SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today in AT&T Southeast http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r18822993 en Mon, 30 Nov 2009 01:20:25 EDT Mon, 30 Nov 2009 01:20:25 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20286523 pdcho : I am moving from NY to FL.

I called 800 757 6500 to order dry loop DSL several times. All the reps said DSL is not available at my address. But I know my neighbors (both to the left and right) have DSL. I told this to the reps and they tried to set up DSL for me but failed.

Any suggestions? Will getting a dial tone allow me to get DSL?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20286523 Sat, 05 Apr 2008 09:12:11 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20023479 techieb0mb : yes that is correct. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20023479 Tue, 19 Feb 2008 11:49:08 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20022969 graysonf : Well, there you go. Thanks for the insight.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20022969 Tue, 19 Feb 2008 10:14:43 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20022928 Splitpair :
said by graysonf See Profile :

I remember when this DSL stuff got started long ago. SDSL was run on dry pairs, unloaded IIRC. I don't seem to remember a rash of failed pairs spreading out all over the place.
With clean dry copper a lack of battery such as with a dry pair is not a problem add moisture and I don't care if there is battery on there or not there will be a problem.

As to why it's a tossup some CLEC's run battery on xDSL and some do not and I have even seen where one CLEC's ports will have battery one and the next one in sequence will not yet both are workers go figure. My guess is it all depends on which way the weather vane at the provisioning center was pointing that day.

Wayne
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20022928 Tue, 19 Feb 2008 10:06:45 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20022889 asjamias :
said by techieb0mb See Profile :

Actually i'm working with att here in the philippines. I'm working with dsl residential tech support specifically from the homenetworking dept. I joined the forums so that i can help customers of att even though i'm at home and not working.
so you are a local of the Philippines then?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20022889 Tue, 19 Feb 2008 09:59:49 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20022879 Splitpair :
said by RogerADSL See Profile :

truedat Wayne! :o Being as you work on this stuff, is there anything to the loading the pair to reduce corrosion theory?
Supposedly sealing current will keep marginal splices from becoming opens. The problem with that is doing so is a patch the real cure for a marginal splice is to re-splice it not try to weld it with sealing current. Does this apply to SAFA na. In order for sealing current to work current must flow and that is not happening with just battery being applied such as in SAFA.

Wayne
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20022879 Tue, 19 Feb 2008 09:59:08 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20022794 graysonf : Or asked another way.

Do alarm companies and other who use dry pairs load theirs or not? Seems to me they must if the anti-corrosion theory is true. Otherwise there would be constant headaches.

I remember when this DSL stuff got started long ago. SDSL was run on dry pairs, unloaded IIRC. I don't seem to remember a rash of failed pairs spreading out all over the place.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20022794 Tue, 19 Feb 2008 09:42:34 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20022726 RogerADSL : truedat Wayne! :o Being as you work on this stuff, is there anything to the loading the pair to reduce corrosion theory?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20022726 Tue, 19 Feb 2008 09:32:05 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20022411 techieb0mb : Actually i'm working with att here in the philippines. I'm working with dsl residential tech support specifically from the homenetworking dept. I joined the forums so that i can help customers of att even though i'm at home and not working. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20022411 Tue, 19 Feb 2008 08:08:56 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20017264 Splitpair :
said by RogerADSL See Profile :

I think the other reason they dicided to add dial tone on the DSL Direct Line is to give the line a load to reduce corrosion.
It also helps to prevent the "a pair without battery is the spare pair I need" syndrome. ;-)

Wayne
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Cannot decode - my whole life spins into a frenzy
]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20017264 Mon, 18 Feb 2008 13:05:32 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20016519 asjamias : techiebomb,
i can't help notice your location which is Philippines...

are you a local or from somewhere else?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20016519 Mon, 18 Feb 2008 11:00:29 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20015987 RogerADSL : I think the other reason they dicided to add dial tone on the DSL Direct Line is to give the line a load to reduce corrosion. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20015987 Mon, 18 Feb 2008 09:03:01 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20011168 techieb0mb : for safa customers there is still a dial tone for that but that does not mean that you can receive inbound call or do out bound calls as well. the main use of the dial tone is to make sure if that jack is working when you are experiencing problems with dsl sync issues. so for your security system i would suggest if you can contact you OEM for that so that they can tell if you it will work with VOIP just in case your going to shift to SAFA. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20011168 Sun, 17 Feb 2008 10:10:41 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20009631 vahighland : I decided to keep my AT&T pots line and DSL. But thanks to this forum, I was able to save almost $21 month by asking for one of the new plans. My total bill with taxes is now $77.55.

When I added up the cost of a stand-alone DSL plus Vonage, it didn't seem worth getting rid of my pots line. Plus I have a Dish Network receiver, fax machine, and security system all hooked up to pots.

Thanks!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20009631 Sat, 16 Feb 2008 22:25:11 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19835730 matt498 : Oh ok, boy you had me confused for a second there. That would be the most logical install.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19835730 Sat, 19 Jan 2008 18:37:26 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19835697 NetFixer :
said by matt498 See Profile :

Let me get this straight, you ran a CAT5 cable to the ped? I hope it was meant to be buried. What did the tech say when he came out and saw that?
The pedestal is attached to the outside wall near to my office window. The cat5 cable was run through a sealed hole in the wall near to the pedestal (along with the connection for my Covad dedicated DSL). The AT&T tech said enjoy your new AT&T DSL service.
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said by NetFixer See Profile :

said by FAQFixer See Profile :

said by NetFixer See Profile :

With my AT&T Direct DSL circuit, I have dial tone and I can make outbound local calls, but I have been told that is a fluke.
Your order probably just didn't get completed correctly. I wouldn't be suprised if it ends up corrected some day.
That would be fine with me as long as they don't screw up the DSL circuit in the process. It took almost a week of calls and emails after I was notified that the circuit was active to find someone who could understand that nobody had been to my location to physically connect the circuit. I did not have (and had never had) an existing POTS service at my current address, and the CAT5 cable that I ran out to the pedestal for this circuit was not connected to anything.
Let me get this straight, you ran a CAT5 cable to the ped? I hope it was meant to be buried. What did the tech say when he came out and saw that?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19835636 Sat, 19 Jan 2008 18:19:17 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19830827 NetFixer :
said by FAQFixer See Profile :

said by NetFixer See Profile :

With my AT&T Direct DSL circuit, I have dial tone and I can make outbound local calls, but I have been told that is a fluke.
Your order probably just didn't get completed correctly. I wouldn't be suprised if it ends up corrected some day.
That would be fine with me as long as they don't screw up the DSL circuit in the process. It took almost a week of calls and emails after I was notified that the circuit was active to find someone who could understand that nobody had been to my location to physically connect the circuit. I did not have (and had never had) an existing POTS service at my current address, and the CAT5 cable that I ran out to the pedestal for this circuit was not connected to anything.
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We need to witness our own limits transgressed, and some life pasturing freely where we never wander.
Test your firewall.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19830827 Fri, 18 Jan 2008 20:42:59 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19830757 FAQFixer :
said by fearziz See Profile :

Hey All,

I have a Security System that isn't monitored but it still needs a dial tone or it will bark at me. I found this out with my Comcast VOIP fiasco. I switched to AT&T Basic LAN & DSL 6.0 Service. Now that they offer the direct service I want to save money and end my phone service. I'm getting two different responses when I call AT&T about a dial tone. It is my understanding that you always have a dial tone for 911 calls. I'm afraid that if disconnect my phone service my dial tone will go away. Is this true? The internet folks say I still get a dial tone and the phone techs say I won't please help!
You will get dial tone however you will not be able to make any calls...including 911.

said by NetFixer See Profile :

With my AT&T Direct DSL circuit, I have dial tone and I can make outbound local calls, but I have been told that is a fluke.
Your order probably just didn't get completed correctly. I wouldn't be suprised if it ends up corrected some day. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19830757 Fri, 18 Jan 2008 20:28:46 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19830327 NetFixer :
said by fearziz See Profile :

I'm getting two different responses when I call AT&T about a dial tone. It is my understanding that you always have a dial tone for 911 calls. I'm afraid that if disconnect my phone service my dial tone will go away. Is this true? The internet folks say I still get a dial tone and the phone techs say I won't please help!
I am surprised that you only got two different answers. ;)

With my AT&T Direct DSL circuit, I have dial tone and I can make outbound local calls, but I have been told that is a fluke. I think the official policy is that you will get a dial tone (because AT&T believes that a true dry circuit is not as reliable), but you will only be able to dial special ANAC test numbers.
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I have a Security System that isn't monitored but it still needs a dial tone or it will bark at me. I found this out with my Comcast VOIP fiasco. I switched to AT&T Basic LAN & DSL 6.0 Service. Now that they offer the direct service I want to save money and end my phone service. I'm getting two different responses when I call AT&T about a dial tone. It is my understanding that you always have a dial tone for 911 calls. I'm afraid that if disconnect my phone service my dial tone will go away. Is this true? The internet folks say I still get a dial tone and the phone techs say I won't please help!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19828915 Fri, 18 Jan 2008 16:03:07 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19628942 anon : On the phone with the service tech now. She seems to think that ordering a stand-alone line will cause my phone number to be cancelled and a new number issued for reference. If you're going to port your number, you'll want to do it before you order the SAFA service.

