18 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19066818 anon : Thank You so much!!!!!! After getting the run around for over 2 weeks, I was finally able to switch to stand alone DSL!!!!!! I read your comments and asked for SAFAL + DSL Xtrme 6.0! I don't understand why I was getting the run around before. Anyway, thanks again!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19066818 Thu, 13 Sep 2007 11:25:12 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19061981 Bobkd4dii : Thanks for the responses, I will give it a shot. If they insist on bundling it with wireless no problem as we have ATT wireless. Thanks again ropeguru and bluepoint.

Bob
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The aheader we go, the behinder we get.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19061981 Wed, 12 Sep 2007 16:55:41 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19061975 anon : YAY i just order bundle 97 to (ft. Lauderdale, fl) the guy tried to sell me some bundle 66 ? or something but i just stuck to it and got my bundle 97]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19061975 Wed, 12 Sep 2007 16:54:56 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19058637 ropeguru :

said by Bobkd4dii

:

Anyone in Florida had any luck with this. I just changed back to BS and went with having a no frills line and 3 meg DSL. I have been using VOIP for years, be nice to switch over to a dry line and save a few bucks.

Bob

A lot of people have had good luck in getting this done for them. I have not been so lucky and for now have had to give up due to work load and travel.

See my thread here:

»Didn't know it would be so tough...

BTW - I still haven't had a call back from AT&T. SOunds like to me they are just telling people this when they don't have a clue just to get them off the phone and keep call times down in the off shore call centers.
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FWD#: 223611]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19058637 Wed, 12 Sep 2007 07:47:07 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19056019 bluepoint951 :

said by Bobkd4dii

Its in FL.... just call and ask for it... :-) just remember to ask for BUNDLE 97 and also if you are told you need Wireless or some other Affiliate you are not being told correctly

Bundle 97 is open to all customers new and existing without purchasing or bundling any other services.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19056019 Tue, 11 Sep 2007 20:09:44 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19055955 travelguy :

said by mikes60

:

I believe your DishNetwork and alarm system need POTS access.

Some alarm systems can be adapted to work over VOIP, but you'd have to check with your alarm company.

FWIW, when I had Dish it worked just fine with my Vonage line. My alarm system worked just fine as well, although you need to be careful. My system was not monitored and just sent me a page when an event occurred.

If you rely on your alarm system to get a "monitored system" discount on your insurance, using VOIP may void the UL cert on the alarm and thus void your discount.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19055955 Tue, 11 Sep 2007 20:01:32 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19055766 Bobkd4dii : Anyone in Florida had any luck with this. I just changed back to BS and went with having a no frills line and 3 meg DSL. I have been using VOIP for years, be nice to switch over to a dry line and save a few bucks.

Bob
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said by JaxMan :

Well I just got off the phone with AT&T and have successfully changed over to Naked (Dry Loop) DSL. I went with Bundle 97 (includes cell) xtreme 3.0 for $42.95 + state tax + my cell pan. Surprisingly, this only took a total of 20 minutes.

There are no taxes on "internet service" in the state of Florida.. Taxes on Cell phone service are another story. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18986909 Fri, 31 Aug 2007 13:09:03 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18986697 davoice :

said by JaxMan :

I believe that the key to quick service is in making them aware that you know the bundle names and have done your research. Thanks to this forum, I was able to do that.

I won't say it's THE key but it certainly helps shortcut the process in most cases. Remember there's always the chance there'll be an idiot at one end of the phone. :P

}Davoice]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18986697 Fri, 31 Aug 2007 12:31:49 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18986671 anon : I forgot to mention in the above post that I am in Jacksonville, FL (one of the original cities to receive the offering). So that too may have made a difference in the response time.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18986671 Fri, 31 Aug 2007 12:28:22 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18986657 anon : Well I just got off the phone with AT&T and have successfully changed over to Naked (Dry Loop) DSL. I went with Bundle 97 (includes cell) xtreme 3.0 for $42.95 + state tax + my cell pan. Surprisingly, this only took a total of 20 minutes.

I did have to speak with two sales people (one in DSL and the second in cellular), which was due to the home phone being my name while the cell phones are in my wife's name.