Additionally, DSL lite is only offered as stand alone in a select few places. I had to upgrade to DSL Ultra to drop the phone line - but I still got a savings of about $19 per month.

It seems that the techs are becoming more educated on the SAFA lines, as I got through to a knowledgeable tech on the first try. Lucky me! ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19628942 Sat, 15 Dec 2007 15:25:05 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19574745 anon : Everyone has been discussing if wireless is required to get Bundle97, but does anyone know what, if any, discounts are applied if you currently ARE a cingular/att wireless customer?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19574745 Thu, 06 Dec 2007 12:55:23 EDT Re: Fastaccess DSL cust. - want to go to SAFA and CallVantage http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19557971 Mizzat : I have good faith that she was telling the truth. Things just might happen on the 11th ;)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19557971 Mon, 03 Dec 2007 21:46:31 EDT Re: Fastaccess DSL cust. - want to go to SAFA and CallVantage http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19557363 anon : it's pretty clearly offered for new residential customers in their terms and conditions at »www.bellsouth.com/consumer/inets···rms.html

when i tried on 12/1 to get the $19.95 plan, the sales rep said there was no dsl direct at that price. when i read her that page she asked her supervisor who claimed it wouldn't be available until the 11th. that seemed like complete bs. the sales rep seemed honest and interested (in receiving her commission if nothing else), but truly unable to do anything as it wasn't in her system and retention/customer service can provide credits, but sales reps and supervisors can't. and of course the customer service people need an account to credit. so good luck. theoretically if you found reps who wanted to honor the terms posted online (crazy idea i know!) you could hold for a customer service rep, get promised a credit, get transfered to sales, sign up for a higher priced account, and get transfered back to service to receive your credit on your new account. i don't have the time.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19557363 Mon, 03 Dec 2007 20:20:20 EDT Re: Fastaccess DSL cust. - want to go to SAFA and CallVantage http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19549369 Mizzat : Well there you go. I thought they already started offering the 768 DSL Direct. I'm not that familiar with residential offers, though. I thought it was for new customer only. Didn't someone already post that?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19549369 Sun, 02 Dec 2007 13:15:21 EDT Re: Fastaccess DSL cust. - want to go to SAFA and CallVantage http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19549350 bluepoint951 : AT&T/Bellsouth Merger Conditions
»www.fcc.gov/ATT_FINALMergerCommi···2-28.pdf

Promoting Accessibility of Broadband Service (Page 3)
Within six months of the Merger Closing Date, and continuing for at least 30 months from the inception of the offer, AT&T/BellSouth will offer to retail consumers in the Wireline Buildout Area, who have not previously subscribed to AT&T's or BellSouth's ADSL service, a broadband Internet access service at a speed of up to 768 Kbps at a monthly rate (exclusive of any applicable taxes and regulatory fees) of $ 10 per month.

ADSL Service (Page 8)
Within twelve months of the Merger Closing Date, AT&T/BellSouth will make available in its in-region territory an ADSL service capable of speeds up to 768 Kbps to ADSL-capable customers without requiring such customers to also purchase circuit switched voice grade telephone service ("Stand Alone 768 Kbps service"). AT&T/BellSouth will continue to offer the 768 Kbps service in a state for thirty months after the "Stand Alone 768 Kbps Implementation Date" for that state. For purposes of this commitment, the "Stand Alone 768 Kbps Implementation Date" for a state shall be the date on which AT&T/BellSouth can offer the Stand Alone 768 Kbps service to eighty percent of the ADSL-capable premises in AT&TBellSouth's in-region territory in that state. The Stand Alone 768 Kbps service will be offered at a rate of not more than $19.95 per month (exclusive of regulatory fees and taxes) . AT&T/BellSouth may make available such services at other speeds at prices that are competitive with the broadband market taken as a whole.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19549350 Sun, 02 Dec 2007 13:10:55 EDT Re: Fastaccess DSL cust. - want to go to SAFA and CallVantage http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19548615 Mizzat :
said by bluepoint951 See Profile :

said by jonathanlord See Profile :

I just signed up for DSL Direct 1.5M (Bundle 97) since I was told that I could not get DSL Direct 768K from the CSR.

I am in Bellsouth Palm Beach, FL territory. Has anyone had any luck getting the DSL Direct 768K in South Florida. If so, are you aware of what I need to ask for?
768k FastAccess DSL Direct has not yet been offered in BST/AT&T-SE Region, per merger guidelines they have until Dec 28th before the must begin offereing the service.
Are you sure? Or were the concessions that they needed to offer naked DSL AND a 768 for $10? Did it say that the 768 for $10 had to be naked?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19548615 Sun, 02 Dec 2007 09:56:34 EDT Re: Fastaccess DSL cust. - want to go to SAFA and CallVantage http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19547755 bluepoint951 :
said by jonathanlord See Profile :

I just signed up for DSL Direct 1.5M (Bundle 97) since I was told that I could not get DSL Direct 768K from the CSR.

I am in Bellsouth Palm Beach, FL territory. Has anyone had any luck getting the DSL Direct 768K in South Florida. If so, are you aware of what I need to ask for?
768k FastAccess DSL Direct has not yet been offered in BST/AT&T-SE Region, per merger guidelines they have until Dec 28th before the must begin offereing the service.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19547755 Sun, 02 Dec 2007 01:12:31 EDT Re: Fastaccess DSL cust. - want to go to SAFA and CallVantage http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19535073 jonathanlord : I just signed up for DSL Direct 1.5M (Bundle 97) since I was told that I could not get DSL Direct 768K from the CSR.

I am in Bellsouth Palm Beach, FL territory. Has anyone had any luck getting the DSL Direct 768K in South Florida. If so, are you aware of what I need to ask for?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19535073 Thu, 29 Nov 2007 21:58:10 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19480161 anon : Thank you so much for this forum! Without all your information and advise I would now be paying a $40 cancellation fee for my new VOIP phone service because some idiot at AT&T told me there was 'no such thing' as stand alone DSL. I googled and found this forum and just called AT&T again and it was 'no problem'. Also the rep I spoke to didn't sound too happy with the idiot who told me that since he realized the company was about to lose me as a DSL customer also. Thanks again.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19480161 Tue, 20 Nov 2007 16:16:55 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19471644 kcir : Yes thanks. I guess you need a system with three nics. Two to the ISP and one on the local network routing/(proxying?)/load balancing between the two. (Assuming it could put individual packets on the separate networks) Sound too costly and painful. :(]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19471644 Mon, 19 Nov 2007 10:57:30 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19471585 logic1977 : If you want two 6.0 SAFA lines, you just need to call ATT and order them. Should be that simple, but you can't make them work as if they are a single 12/1 connection. That would be port bonding and it requires work on your end and the DSLAM side, and it isn't a service that is sold. I'm not sure but it is possible you cold try to find something that will load balance on your end, but I have never tried to research it.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19471585 Mon, 19 Nov 2007 10:46:30 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19471537 kcir : First off I'll admit this is a little off topic. Today, I have 6.0 (former BS area) I have local calling from AT+T mostly only for business meetings at home. However given SAFA instead of Tel+DSL 6.0 I would opt for two SAFA 6.0 DSL lines plus some (free) voip service if such a beast exists for my 5-6 voice meetings a week. Would it be possible to get two 6.0 SAFA lines ? What would I need to make it appear to be a single 12/1 connection to my network? (links to some resources would be fine) What options, even computer based (mic/speakers) would be available to make the voice calls? Thanks. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19471537 Mon, 19 Nov 2007 10:39:45 EDT Re: Fastaccess DSL cust. - want to go to SAFA and CallVantage http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19471113 ropeguru : Thanks for the clarification.. Maybe they should have written in their "for new internet customers only", so that dummies like myself would understand. :D
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said by ropeguru See Profile :

That is pretty funny with the way it is written. It first of all states for "new customers only" then goes on to say that it may affect you discount if you are bundling services.

I wish these lawyer types could explain their own writing as how can you already have a bundled plan if you are a new customer per their definition??

Just goes to prove how ignorant people are in their writing skills.
The "new customer" statement is for internet service. My brother has the Cell/POTS/TV bundle but no internet. If he were to take the new internet plan he would be considered a new internet customer and it would affect the discounts he is receiving on his present bundle. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19471108 Mon, 19 Nov 2007 09:13:16 EDT Re: Fastaccess DSL cust. - want to go to SAFA and CallVantage http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19470925 ropeguru : That is pretty funny with the way it is written. It first of all states for "new customers only" then goes on to say that it may affect you discount if you are bundling services.

I wish these lawyer types could explain their own writing as how can you already have a bundled plan if you are a new customer per their definition??

Just goes to prove how ignorant people are in their writing skills.
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1. FastAccess DSL Customers:

FastAccess DSL Plans
FastAccess DSL Lite: $19.95 per month
FastAccess DSL Ultra: $32.95 per month
FastAccess DSL Xtreme: $37.95 per month
FastAccess DSL Xtreme 6.0: $42.95 per month

FastAccess DSL Direct Plans
FastAccess DSL Direct 768K: $19.95 per month
FastAccess DSL Direct 1.5M: $37.95 per month
FastAccess DSL Direct 3.0M: $42.95 per month
FastAccess DSL Direct 6.0M: $47.95 per month



Pricing for new residential customers only.

If you are receiving a bundle discount, any changes you make to your FastAccess DSL service may affect your discount.

Billing for your FastAccess DSL and any added features will begin when your order is complete, which is typically within five days from the date you placed your order."

It looks like Stand Alone FastAccess is now called FastAccess DSL Direct.

It now looks like you can get any tier of FastAccess DSL without POTS.

I think that this FastAccess DSL Direct 768 for $19.95 is offered now because of the conditions imposed under the FCC merger agreement.

Pricing Terms and Conditions
»www.bellsouth.com/consumer/inets···rms.html]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19470813 Mon, 19 Nov 2007 07:43:05 EDT Re: Fastaccess DSL cust. - want to go to SAFA and CallVantage http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19469044 zapy2 : I just logged ino my ATT account ad changed sevices. I now see SAFA DSL Lite for 19.95 as an option to switch to. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19469044 Sun, 18 Nov 2007 20:50:44 EDT Re: Fastaccess DSL cust. - want to go to SAFA and CallVantage http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19405523 RogerADSL :
said by Pashune See Profile :

said by kentuck1163 See Profile :

Ok, - believe me I've searched. And talked to CallVantage and Bellsouth (they really haven't integrated into AT&T yet) support people, but I still haven't got a straight answer.

I am currently a bundled BellSouth customer who is using FastAccess Xtreme 3.0 DSL. I'm going through a divorce and want to cut costs.

So, I'm looking at getting Bundle 97 and getting a SAFA line and then signing on with AT&T CallVantage VOIP service.
However, I would like to keep my current phone number. The CallVantage guy says if I order the SAFA line (is that really just the same as a "dry-loop"?) that then I can port my existing number to CallVantage. Things I have read here seem to conflict with that.

PLEASE, can anyone give me a straight answer on what steps I need to take to get to where I want to go: Bundle97 with CallVantage and same phone number.

Thanks,
Mark
I can tell you that it really is a stand alone, dry DSL line, but there will still be a dial-tone present on the line.
Bluepointe posted this awhile ago....

My friend that changed his POTS line to CallVantage did this :

1. Changed Class of Service to 1FR and a Ringmaster Number
2. Changed the Main POTS number to Ringmaster.
3. Port out the Ringmaster to CallVanatage.
4. Change POTS line to SAFA.

Took him about 2 weeks; one thing to keep in mind is that the Change to 1FR RingMaster and the change of the Main Line Number to the RingMaster Number but be completed before LNP can begin, shouldn't take more than 2 business day to have that work done though.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19405523 Thu, 08 Nov 2007 10:34:21 EDT Re: Fastaccess DSL cust. - want to go to SAFA and CallVantage http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19401770 Pashune :
said by kentuck1163 See Profile :

Ok, - believe me I've searched. And talked to CallVantage and Bellsouth (they really haven't integrated into AT&T yet) support people, but I still haven't got a straight answer.

I am currently a bundled BellSouth customer who is using FastAccess Xtreme 3.0 DSL. I'm going through a divorce and want to cut costs.

So, I'm looking at getting Bundle 97 and getting a SAFA line and then signing on with AT&T CallVantage VOIP service.
However, I would like to keep my current phone number. The CallVantage guy says if I order the SAFA line (is that really just the same as a "dry-loop"?) that then I can port my existing number to CallVantage. Things I have read here seem to conflict with that.

PLEASE, can anyone give me a straight answer on what steps I need to take to get to where I want to go: Bundle97 with CallVantage and same phone number.

Thanks,
Mark
I can tell you that it really is a stand alone, dry DSL line, but there will still be a dial-tone present on the line.
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Wait, what?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19401770 Wed, 07 Nov 2007 18:07:52 EDT Fastaccess DSL cust. - want to go to SAFA and CallVantage http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19400795 kentuck1163 : Ok, - believe me I've searched. And talked to CallVantage and Bellsouth (they really haven't integrated into AT&T yet) support people, but I still haven't got a straight answer.

I am currently a bundled BellSouth customer who is using FastAccess Xtreme 3.0 DSL. I'm going through a divorce and want to cut costs.

So, I'm looking at getting Bundle 97 and getting a SAFA line and then signing on with AT&T CallVantage VOIP service.
However, I would like to keep my current phone number. The CallVantage guy says if I order the SAFA line (is that really just the same as a "dry-loop"?) that then I can port my existing number to CallVantage. Things I have read here seem to conflict with that.

PLEASE, can anyone give me a straight answer on what steps I need to take to get to where I want to go: Bundle97 with CallVantage and same phone number.

Thanks,
Mark]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19400795 Wed, 07 Nov 2007 15:32:11 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19287199 RickGonja : I downgraded to SAFA today. It was very easy I asked for SAFA and the only thing the rep did was let me know about the lack of 911 service. No trying to sell another package. It was quick and painless. :D]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19287199 Fri, 19 Oct 2007 12:12:35 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19229604 dot_null :
said by brandon See Profile :

A downside - I've lost my static IP and I'm not sure it's an available free addon any more for SAFA. Oh well.
You can go here to BellSouth's FastAccess upgrade page to add it back on: »https://www.fastaccess.com/content/consu···eaccount

Just follow the procedure outlined in the »AT&T Southeast Forum FAQ »Can I change my service from dynamic to static IP (or visa versa)? FAQ article to add it back on. I have SAFA on the 6 Mbps plan and I am showing the static IP as a $0.00 addon. I haven't tried to add it on yet (dynamic is fine for me) but it should work. :D]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19229604 Wed, 10 Oct 2007 10:56:40 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19229415 anon : I have a couple of questions. I am in the area that SAFA is being offered so I was going to call about it because I want to switch to Viatalk VOIP with SAFA. However, I see that someone posted to move your phone # before going to SAFA since the line must be active. But if I currently have DSL and a local phone line with AT&T, won't porting my current phone # cutoff my DSL service? How exactly do I go about doing this? Also, is SAFA only offered on the 3.0 and above speeds?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19229415 Wed, 10 Oct 2007 10:19:26 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19216169 Snipes007 : Anyone else get a discount offered when attempting to sign up for SAFA. They offered me a $20 discount to my current DSL plan (for 6 months), which is about the same amount as getting the phone line disconnected. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19216169 Mon, 08 Oct 2007 09:05:35 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19213040 Mizzat :
said by brandon See Profile :

A downside - I've lost my static IP and I'm not sure it's an available free addon any more for SAFA. Oh well.
Mine is the same.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19213040 Sun, 07 Oct 2007 16:39:14 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19211581 brandon : A downside - I've lost my static IP and I'm not sure it's an available free addon any more for SAFA. Oh well.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19211581 Sun, 07 Oct 2007 11:14:53 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19207901 SkyBlue :
said by ZipZilla See Profile :

......
NICE.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19207901 Sat, 06 Oct 2007 15:15:55 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19207627 dot_null : Nope, they'll waive the $5 fee for existing customers too. I had basic local service for a couple of months prior to being placed on BUN97 and my CSR waived the $5 fee for me.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19207627 Sat, 06 Oct 2007 13:58:50 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19207100 ZipZilla : ......

New bill came out today, here is how it looks with the $5 charge. Other observations: ZERO taxes and ZERO fees. YES!
]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19207100 Sat, 06 Oct 2007 11:46:31 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19206618 SkyBlue :
said by ZipZilla See Profile :

wow, you got them to eat the $5 rip-off charge. i wonder if they'll do that for changeovers or just new lines of service like yours
good question I would try and ask them and even maybe threaten to discounect since there is no contract you could always reconnect and negotiate it.

You know I am just telling you what they told me.

Reps do give out wrong info.

If they did I will post it here..

Hope it helps.

Thanks]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19206618 Sat, 06 Oct 2007 09:16:03 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19206204 BF69 :
said by ZipZilla See Profile :

wow, you got them to eat the $5 rip-off charge. i wonder if they'll do that for changeovers or just new lines of service like yours
Charter charges you $10 if you don't have cable TV and Comcast charges you $15. $5 is a deal.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19206204 Sat, 06 Oct 2007 04:55:50 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19205795 ZipZilla : wow, you got them to eat the $5 rip-off charge. i wonder if they'll do that for changeovers or just new lines of service like yours]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19205795 Sat, 06 Oct 2007 01:33:13 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19202984 SkyBlue : I just got SAFA + DSL Xtreme 6.0 for $42.95 a month including the SAFA Line charge $5.00 the rep gave me a a discount on the 6.0 for $37.95 and added the $5.00 SAFA line charge and I am only paying $42.95 for 6.0.

Also they sending me Wireless Router Modem with a $100.00 rebate.

This beats the RoadRunner in my area.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19202984 Fri, 05 Oct 2007 15:48:00 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19201735 Airwolf7 : OK.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19201735 Fri, 05 Oct 2007 12:31:09 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19201478 SkyBlue : This is not for me its for my sister]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19201478 Fri, 05 Oct 2007 11:41:06 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19201470 Airwolf7 : I thought you already had a modem.

»A good DSL modem cheap?