I believe that the key to quick service is in making them aware that you know the bundle names and have done your research. Thanks to this forum, I was able to do that.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18986657 Fri, 31 Aug 2007 12:25:48 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18983194 mikes60 :

said by bluepoint951

said by mikes60

:

I think that is bundle 66. But that usually only includes Ultra at $60.00. Extreme is supposed to be $10.00 more (see post earlier in this thread. If you got Extreme at that price, good for you.

There are two bundles... Bun65 and Bun66.... see this post i made..New August 1st Bundles...

he could have gotten BUN65 $50 Double Play and add $10 for Xtreme 6.0 DSL....

hope this helps...

I thought unlimited LD only came with BUN66. At least that's what they told me when I called.
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Edit: Interesting BUN65 and BUN66 seem the same, except for the DTV or Wireless plan requirements.

66 seems to be for "customers contemplating leaving", while 65 is for "competitive acquisition customers".

To confusing to spend any more time on it.

BUN66: »cpr.bellsouth.com/pdf/fl/filings···-124.pdf

BUN5: »cpr.bellsouth.com/pdf/fl/filings···-125.pdf]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18983194 Thu, 30 Aug 2007 21:14:05 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18983120 bluepoint951 :

said by mikes60

:

I think that is bundle 66. But that usually only includes Ultra at $60.00. Extreme is supposed to be $10.00 more (see post earlier in this thread. If you got Extreme at that price, good for you.

There are two bundles... Bun65 and Bun66.... see this post i made..New August 1st Bundles...

he could have gotten BUN65 $50 Double Play and add $10 for Xtreme 6.0 DSL....

hope this helps...
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Well, I received a call from Vonage saying that my number couldn't be ported because of my dsl service. Well, I really wanted to keep my number so i called bellsouth/att and was told that even though I would no longer have phone service that the phone number would still be linked to my dsl service so that number couldn't be transferred!!

After nearly 1.5 hrs. on the phone they offered me dsl 6.0 extreme, local phone service, and unlimited long distance for $60.00 + 7.32 in gov fees + 3.00 in taxes. Since I was going to pay for VOIP instead of just using my cell phone this is a better deal for me. The line only comes with caller id and 2 way calling, but I already had an answering machine so those features are fine with me.

SO WHY DID I HAVE TO SPEND A TOTAL OF 3.5 HRS ON THE PHONE FOR THEM TO HELP ME SLASH MY BILL!

There is no bundle for this package, but I was told it became available Aug. 1 in an effort to keep existing customers from terminating their phone service.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18979844 Thu, 30 Aug 2007 11:36:08 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18974033 mikes60 :

said by DSLman :

About the profit from higher prices in the old BellSouth region, someone could contact their state public service commission and ask why AT&T charges a higher rate in their state for the same service that is offered at lower rates in other AT&T states.

Unless it is a federally regulated service, which it isn't, they can charge whatever they want- wherever they want.

I think all their pricing will eventually be standardized, as will their TOS, but for now they are, and can be, totally different.
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They could if it was a regulated product.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18973499 Wed, 29 Aug 2007 13:52:58 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18973344 anon : About the profit from higher prices in the old BellSouth region, someone could contact their state public service commission and ask why AT&T charges a higher rate in their state for the same service that is offered at lower rates in other AT&T states.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18973344 Wed, 29 Aug 2007 13:27:42 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18972564 jtudor :

said by NetFixer

:

OT: Am I the only one who has noticed that BellSouth (or at least some divisions of BellSouth) seems to be resisting being absorbed into the AT&T monolith? Has BellSouth not heard that resistance is futile? ;)

I am not sure that it's BellSouth resisting the Borg, I suspect it is more that the Borg is not applying all it's policies in BS territory yet, gaining as much profit from higher prices as they can. :(
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18972564 Wed, 29 Aug 2007 11:22:26 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18970307 NetFixer :

said by Surfinusa

said by logic1977

:

What is the $10 credit for? Most of theother credit were for bundling pots & wireless, or POTS and DTV etc... so since this is DSL only where does the $10 come from?