Don't you have FastAccess DSL now?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19201470 Fri, 05 Oct 2007 11:39:55 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19201438 SkyBlue : Does anyone know if you get a free modem wiht SAFA or do you have to pay for it?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19201438 Fri, 05 Oct 2007 11:36:00 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19201426 SkyBlue :
said by tigers See Profile :

I just placed the order. Called and asked for "Standalone Fast Access" and she knew exactly what I wanted. Service will be active as soon as I get a modem.

Really a very smooth process via the phone which is contrast to their very poorly designed website that wanted me to sign up for local and long distance service before I could get DSL.
Did you have to pay for the DSL Modem or did they give it to you for free?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19201426 Fri, 05 Oct 2007 11:33:45 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19201240 RogerADSL : Gerry, the VOIP line "should" work, but the number of problems that can arise are staggering...find someone in that has this same VOIP service and the same DirecTV reciever and ask them if it is working. Sorry for the non-answer. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19201240 Fri, 05 Oct 2007 11:02:20 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19199566 gerryger : My question is if I go with a SAFA and sign up with a VOIP provider will I be able to hook my VOIP telephone line to my DirecTV DVR/Receiver (not TIVO) which according to DirecTV is a requirement.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19199566 Fri, 05 Oct 2007 00:34:38 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19192401 bluepoint951 :
said by letoatrads See Profile :

Here's an odd question for ya -

I jumped on the SAFA BUN97 as soon as I was able to get it in my area. Turns out it was a mistake in my case ( for a number of reasons, not the least of which is the annoyance to family members with the occasional VOIP quirk).

Anybody know the bundle's or deals for going BACK to a stripped down local line ( no LD anything + DSL)? I've seen them offering great deals to keep you from moving to SAFA...so anyone know if these are available for 'new' subscribers?
Check this Thread - Services- New August 1st Bundles

BUN64 - Basic Line + DSL Ultra = $40 + Tax
BUN65 - Caller ID/Call Waiting, Unlimited LD, + DSL Ultra = $50

Both are available On Demand and to new customers or existing customers, most reps will not know of these bundles and insist another package. Tell whomever you know that is wanting to get on of these plans to be firm, they exist. If in doubt as for an Office Manager (don't take a Team Lead or a Supervisor; get a Coach or Office Manager)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19192401 Wed, 03 Oct 2007 20:29:56 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19189673 letoatrads : Here's an odd question for ya -

I jumped on the SAFA BUN97 as soon as I was able to get it in my area. Turns out it was a mistake in my case ( for a number of reasons, not the least of which is the annoyance to family members with the occasional VOIP quirk).

Anybody know the bundle's or deals for going BACK to a stripped down local line ( no LD anything + DSL)? I've seen them offering great deals to keep you from moving to SAFA...so anyone know if these are available for 'new' subscribers?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19189673 Wed, 03 Oct 2007 12:58:07 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19183608 brandon :
said by ZipZilla See Profile :

interestingly enough, the message people get when they tried to call my old landline has changed.

yesterday, it said the line was disconnected

today, it says the line "is not available for incoming calls"

does it change daily on Bundle 97? lol
Mine says not available for incoming calls as well.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19183608 Tue, 02 Oct 2007 13:44:05 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19182536 ZipZilla : interestingly enough, the message people get when they tried to call my old landline has changed.

yesterday, it said the line was disconnected

today, it says the line "is not available for incoming calls"

does it change daily on Bundle 97? lol]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19182536 Tue, 02 Oct 2007 10:24:04 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19179260 ZipZilla : Followup:

The voice line is CUT OFF! YES! BOO YEAH! Naked DSL in effect. Here's how it looks on my online account:
Click for full size
]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19179260 Mon, 01 Oct 2007 19:22:19 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19178451 ZipZilla : Just got off the phone with AT&T/Bellsouth...

Got the $42.95 + $5 for the Standalone Fast Access...took her awhile to look it up, but I'm all set for the voice line to go kaput at midnight.

she worked me over hard, offered free landline service for 6 months, I passed. I would still have to pay the taxes and fees (I'm sure) + I don't want to have to mess with it in 6 months.

Besides, before then, AT&T will probably align former Bellsouth territory Internet pricing with AT&T Yahoo DSL pricing and I'll be calling again.

I just saved at least $20 a month!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19178451 Mon, 01 Oct 2007 17:02:17 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19171602 skycam : I called the number on my ATT monthly bill. I mentioned bundle 97, and they had to look it up. It was no problem they said to do. I just have to make sure my security systme works on voip.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19171602 Sun, 30 Sep 2007 14:06:10 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19170564 ZipZilla : hey skycam

I live near you...what # did you call to get SAFA? I would love to save $23 a month. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19170564 Sun, 30 Sep 2007 10:17:27 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19162167 RogerADSL : BUN97 is unregualted so, no mandatory fees..not sure about state tax in SC, but I don't think it is taxed either. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19162167 Fri, 28 Sep 2007 17:53:33 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19162130 skycam : I just got off the phone talking to ATT about changing to Bundle 97 SAFA. I have the Extreme 6.0 and they quoted the new rate would be $42.95 plus $5.00 for stand alone. Have any of you experienced that you still have to pay taxes and "Mandatory" fees that add another $8.00 in my State which is SC. It still saves me about $23.00 a month for a line that I am not using.

Does anyone have any input?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19162130 Fri, 28 Sep 2007 17:45:11 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19160754 dot_null :
said by ropeguru See Profile :

If you are going with a dry line and using VoIP, you can always tie your ATA back into your phone wiring and do the same thing you are doing now with a regualar line.
... and to expand upon that thought, here is a guide that shows you how to tie the ATA to your internal wiring: »michigantelephone.mi.org/distribute.html

:)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19160754 Fri, 28 Sep 2007 13:55:10 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19160224 huckleberry : magicJack 20.00 yr]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19160224 Fri, 28 Sep 2007 12:32:27 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19146742 ropeguru :
said by chudel See Profile :

Hello,

While all of the "dry line" features sound great - esp. the price, I must admit I just can't give up the ability to have a phone in several rooms, and to be able to yell "pick up the extension" for a group family chat.

Since I have my nid run to a wiring closet in my house, are there any cellphone/distribution panels available? I'd most like to dock my cellphone at home and have it 'feed' the rest of the home's internal phone wiring.

I recall Sprint trying this a few years ago but haven't heard of anything recent.

Thoughts? Suggestions?
If you are going with a dry line and using VoIP, you can always tie your ATA back into your phone wiring and do the same thing you are doing now with a regualar line.

They do make dock stations for certain cell phones to hook a normal analog phone to.. I will see if I can find a link. Haven;t looked at them in a while.

EDIT: I think this is what you are looking for

»www.phonelabs.com/prd05.asp

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While all of the "dry line" features sound great - esp. the price, I must admit I just can't give up the ability to have a phone in several rooms, and to be able to yell "pick up the extension" for a group family chat.

Since I have my nid run to a wiring closet in my house, are there any cellphone/distribution panels available? I'd most like to dock my cellphone at home and have it 'feed' the rest of the home's internal phone wiring.

I recall Sprint trying this a few years ago but haven't heard of anything recent.

Thoughts? Suggestions?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19146597 Wed, 26 Sep 2007 11:06:10 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19142670 ZipZilla : seems you can't get SAFA online....

Dear Zipzilla,

Thank you for contacting AT&T regarding (xxx)xxx-xxxx.

Unfortunately, we will not be able to assist you from this department.
Please call the AT&T Service Center at 1-888-757-6500, option 4, Monday
through Friday, 8:00AM until 7:00PM EST or Saturday 8:00AM until 5:00PM
EST. A Service Representative will be glad to assist you.

Should you need further assistance or have other questions, please reply
back to this e-mail and the AT&T Online Customer Care team will be happy
to help you.

Sincerely,

Andrea
AT&T Online Customer Care]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19142670 Tue, 25 Sep 2007 18:20:36 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19142400 brandon : Was just told by "Sherri" on the phone that this order cannot be placed for bundle 97 without a "promotional code." Calling back...

Edit: Seems like "Laqueshia" is making it happen!

Edit2: HA! So after Laqueshia was making the order very smooth, she had to pass me on to another rep to disconnect the phone service. The conversation was kinda funny:

CSR: "How may I help you today?"

Me: We just finished ordering standalone DSL and need to disconnect the phone service.

CSR: You understand that there is not even 911 service on the standalone DSL? We could offer you a very basic line that has 911 service and the DSL service that would be cheaper than what you're paying for the standalone.

Me: No, that's ok, thank you.

CSR: But you don't think that 911 service is important? What if you have an emergency?

Me: No, I do agree that 911 service is important. (I almost laughed here)

CSR: So you want me to give you the bundle?

Me: No, the standalone DSL is what I want.

CSR: So you want to pay more and not have 911 service?

Me: Exactly.

CSR: Ok...just had to clarify...