GOOD QUESTION I HAVE NO CLUE HOW THEY CAME UP WITH THE $10 FROM??????? ANYONE ANYONE ????

The "credit" is a marketing ploy, where is the mystery? Companies frequently offer credits and cash back deals to induce people into purchasing their products and/or services. Where is the mystery?

If you insist that the "credit" must be for something tangible, it would appear the the standard price for a single dry wire pair is $15.00, and a $10.00 credit is given to SAFA subscribers for bundling the FastAccess service with a dry line. The screen shot image below taken from the "My BellSouth Services" section of bellsouth.com shows that the dry line is itemized as a separate item from the FastAccess service.

[att=1]

And yes, AT&T/BellSouth does indeed lease dry wire pairs without their DSL service being part of the deal. I already had a dry BellSouth line being used with my Covad DSL service prior to getting the SAFA deal. BellSouth was/is in no way involved in supplying the DSL service on that line because Covad has their own DSLAM. Bellsouth simply supplies the physical copper wire pair.

OT: Am I the only one who has noticed that BellSouth (or at least some divisions of BellSouth) seems to be resisting being absorbed into the AT&T monolith? Has BellSouth not heard that resistance is futile? ;)
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18970307 Tue, 28 Aug 2007 23:43:35 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18969491 Surfinusa :

said by logic1977

said by bluepoint951

:

Key Points:

This Bundle is NEW/REVISED as of August 1st.
There are NO requirements for Wireless, DirecTV, or POTS.
The Bundle is available to ALL customers that are eligible and/or have DSL
The SAFA Line is $15, the bundle gives a $10 credit.
The Bundle requires DSL ULTRA/XTREME 3.0/ XTREME 6.0; LITE is not eligible.
This Bundle is an UNREGULATED service.
This Bundle is for AT&T-SE customers only at the present moment.

What is the $10 credit for? Most of theother credit were for bundling pots & wireless, or POTS and DTV etc... so since this is DSL only where does the $10 come from?

GOOD QUESTION I HAVE NO CLUE HOW THEY CAME UP WITH THE $10 FROM??????? ANYONE ANYONE ????]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18969491 Tue, 28 Aug 2007 21:45:02 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18966729 anon : Sorry, I should have included that, shouldn't I? I'm in West Palm Beach FL (WPBHFLRP). I asked for Bundle 66, and the rep I spoke to knew right away what it was, and set me up.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18966729 Tue, 28 Aug 2007 14:44:09 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18965946 anon : On the phone right now with them the BUN97 is available in my area getting the SAFAL + DSL Xtrme 6.0=$47.95 plan. I live in Clover, SC 29710 former BS area if anyone was interested. She did give me a phone # that's associated with the line but it will not be active.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18965946 Tue, 28 Aug 2007 12:36:11 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18965686 whodean : Here is my question, I would be new to ATT...can I sign up for this SAFA and get the bundle with DirecTV? The bundle I want is the one they are advertising where if you buy the NFL package you get 4 months of platinum level DirecTV service for free.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18965686 Tue, 28 Aug 2007 11:44:07 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18965317 bluepoint951 :

said by ropeguru

My friend that changed his POTS line to CallVantage did this :

1. Changed Class of Service to 1FR and a Ringmaster Number
2. Changed the Main POTS number to Ringmaster.
3. Port out the Ringmaster to CallVanatage.
4. Change POTS line to SAFA.

Took him about 2 weeks; one thing to keep in mind is that the Change to 1FR RingMaster and the change of the Main Line Number to the RingMaster Number but be completed before LNP can begin, shouldn't take more than 2 business day to have that work done though.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18965317 Tue, 28 Aug 2007 10:44:02 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18965259 ropeguru : So, at this point, what would be the best procedure to be able to port a current POTS number that has DSL on it and get SAFA?

I am guessing that one would have to order a seperate SAFA line, then cancel the DSL on the current POTS line, and finally port the POTS number out.

Any thoughts??
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said by glparker4

:

I called BellSouth/AT&T this morning to order standalone fast access DSL. The first gentleman that I spoke to informed me that he would need to transfer me to a "specialist" so that they can remove phone service on my account and keep DSL. I specifically requested Bundle 97.

However, the specialist informed that stand alone DSL is not available in my area (Atlanta, GA). She said that it is available as a trial in parts of Florida. However, she did give me a $20/month credit on my bill for the next six months which offsets the cost of the phone line. She explained that stand alone DSL should be available in my area soon but she didn't know when.

Whom ever you were speaking to was incorrect, there have been quite a few from the Atlanta arean in this thread that have either ordered or switched to BUN97. I suggest you call in once again. This bundle is available anywhere AT&T-SE offers DSL.

Remember that the objective of the company is to keep you with their voice products, however, it is you who ultimately pay for the service. Don't let the rep tell you what you want you; tell the rep what you want. Trust me I had to push quite a bit to get there. It's in their system they just don't want to make it well known.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18965097 Tue, 28 Aug 2007 10:00:23 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18964857 glparker4 : I called BellSouth/AT&T this morning to order standalone fast access DSL. The first gentleman that I spoke to informed me that he would need to transfer me to a "specialist" so that they can remove phone service on my account and keep DSL. I specifically requested Bundle 97.

However, the specialist informed that stand alone DSL is not available in my area (Atlanta, GA). She said that it is available as a trial in parts of Florida. However, she did give me a $20/month credit on my bill for the next six months which offsets the cost of the phone line. She explained that stand alone DSL should be available in my area soon but she didn't know when.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18964857 Tue, 28 Aug 2007 09:13:49 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18961718 bluepoint951 :

said by Airwolf7

:

You said you just ordered Bundle 66, I'm curious as to what state you are located in and can you tell us what all comes with the Bundle 66? When you called did you ask for Bundle 66 or did they offer you Bundle 66?

Thank you in advance.

BUNDLE 66 - $60 Double Play

2 Pack plan (Caller IDDlx & Call Waiting Dlx)
AT&T Nationwide Unlimited LD
FastAccess DSL Ultra

Avaliable Upgrades?
DSL Xtreme 3.0 $5 or DSL Xtreme 6.0 $10]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18961718 Mon, 27 Aug 2007 19:13:21 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18961278 Mizzat :

said by davoice

:

Skycam according to annecodotal reports, your phone # will remain in their database as long as you just convert to SAFA instead of canceling and starting over. They keep the old phone # as your account number. Any time in the future you can re-activate phone service w/ that as the phone #.

That is correct.

said by davoice

:

In practice it looks like they're also using it to assign a DID to each customer to overcome the fact that their databases all use the customer phone # as a primary key.

That is not necessarily correct, they can have account numbers that are not a phone number and in fact even have letters in the account "number" for example if you buy just a T1 from them, it does not run over a phone line and your account number will have a letter in it. However, since DSL runs over phone lines, your account number should be a phone number.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18961278 Mon, 27 Aug 2007 18:06:32 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18961177 davoice : Skycam according to annecodotal reports, your phone # will remain in their database as long as you just convert to SAFA instead of canceling and starting over. They keep the old phone # as your account number. Any time in the future you can re-activate phone service w/ that as the phone #.

In theory, that's part of what they charge $5 extra for on the SAFA - to pay for the line allocation and maintenance. In practice it looks like they're also using it to assign a DID to each customer to overcome the fact that their databases all use the customer phone # as a primary key.

Today when I signed up for SAFA I was given an account # that contains a local phone number in the CO from which my DSL will be provisioned. (I checked.)

}Davoice]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18961177 Mon, 27 Aug 2007 17:48:09 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18961155 davoice : Just ordered SAFA (BUN97) for myself to adjunct my TW/RR Turbo (8x512 in this market).

I asked for "Bundle 97" by name when the rep asked how she could help. Her response was "Ok, you want stand alone fast access, ok."

That was the easy part. Then we had to basically reverse engineer Bellsouth's database so it could find me. I've never had Bellsouth phone service (moved here from Dallas and have Time Warner Digital Phone). Luckily I knew this area used to be called a different city and had a different zip code 3 years ago. And the rep was smart enough to figure out the weird abbreviation for my street name (spelled out, it's 36 characters - way longer than most databases allow).