Come on, surely these reps have to think that anyone ordering some obscure unadvertised bundle has done their homework on what is offered--in my case, I'm saving a free and clear $20 a month, and getting infinitely more service (Dropping DTV for cable, too). ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19142400 Tue, 25 Sep 2007 17:23:53 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19137583 ZipZilla : Submitted request online to switch to SAFA 6.0...will report back with results. in charleston, sc market. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19137583 Mon, 24 Sep 2007 21:13:07 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19136655 logic1977 : When you ported you number, your dsl was disconnected and that means your port gets put back into a pool for use. It is quite possible that it was reassigned for another user, and when you ordered your safa service, a new port was assigned to you which could require a dispatch to set up, and if the field guys are busy that is why the 5 day delay.

At the time of the port ATT would have no way to know you were going to order service again and there isn't really a way to hold a port. SO you have to start over like a brand new customer.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19136655 Mon, 24 Sep 2007 18:28:50 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19136083 harrijs :
said by ropeguru See Profile :

So, at this point, what would be the best procedure to be able to port a current POTS number that has DSL on it and get SAFA?

I am guessing that one would have to order a seperate SAFA line, then cancel the DSL on the current POTS line, and finally port the POTS number out.

Any thoughts??
I was able to port my number from BS to Teliax without incident. This process took 7 days. When the number was ported (today), my DSL access went away and I called to setup the Bundle 97. BS informed me that it will be Friday before my new service is provisioned. Since I already have all of the equipment, I am going to keep calling to try and get this expedited. I don't understand why it is going to take 5 days to provision service to a location that had service 5 hours ago. For people who are looking to do this down the road, it would be wise to setup the SAFA seperate from your current account, and when it is running, port your number and cancel the other service.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19136083 Mon, 24 Sep 2007 16:44:47 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19135370 Bobkd4dii : Just an update, I guess they have finally figured out what bundle 97 is. I just got off the phone with AT&T and changed over to the "dry line" service. Not saving a huge amount but I like it better in my pocket than theirs. Thanks again to the folks on here who helped me out with this.

Bob
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The aheader we go, the behinder we get.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19135370 Mon, 24 Sep 2007 14:52:05 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19118363 brandon :
said by lonewolfe38652 :

Does this cover all of Mississippi or is it a few select areas? Cable & DSL is not available where we are, only garbage dial-up here in the boonies.

If DSL isn't available, then standalone DSL isn't available.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19118363 Fri, 21 Sep 2007 11:50:13 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19117971 anon :
Does this cover all of Mississippi or is it a few select areas? Cable & DSL is not available where we are, only garbage dial-up here in the boonies.
]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19117971 Fri, 21 Sep 2007 10:36:08 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19117803 tigers : I just placed the order. Called and asked for "Standalone Fast Access" and she knew exactly what I wanted. Service will be active as soon as I get a modem.

Really a very smooth process via the phone which is contrast to their very poorly designed website that wanted me to sign up for local and long distance service before I could get DSL.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19117803 Fri, 21 Sep 2007 10:02:21 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19103561 murfster : OK, say I order SAFA ... and keep my 6.0 Ext (if that's even possible). Who are you guys recommending for a VOIP provider? Do I need a VOIP router and VOIP phones? Any recommendations on the hardware?
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UnitedGamerz]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19103561 Wed, 19 Sep 2007 05:51:21 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19097221 Jahntassa : Ordered yesterday in Zip 30013. Unfortunately they gave me a 2 week turnon time (Oct 2nd). Ouch! Last time I ordered DSL the line was on and running within a week, without anyone showing up! It was even on a house that had no current line.

Even better because I have my own modem and filters..argh. We'll see how this goes, but here's hoping!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19097221 Tue, 18 Sep 2007 10:55:07 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19085107 jorcmg : great information.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19085107 Sun, 16 Sep 2007 13:43:21 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19082714 anon : Hi, here's a bit of a twist. I called today and asked for bundle 97. The rep said I could get naked 6.0 for $47 a month, or I could keep my pots for $20 a month and they would reduce the price of my DSL to $22 per month for the next 6 months -- total of $42 a month. After six months I guess I call them again to see what new deal they've cooked up. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19082714 Sat, 15 Sep 2007 22:45:07 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19073652 bigjohn : Does this qualify for people who are served by Bell South IFITL?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19073652 Fri, 14 Sep 2007 12:02:56 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19072918 Killa200 : So i called this morning to get my line changed over to bundle 97. And while the worst of my news is that they still have nothing faster than extreme 3.0 for my area because we're pretty well over capacity in the area... the good news was the change took all of 7 minutes flat with no hint of trying to set me up with another service.

WooHoo for dry line dsl, and hello broadvoice voip account!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19072918 Fri, 14 Sep 2007 09:59:18 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19066818 anon : Thank You so much!!!!!! After getting the run around for over 2 weeks, I was finally able to switch to stand alone DSL!!!!!! I read your comments and asked for SAFAL + DSL Xtrme 6.0! I don't understand why I was getting the run around before. Anyway, thanks again!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19066818 Thu, 13 Sep 2007 11:25:12 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19061981 Bobkd4dii : Thanks for the responses, I will give it a shot. If they insist on bundling it with wireless no problem as we have ATT wireless. Thanks again ropeguru and bluepoint.

Bob
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said by Bobkd4dii See Profile :

Anyone in Florida had any luck with this. I just changed back to BS and went with having a no frills line and 3 meg DSL. I have been using VOIP for years, be nice to switch over to a dry line and save a few bucks.

Bob
A lot of people have had good luck in getting this done for them. I have not been so lucky and for now have had to give up due to work load and travel.

See my thread here:

»Didn't know it would be so tough...

BTW - I still haven't had a call back from AT&T. SOunds like to me they are just telling people this when they don't have a clue just to get them off the phone and keep call times down in the off shore call centers.
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said by Bobkd4dii See Profile :

Anyone in Florida had any luck with this. I just changed back to BS and went with having a no frills line and 3 meg DSL. I have been using VOIP for years, be nice to switch over to a dry line and save a few bucks.

Bob
Its in FL.... just call and ask for it... :-) just remember to ask for BUNDLE 97 and also if you are told you need Wireless or some other Affiliate you are not being told correctly

Bundle 97 is open to all customers new and existing without purchasing or bundling any other services.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19056019 Tue, 11 Sep 2007 20:09:44 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19055955 travelguy :
said by mikes60 See Profile :

I believe your DishNetwork and alarm system need POTS access.

Some alarm systems can be adapted to work over VOIP, but you'd have to check with your alarm company.
FWIW, when I had Dish it worked just fine with my Vonage line. My alarm system worked just fine as well, although you need to be careful. My system was not monitored and just sent me a page when an event occurred.

If you rely on your alarm system to get a "monitored system" discount on your insurance, using VOIP may void the UL cert on the alarm and thus void your discount.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19055955 Tue, 11 Sep 2007 20:01:32 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19055766 Bobkd4dii : Anyone in Florida had any luck with this. I just changed back to BS and went with having a no frills line and 3 meg DSL. I have been using VOIP for years, be nice to switch over to a dry line and save a few bucks.

Bob
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said by JaxMan :

Well I just got off the phone with AT&T and have successfully changed over to Naked (Dry Loop) DSL. I went with Bundle 97 (includes cell) xtreme 3.0 for $42.95 + state tax + my cell pan. Surprisingly, this only took a total of 20 minutes.
There are no taxes on "internet service" in the state of Florida.. Taxes on Cell phone service are another story. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18986909 Fri, 31 Aug 2007 13:09:03 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18986697 davoice :
said by JaxMan :

I believe that the key to quick service is in making them aware that you know the bundle names and have done your research. Thanks to this forum, I was able to do that.
I won't say it's THE key but it certainly helps shortcut the process in most cases. Remember there's always the chance there'll be an idiot at one end of the phone. :P

}Davoice]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18986697 Fri, 31 Aug 2007 12:31:49 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18986671 anon : I forgot to mention in the above post that I am in Jacksonville, FL (one of the original cities to receive the offering). So that too may have made a difference in the response time.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18986671 Fri, 31 Aug 2007 12:28:22 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18986657 anon : Well I just got off the phone with AT&T and have successfully changed over to Naked (Dry Loop) DSL. I went with Bundle 97 (includes cell) xtreme 3.0 for $42.95 + state tax + my cell pan. Surprisingly, this only took a total of 20 minutes.

I did have to speak with two sales people (one in DSL and the second in cellular), which was due to the home phone being my name while the cell phones are in my wife's name.

I believe that the key to quick service is in making them aware that you know the bundle names and have done your research. Thanks to this forum, I was able to do that.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18986657 Fri, 31 Aug 2007 12:25:48 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18983194 mikes60 :
said by bluepoint951 See Profile :

said by mikes60 See Profile :

I think that is bundle 66. But that usually only includes Ultra at $60.00. Extreme is supposed to be $10.00 more (see post earlier in this thread. If you got Extreme at that price, good for you.
There are two bundles... Bun65 and Bun66.... see this post i made..New August 1st Bundles...

he could have gotten BUN65 $50 Double Play and add $10 for Xtreme 6.0 DSL....

hope this helps...
I thought unlimited LD only came with BUN66. At least that's what they told me when I called.
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Edit: Interesting BUN65 and BUN66 seem the same, except for the DTV or Wireless plan requirements.

66 seems to be for "customers contemplating leaving", while 65 is for "competitive acquisition customers".

To confusing to spend any more time on it.