Then we had to figure out how to put in a different physical address (to account for the change in city names and zip code from the service address) for the modem/activation shipment and a different billing address for my bill since we have no postal service delivery out here and have to go to the Post Office to get our mail at a PO Box.

Kudos to Amanda for sticking it out and not BSing her way through it.

They have gotten smart on the script. She had a whole paragraph to read about the line not having regular dial-tone, not being able to use it to make calls, not having 911 service, and not being able to use it with alarm systems or TiVo.

}Davoice]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18961155 Mon, 27 Aug 2007 17:44:10 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18961093 Airwolf7 : You said you just ordered Bundle 66, I'm curious as to what state you are located in and can you tell us what all comes with the Bundle 66? When you called did you ask for Bundle 66 or did they offer you Bundle 66?

Thank you in advance.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18961093 Mon, 27 Aug 2007 17:31:49 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18961025 skycam : I have been following the postings here, but I have a couple of questions. I currently have both Extreme 6.0 and local dial tone from ATT. In addition I have ViaTalk Voip, along with a Grand Central Account.

I have had my local phone number for 18 years, and I would like to preserve it, however, I would like to get rid of my local dial tone, and only keep the DSL Extreme 6.0. With taxes and fees, it should save me almost $25.00 a month. We do not answer the local number because it is just telemarketers, even though I am on the Federal Do not call list. I would like to preserve my number because it spells my name.

I would appreciate any suggestions that any of you have.

Thanks]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18961025 Mon, 27 Aug 2007 17:20:37 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18958530 anon : Just ordered the Bundle 66. Rep was knowledgeable and helpful. Price with 6 meg DSL Extreme 67.50/mo. Change should be effective by midnight tonight. Quite a drop from what I was paying.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18958530 Mon, 27 Aug 2007 11:14:04 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18949520 dot_null :

said by ke4rzi

:

So that's what I was getting back then. So how much would the 1.5 Mbps. stand alone ADSL cost I wonder?

The dry line DSL Ultra (1.5 Mbps/256 Kbps) package is $37.95 ($32.95 + $5 SAFAL fee).]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18949520 Sat, 25 Aug 2007 18:01:49 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18949308 ke4rzi : It just so happens that I had entered the line statistics I had gotten from the menu of my Alcatel STH in a previous ISP review from back in 05.

> Operational data report : near end (Downstream)

> -----------------------------------------------

> Attainable line rate : 2356 kbit/sec

> Attainable Atm rate : 2016 kbit/sec

> Used line rate : 1760 kbit/sec

> Fast used Atm rate : 1472 kbit/sec

> Interleaved used Atm rate : 0 kbits/sec

> Rel. capacity occupation : 75

> Noise Margin : 10 dB

> Line attenuation : 65 dB

> Output Power : 18 dBm

>

> Operational data report : far end (Upstream)

> --------------------------------------------

> Attainable line rate : 904 kbit/sec

> Attainable Atm rate : 800 kbit/sec

> Used line rate : 348 kbit/sec

> Fast used Atm rate : 256 kbit/sec

> Interleaved used Atm rate : 0 kbits/sec

> Rel. capacity occupation : 38

> Noise Margin : 15 dB

> Line attenuation : 37 dB

> Output Power : 1 dBm

So that's what I was getting back then. So how much would the 1.5 Mbps. stand alone ADSL cost I wonder?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18949308 Sat, 25 Aug 2007 17:25:57 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18949197 dot_null : The 6100 is a great little modem. Mine has worked flawlessly since day 1.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18949197 Sat, 25 Aug 2007 17:07:05 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18949148 NetFixer :

said by ke4rzi

:

Ok, what I'd like to know is the exact price that you guys have been quoted for what speed packages?

I have had Bellsouth ADSL in the past and used my own Alcatel Speed Touch Home modem and with that modem I could only get maybe 2 Mbps. max speed. So I might as well only sign up for the 1.5 Mbps. service if I did sign up. I was just curious how much it is costing people who opt for the stand alone DSL. I have no AT&T service of any kind currently.