BUN66: »cpr.bellsouth.com/pdf/fl/filings···-124.pdf

BUN5: »cpr.bellsouth.com/pdf/fl/filings···-125.pdf]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18983194 Thu, 30 Aug 2007 21:14:05 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18983120 bluepoint951 :
said by mikes60 See Profile :

I think that is bundle 66. But that usually only includes Ultra at $60.00. Extreme is supposed to be $10.00 more (see post earlier in this thread. If you got Extreme at that price, good for you.
There are two bundles... Bun65 and Bun66.... see this post i made..New August 1st Bundles...

he could have gotten BUN65 $50 Double Play and add $10 for Xtreme 6.0 DSL....

hope this helps...
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Well, I received a call from Vonage saying that my number couldn't be ported because of my dsl service. Well, I really wanted to keep my number so i called bellsouth/att and was told that even though I would no longer have phone service that the phone number would still be linked to my dsl service so that number couldn't be transferred!!

After nearly 1.5 hrs. on the phone they offered me dsl 6.0 extreme, local phone service, and unlimited long distance for $60.00 + 7.32 in gov fees + 3.00 in taxes. Since I was going to pay for VOIP instead of just using my cell phone this is a better deal for me. The line only comes with caller id and 2 way calling, but I already had an answering machine so those features are fine with me.

SO WHY DID I HAVE TO SPEND A TOTAL OF 3.5 HRS ON THE PHONE FOR THEM TO HELP ME SLASH MY BILL!

There is no bundle for this package, but I was told it became available Aug. 1 in an effort to keep existing customers from terminating their phone service.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18979844 Thu, 30 Aug 2007 11:36:08 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18974033 mikes60 :
said by DSLman :

About the profit from higher prices in the old BellSouth region, someone could contact their state public service commission and ask why AT&T charges a higher rate in their state for the same service that is offered at lower rates in other AT&T states.
Unless it is a federally regulated service, which it isn't, they can charge whatever they want- wherever they want.

I think all their pricing will eventually be standardized, as will their TOS, but for now they are, and can be, totally different.
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said by DSLman :

About the profit from higher prices in the old BellSouth region, someone could contact their state public service commission and ask why AT&T charges a higher rate in their state for the same service that is offered at lower rates in other AT&T states.
They could if it was a regulated product.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18973499 Wed, 29 Aug 2007 13:52:58 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18973344 anon : About the profit from higher prices in the old BellSouth region, someone could contact their state public service commission and ask why AT&T charges a higher rate in their state for the same service that is offered at lower rates in other AT&T states.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18973344 Wed, 29 Aug 2007 13:27:42 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18972564 jtudor :
said by NetFixer See Profile :

OT: Am I the only one who has noticed that BellSouth (or at least some divisions of BellSouth) seems to be resisting being absorbed into the AT&T monolith? Has BellSouth not heard that resistance is futile? ;)
I am not sure that it's BellSouth resisting the Borg, I suspect it is more that the Borg is not applying all it's policies in BS territory yet, gaining as much profit from higher prices as they can. :(
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said by Surfinusa See Profile :

said by logic1977 See Profile :

What is the $10 credit for? Most of theother credit were for bundling pots & wireless, or POTS and DTV etc... so since this is DSL only where does the $10 come from?
GOOD QUESTION I HAVE NO CLUE HOW THEY CAME UP WITH THE $10 FROM??????? ANYONE ANYONE ????
The "credit" is a marketing ploy, where is the mystery? Companies frequently offer credits and cash back deals to induce people into purchasing their products and/or services. Where is the mystery?

If you insist that the "credit" must be for something tangible, it would appear the the standard price for a single dry wire pair is $15.00, and a $10.00 credit is given to SAFA subscribers for bundling the FastAccess service with a dry line. The screen shot image below taken from the "My BellSouth Services" section of bellsouth.com shows that the dry line is itemized as a separate item from the FastAccess service.

[att=1]

And yes, AT&T/BellSouth does indeed lease dry wire pairs without their DSL service being part of the deal. I already had a dry BellSouth line being used with my Covad DSL service prior to getting the SAFA deal. BellSouth was/is in no way involved in supplying the DSL service on that line because Covad has their own DSLAM. Bellsouth simply supplies the physical copper wire pair.


OT: Am I the only one who has noticed that BellSouth (or at least some divisions of BellSouth) seems to be resisting being absorbed into the AT&T monolith? Has BellSouth not heard that resistance is futile? ;)
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18970307 Tue, 28 Aug 2007 23:43:35 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18969491 Surfinusa :
said by logic1977 See Profile :

said by bluepoint951 See Profile :

Key Points:

This Bundle is NEW/REVISED as of August 1st.
There are NO requirements for Wireless, DirecTV, or POTS.
The Bundle is available to ALL customers that are eligible and/or have DSL
The SAFA Line is $15, the bundle gives a $10 credit.
The Bundle requires DSL ULTRA/XTREME 3.0/ XTREME 6.0; LITE is not eligible.
This Bundle is an UNREGULATED service.
This Bundle is for AT&T-SE customers only at the present moment.

What is the $10 credit for? Most of theother credit were for bundling pots & wireless, or POTS and DTV etc... so since this is DSL only where does the $10 come from?
GOOD QUESTION I HAVE NO CLUE HOW THEY CAME UP WITH THE $10 FROM??????? ANYONE ANYONE ????]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18969491 Tue, 28 Aug 2007 21:45:02 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18966729 anon : Sorry, I should have included that, shouldn't I? I'm in West Palm Beach FL (WPBHFLRP). I asked for Bundle 66, and the rep I spoke to knew right away what it was, and set me up.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18966729 Tue, 28 Aug 2007 14:44:09 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18965946 anon : On the phone right now with them the BUN97 is available in my area getting the SAFAL + DSL Xtrme 6.0=$47.95 plan. I live in Clover, SC 29710 former BS area if anyone was interested. She did give me a phone # that's associated with the line but it will not be active.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18965946 Tue, 28 Aug 2007 12:36:11 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18965686 whodean : Here is my question, I would be new to ATT...can I sign up for this SAFA and get the bundle with DirecTV? The bundle I want is the one they are advertising where if you buy the NFL package you get 4 months of platinum level DirecTV service for free.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18965686 Tue, 28 Aug 2007 11:44:07 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18965317 bluepoint951 :
said by ropeguru See Profile :

So, at this point, what would be the best procedure to be able to port a current POTS number that has DSL on it and get SAFA?

I am guessing that one would have to order a seperate SAFA line, then cancel the DSL on the current POTS line, and finally port the POTS number out.

Any thoughts??
My friend that changed his POTS line to CallVantage did this :

1. Changed Class of Service to 1FR and a Ringmaster Number
2. Changed the Main POTS number to Ringmaster.
3. Port out the Ringmaster to CallVanatage.
4. Change POTS line to SAFA.

Took him about 2 weeks; one thing to keep in mind is that the Change to 1FR RingMaster and the change of the Main Line Number to the RingMaster Number but be completed before LNP can begin, shouldn't take more than 2 business day to have that work done though.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18965317 Tue, 28 Aug 2007 10:44:02 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18965259 ropeguru : So, at this point, what would be the best procedure to be able to port a current POTS number that has DSL on it and get SAFA?

I am guessing that one would have to order a seperate SAFA line, then cancel the DSL on the current POTS line, and finally port the POTS number out.

Any thoughts??
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said by glparker4 See Profile :

I called BellSouth/AT&T this morning to order standalone fast access DSL. The first gentleman that I spoke to informed me that he would need to transfer me to a "specialist" so that they can remove phone service on my account and keep DSL. I specifically requested Bundle 97.

However, the specialist informed that stand alone DSL is not available in my area (Atlanta, GA). She said that it is available as a trial in parts of Florida. However, she did give me a $20/month credit on my bill for the next six months which offsets the cost of the phone line. She explained that stand alone DSL should be available in my area soon but she didn't know when.
Whom ever you were speaking to was incorrect, there have been quite a few from the Atlanta arean in this thread that have either ordered or switched to BUN97. I suggest you call in once again. This bundle is available anywhere AT&T-SE offers DSL.

Remember that the objective of the company is to keep you with their voice products, however, it is you who ultimately pay for the service. Don't let the rep tell you what you want you; tell the rep what you want. Trust me I had to push quite a bit to get there. It's in their system they just don't want to make it well known.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18965097 Tue, 28 Aug 2007 10:00:23 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18964857 glparker4 : I called BellSouth/AT&T this morning to order standalone fast access DSL. The first gentleman that I spoke to informed me that he would need to transfer me to a "specialist" so that they can remove phone service on my account and keep DSL. I specifically requested Bundle 97.

However, the specialist informed that stand alone DSL is not available in my area (Atlanta, GA). She said that it is available as a trial in parts of Florida. However, she did give me a $20/month credit on my bill for the next six months which offsets the cost of the phone line. She explained that stand alone DSL should be available in my area soon but she didn't know when.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18964857 Tue, 28 Aug 2007 09:13:49 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18961718 bluepoint951 :
said by Airwolf7 See Profile :

You said you just ordered Bundle 66, I'm curious as to what state you are located in and can you tell us what all comes with the Bundle 66? When you called did you ask for Bundle 66 or did they offer you Bundle 66?

Thank you in advance.
BUNDLE 66 - $60 Double Play

2 Pack plan (Caller IDDlx & Call Waiting Dlx)
AT&T Nationwide Unlimited LD
FastAccess DSL Ultra

Avaliable Upgrades?
DSL Xtreme 3.0 $5 or DSL Xtreme 6.0 $10]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18961718 Mon, 27 Aug 2007 19:13:21 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18961278 Mizzat :
said by davoice See Profile :

Skycam according to annecodotal reports, your phone # will remain in their database as long as you just convert to SAFA instead of canceling and starting over. They keep the old phone # as your account number. Any time in the future you can re-activate phone service w/ that as the phone #.
That is correct.

said by davoice See Profile :

In practice it looks like they're also using it to assign a DID to each customer to overcome the fact that their databases all use the customer phone # as a primary key.
That is not necessarily correct, they can have account numbers that are not a phone number and in fact even have letters in the account "number" for example if you buy just a T1 from them, it does not run over a phone line and your account number will have a letter in it. However, since DSL runs over phone lines, your account number should be a phone number.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18961278 Mon, 27 Aug 2007 18:06:32 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18961177 davoice : Skycam according to annecodotal reports, your phone # will remain in their database as long as you just convert to SAFA instead of canceling and starting over. They keep the old phone # as your account number. Any time in the future you can re-activate phone service w/ that as the phone #.

In theory, that's part of what they charge $5 extra for on the SAFA - to pay for the line allocation and maintenance. In practice it looks like they're also using it to assign a DID to each customer to overcome the fact that their databases all use the customer phone # as a primary key.

Today when I signed up for SAFA I was given an account # that contains a local phone number in the CO from which my DSL will be provisioned. (I checked.)

}Davoice]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18961177 Mon, 27 Aug 2007 17:48:09 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18961155 davoice : Just ordered SAFA (BUN97) for myself to adjunct my TW/RR Turbo (8x512 in this market).

I asked for "Bundle 97" by name when the rep asked how she could help. Her response was "Ok, you want stand alone fast access, ok."

That was the easy part. Then we had to basically reverse engineer Bellsouth's database so it could find me. I've never had Bellsouth phone service (moved here from Dallas and have Time Warner Digital Phone). Luckily I knew this area used to be called a different city and had a different zip code 3 years ago. And the rep was smart enough to figure out the weird abbreviation for my street name (spelled out, it's 36 characters - way longer than most databases allow).

Then we had to figure out how to put in a different physical address (to account for the change in city names and zip code from the service address) for the modem/activation shipment and a different billing address for my bill since we have no postal service delivery out here and have to go to the Post Office to get our mail at a PO Box.

Kudos to Amanda for sticking it out and not BSing her way through it.

They have gotten smart on the script. She had a whole paragraph to read about the line not having regular dial-tone, not being able to use it to make calls, not having 911 service, and not being able to use it with alarm systems or TiVo.

}Davoice]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18961155 Mon, 27 Aug 2007 17:44:10 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18961093 Airwolf7 : You said you just ordered Bundle 66, I'm curious as to what state you are located in and can you tell us what all comes with the Bundle 66? When you called did you ask for Bundle 66 or did they offer you Bundle 66?

Thank you in advance.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18961093 Mon, 27 Aug 2007 17:31:49 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18961025 skycam : I have been following the postings here, but I have a couple of questions. I currently have both Extreme 6.0 and local dial tone from ATT. In addition I have ViaTalk Voip, along with a Grand Central Account.

I have had my local phone number for 18 years, and I would like to preserve it, however, I would like to get rid of my local dial tone, and only keep the DSL Extreme 6.0. With taxes and fees, it should save me almost $25.00 a month. We do not answer the local number because it is just telemarketers, even though I am on the Federal Do not call list. I would like to preserve my number because it spells my name.

I would appreciate any suggestions that any of you have.

Thanks]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18961025 Mon, 27 Aug 2007 17:20:37 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18958530 anon : Just ordered the Bundle 66. Rep was knowledgeable and helpful. Price with 6 meg DSL Extreme 67.50/mo. Change should be effective by midnight tonight. Quite a drop from what I was paying.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18958530 Mon, 27 Aug 2007 11:14:04 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18949520 dot_null :
said by ke4rzi See Profile :

So that's what I was getting back then. So how much would the 1.5 Mbps. stand alone ADSL cost I wonder?
The dry line DSL Ultra (1.5 Mbps/256 Kbps) package is $37.95 ($32.95 + $5 SAFAL fee).]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18949520 Sat, 25 Aug 2007 18:01:49 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18949308 ke4rzi : It just so happens that I had entered the line statistics I had gotten from the menu of my Alcatel STH in a previous ISP review from back in 05.

> Operational data report : near end (Downstream)

> -----------------------------------------------

> Attainable line rate : 2356 kbit/sec

> Attainable Atm rate : 2016 kbit/sec

> Used line rate : 1760 kbit/sec

> Fast used Atm rate : 1472 kbit/sec

> Interleaved used Atm rate : 0 kbits/sec

> Rel. capacity occupation : 75

> Noise Margin : 10 dB

> Line attenuation : 65 dB

> Output Power : 18 dBm

>

> Operational data report : far end (Upstream)

> --------------------------------------------

> Attainable line rate : 904 kbit/sec

> Attainable Atm rate : 800 kbit/sec

> Used line rate : 348 kbit/sec

> Fast used Atm rate : 256 kbit/sec

> Interleaved used Atm rate : 0 kbits/sec

> Rel. capacity occupation : 38

> Noise Margin : 15 dB

> Line attenuation : 37 dB

> Output Power : 1 dBm

So that's what I was getting back then. So how much would the 1.5 Mbps. stand alone ADSL cost I wonder?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18949308 Sat, 25 Aug 2007 17:25:57 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18949197 dot_null : The 6100 is a great little modem. Mine has worked flawlessly since day 1.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18949197 Sat, 25 Aug 2007 17:07:05 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18949148 NetFixer :
said by ke4rzi See Profile :

Ok, what I'd like to know is the exact price that you guys have been quoted for what speed packages?

I have had Bellsouth ADSL in the past and used my own Alcatel Speed Touch Home modem and with that modem I could only get maybe 2 Mbps. max speed. So I might as well only sign up for the 1.5 Mbps. service if I did sign up. I was just curious how much it is costing people who opt for the stand alone DSL. I have no AT&T service of any kind currently.

Possibly if I got a newer DSL modem it might allow higher download speeds than my old Alcatel. Any thoughts?
The price I was quoted for 3.0 SAFA Xtreme was 37.95.

Your comment about the Alcatel STH piqued my curiosity, so I brought mine out of retirement for a test. When setup for a 8/35 LLC/SNAP bridged connection, mine was able to sync to 3552/384 and testing at »speakeasy.net/speedtest produced a speed result of 3044/314. If your Alcatel STH was never able to sync at greater than 2mbps downstream, then you are possibly just too far away from the CO to get a better sync rate (I am ~12,000 ft from the CO).

My understanding is that the new Westell 6100 modems are capable of better sync than the Alcatel STH and the older Westell modems, so you may be surprised if you just let them send you one of the new Westell 6100 modems. I was not given a choice, I was automatically sent a Westell 6100, and it seems to be working with no problems in bridge mode with my existing wireless router.
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When I first got the service I was getting slow speeds too but it turned out to be my router so don't rule out anything until you have checked all your equipment.
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I have had Bellsouth ADSL in the past and used my own Alcatel Speed Touch Home modem and with that modem I could only get maybe 2 Mbps. max speed. So I might as well only sign up for the 1.5 Mbps. service if I did sign up. I was just curious how much it is costing people who opt for the stand alone DSL. I have no AT&T service of any kind currently.

Possibly if I got a newer DSL modem it might allow higher download speeds than my old Alcatel. Any thoughts?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18948315 Sat, 25 Aug 2007 13:53:59 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18945745 anon :
said by imanogre See Profile :

I'm up and running on my SAFA line. Didn't get the offer of a rebate on my modem though like some other posters. Got the Westell $100 modem with router. Anyone care to share a link to the rebate perhaps?
i got safa too and the csr told me i am going to get $75 cash back and not a rebate. it sound weird to me that i'm getting a cash back, i thought i would have to fill out some rebate form but guess not. also she told me i'm getting an extra $15 for signing up with her too. man i hope she is not lying to me. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18945745 Sat, 25 Aug 2007 00:00:33 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18942926 tonystewart : I just changed by service SAFA, 15 minutes on the phone saves me at least $15 a month.

Thanks to everyone on the forum]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18942926 Fri, 24 Aug 2007 17:01:12 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18940472 statecop : I just ordered and it took about 15-20 minutes. The first rep I talk to said I had to have DTV or cell service. I ask her to double check and I was told it changed. She checked and said you are right...then transfered me to another number and it was completed with no problem.