Possibly if I got a newer DSL modem it might allow higher download speeds than my old Alcatel. Any thoughts?

The price I was quoted for 3.0 SAFA Xtreme was 37.95.

Your comment about the Alcatel STH piqued my curiosity, so I brought mine out of retirement for a test. When setup for a 8/35 LLC/SNAP bridged connection, mine was able to sync to 3552/384 and testing at »speakeasy.net/speedtest produced a speed result of 3044/314. If your Alcatel STH was never able to sync at greater than 2mbps downstream, then you are possibly just too far away from the CO to get a better sync rate (I am ~12,000 ft from the CO).

My understanding is that the new Westell 6100 modems are capable of better sync than the Alcatel STH and the older Westell modems, so you may be surprised if you just let them send you one of the new Westell 6100 modems. I was not given a choice, I was automatically sent a Westell 6100, and it seems to be working with no problems in bridge mode with my existing wireless router.
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When I first got the service I was getting slow speeds too but it turned out to be my router so don't rule out anything until you have checked all your equipment.
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Can I post now?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18948497 Sat, 25 Aug 2007 14:29:29 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18948315 ke4rzi : Ok, what I'd like to know is the exact price that you guys have been quoted for what speed packages?

I have had Bellsouth ADSL in the past and used my own Alcatel Speed Touch Home modem and with that modem I could only get maybe 2 Mbps. max speed. So I might as well only sign up for the 1.5 Mbps. service if I did sign up. I was just curious how much it is costing people who opt for the stand alone DSL. I have no AT&T service of any kind currently.

Possibly if I got a newer DSL modem it might allow higher download speeds than my old Alcatel. Any thoughts?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18948315 Sat, 25 Aug 2007 13:53:59 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18945745 anon :

said by imanogre

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I'm up and running on my SAFA line. Didn't get the offer of a rebate on my modem though like some other posters. Got the Westell $100 modem with router. Anyone care to share a link to the rebate perhaps?

i got safa too and the csr told me i am going to get $75 cash back and not a rebate. it sound weird to me that i'm getting a cash back, i thought i would have to fill out some rebate form but guess not. also she told me i'm getting an extra $15 for signing up with her too. man i hope she is not lying to me. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18945745 Sat, 25 Aug 2007 00:00:33 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18942926 tonystewart : I just changed by service SAFA, 15 minutes on the phone saves me at least $15 a month.

Thanks to everyone on the forum]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18942926 Fri, 24 Aug 2007 17:01:12 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18940472 statecop : I just ordered and it took about 15-20 minutes. The first rep I talk to said I had to have DTV or cell service. I ask her to double check and I was told it changed. She checked and said you are right...then transfered me to another number and it was completed with no problem.

GREAT FIND!!!!!!!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18940472 Fri, 24 Aug 2007 10:20:31 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18939088 NetFixer :

said by imanogre

I was not able to find anywhere to order my SAFA service on-line, and I think modem rebates only apply to on-line orders. Did you manage to order your SAFA service on-line?

said by FastAccess® DSL :

Special Offer FREE modem after rebate ($75 value) when you order online

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Test your firewall.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18939088 Fri, 24 Aug 2007 01:28:42 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18939078 gaviper :

said by imanogre

:

Anyone care to share a link to the rebate perhaps?

Try »rewardcenter.att.com/
or »att.com/bellsouthrewards]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18939078 Fri, 24 Aug 2007 01:26:13 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18939033 imanogre : I'm up and running on my SAFA line. Didn't get the offer of a rebate on my modem though like some other posters. Got the Westell $100 modem with router. Anyone care to share a link to the rebate perhaps?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18939033 Fri, 24 Aug 2007 01:14:28 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18936006 NetFixer : My new AT&T Stand Alone FastAccess Xtreme service was just activated (the line tech left about 45 minutes ago).

The only problem was that it took three days and numerous calls and emails to get the cross-connects at the CO and the local pedestal done. I had problems getting anyone to understand that this was a new dry circuit, not a line share circuit to an existing POTS line and that there were no preexisting cross-connects. The folks at FastAccess support were all convinced that the circuit was functioning properly, but I just did not have the modem connected properly.
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