GREAT FIND!!!!!!!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18940472 Fri, 24 Aug 2007 10:20:31 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18939088 NetFixer :
said by imanogre See Profile :

I'm up and running on my SAFA line. Didn't get the offer of a rebate on my modem though like some other posters. Got the Westell $100 modem with router. Anyone care to share a link to the rebate perhaps?
I was not able to find anywhere to order my SAFA service on-line, and I think modem rebates only apply to on-line orders. Did you manage to order your SAFA service on-line?

said by FastAccess® DSL :

Special Offer     FREE modem after rebate ($75 value) when you order online
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said by imanogre See Profile :

Anyone care to share a link to the rebate perhaps?
Try »rewardcenter.att.com/
or »att.com/bellsouthrewards]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18939078 Fri, 24 Aug 2007 01:26:13 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18939033 imanogre : I'm up and running on my SAFA line. Didn't get the offer of a rebate on my modem though like some other posters. Got the Westell $100 modem with router. Anyone care to share a link to the rebate perhaps?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18939033 Fri, 24 Aug 2007 01:14:28 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18936006 NetFixer : My new AT&T Stand Alone FastAccess Xtreme service was just activated (the line tech left about 45 minutes ago).

The only problem was that it took three days and numerous calls and emails to get the cross-connects at the CO and the local pedestal done. I had problems getting anyone to understand that this was a new dry circuit, not a line share circuit to an existing POTS line and that there were no preexisting cross-connects. The folks at FastAccess support were all convinced that the circuit was functioning properly, but I just did not have the modem connected properly.
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said by ropeguru See Profile :

Just as easy to setup and certainly easier to manage.
I guess that depends on the site and the industry. It is quite common around here to find the prime contractors trailer served by a T into a channel bank for both voice and data with a VPN box and a totally separate ADSL line connected to a wireless router wide open for the rest of the dogs.

Wayne
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Just as easy to setup and certainly easier to manage.
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said by Claybraker See Profile :

said by Amadeus See Profile :

Why would a business need more than just dsl line?

Are they combining the lines to get more bandwidth?
Redundancy for one, at least in small business. Also, DSL lines are pretty handy to allow outside contractors, etc, internet access without letting them inside the firewall.

I know a couple of locations with an OC-192 for the main pipe, and a few dozen piddly DSL lines to allow visitors and contractors internet access, without allowing them inside the firewall.
Redundancy ? Why would you get a second dsl line that would most likly be from the same company for Redundancy ? If want Redundancy you should get a line from some other company and maybe if possible from another provider type like cable etc.

As for contractors and internet access i wouldn't get another dsl line for that. I would give than access to an account that would locked down from the desktop to the internet just by using the security resources already in place.
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said by Amadeus See Profile :

Why would a business need more than just dsl line?

Are they combining the lines to get more bandwidth?
Redundancy for one, at least in small business. Also, DSL lines are pretty handy to allow outside contractors, etc, internet access without letting them inside the firewall.

I know a couple of locations with an OC-192 for the main pipe, and a few dozen piddly DSL lines to allow visitors and contractors internet access, without allowing them inside the firewall.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18922748 Tue, 21 Aug 2007 22:04:18 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18922680 Amadeus :
said by Mizzat See Profile :

Segmenting networks, getting more bandwidth for power users, one for hotspots for public and one for private, warehouses need one on either side and it is too far to network, easier to get another DSL at a different telephone jack (I've had them do it all). Many reasons, my friend.
I will take those reasons in to consideration because we can't get the 6.0 plan and we need more bandwidth asap.
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said by Mizzat See Profile :

My speculations are that it will be offered eventually, but not at all for the reasons you mentioned. There are VERY few business customers with just one line and I've seen many customer that already have DSL on multiple lines.
Why would a business need more than just dsl line?

Are they combining the lines to get more bandwidth?
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David]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18902094 Sat, 18 Aug 2007 18:02:51 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18901284 krayzie bone : WOW i just got off the phone with a very nice rep whose name will not be mentioned (if you read this thanks!!!) and he said there is another bundle called bundle 66 which for $60 includes unlimited local and long distance with call waiting and caller ID ONLY and FA Ultra DSL for $60. Or you can add extreme service for $65/70. That's still not a bad deal at all IMO if you don't wanna deal with the hassle of switching over to a VOIP service. I'm guessing with taxes and junk fees it will be something like $80? I pay around $130 for the same service so that's still a significant discount. Just thought i'd throw it out there if anyone else can confirm this. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18901284 Sat, 18 Aug 2007 15:07:40 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18901112 krayzie bone : hmmm i've called a couple times and no dice. First rep told me that i had to have wireless service to get the deal. After insisting that he ask his manager again, he then tells me that I can get it w/o wireless, but the bill would not reflect a credit for the line (so i'd be paying the same if had a line and DSL).

second time I called, the rep was more helpful, but while I was on hold, the line disconnected for some reason (coincidence or not). i've wasted an hour already, but i'm gonna keep trying...hopefully third time is the charm =)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18901112 Sat, 18 Aug 2007 14:33:09 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18899985 kendive : I would love to get this and switch to Verizon VOIP service.

Bellsouth/ATT has had our POTS line screwed up since I have move into this brand new house two years ago....

Issues such as No Dial Tone, Noise in line, and Crossing our line with the neighbors two doors down... and That happens alot...

Matter of fact it just started again last night and again I can't get phone calls because they go to his phone... How screwed up is that...

I am about to can ATT all toghther and file a complaint to the PSC and have ATT fined for the outage problems and Closing outage tickets when our line is still not working...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18899985 Sat, 18 Aug 2007 10:23:37 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18897880 Alton21 : Just changed today to Stand Alone FastAccess.
SAFAL + DSL Xtrme 6.0 = $47.95
Available in Mississippi.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18897880 Fri, 17 Aug 2007 21:51:58 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18894912 bobdat : "This Bundle is NEW/REVISED as of August 1st.
There are NO requirements for Wireless, DirecTV, or POTS.
The Bundle is available to ALL customers that are eligible and/or have DSL
The SAFA Line is $15, the bundle gives a $10 credit.
The Bundle requires DSL ULTRA/XTREME 3.0/ XTREME 6.0; LITE is not eligible.
This Bundle is an UNREGULATED service."

In response to that info, I phoned AT&T 888-757-6500 today and tried to order naked DSL. First two calls, both reps said I had to have POTS, even after I told them to look for Bundle 97. Had to hang up on both of them because they got argumentative with me.

The third rep was very helpful and took my order immediately. Assigned a throwaway 407AC telephone number "for reference" and established exactly what's quoted above.

Also, got $75 rebate for hookup, NO CONTRACT, and a wireless modem for $100 plus a $100 rebate to pay for the modem. Can't complain about that.

Supposed to be completed by 8/22. I just may boot Brighthouse because of reliability issues if all goes well with AT&T. I'll post back after activiation.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18894912 Fri, 17 Aug 2007 14:20:46 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18894397 imanogre : Well,
I was told for years that I couldn't get DSL on my phone line because "line" didn't qualify for service.... yet my next door neighbors on both sides had DSL.

So I cancelled my voice service a couple of months back and have been using EVDO.

I called today and low and behold, I can get Bundle97 at my home.

Go figure.

Anyway, i ordered today and they say I can get this service. So thanks to the OP.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18894397 Fri, 17 Aug 2007 13:06:12 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18894330 NerdMods : Ordered mine, should be ready by monday.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18894330 Fri, 17 Aug 2007 12:56:05 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18894032 anon : Oops. Hi Mizzat. I'm sorry I didn't register. ..I'll do that before I respond again.

Thanks so much for the link.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18894032 Fri, 17 Aug 2007 12:03:52 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18893876 Mizzat : Hi Jill,

I don't think you can really count it as your first post until you register :)

AT&T Southeast hasn't launcehed the $20 DSL yet, I don't believe. This article should tell you what you are looking for:

»Come On AT&T, Get Naked]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18893876 Fri, 17 Aug 2007 11:39:10 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18893598 anon : I did read that. I was wondering if it was being offered for the $19.99 price to existing customers, and what the total price is, when the bill actually comes in.

Also wanted to know if asking for BUN97 will streamline you through the torturous process I went through today, to no avail.

Thanks for answering me.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18893598 Fri, 17 Aug 2007 11:01:59 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18893483 ropeguru : Did you read this line from the post above??

The Bundle requires DSL ULTRA/XTREME 3.0/ XTREME 6.0; LITE is not eligible.
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I am a current customer of ATT and I have phone service and DSL lite at present. I called BellSouth/ATT this morning to ask for stand alone DSL.

I had not read this forum until now, and I really wish I would have read it before I called.

So, I called the 757-6500 number and asked about dropping my phone line and keeping my DSL lite...I had heard that BS/ATT would have to offer $19.99 stand alone as a condition of the merger.

Well I was first told, "You have to bundle with Cingular wireless." Then I was told, "That's for new customers only." Then I was offered stand-alone FAst Access Ultra for $32.95 month plus $5 access + tax. That comes out to $40 and is hardly the price that ATT was required to offer through the merger.

So, if you all can give me some advice on how to drop my phone line and keep my DSL without having to pay $40 a month just for DSL, I'd really appreciate it.

I am a current phone/DSL customer, so what happens if I ask for bundle97? I'm at a loss.

Thanks for any help!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18893209 Fri, 17 Aug 2007 10:09:10 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18892831 logic1977 :
said by bluepoint951 See Profile :

Key Points:

This Bundle is NEW/REVISED as of August 1st.
There are NO requirements for Wireless, DirecTV, or POTS.
The Bundle is available to ALL customers that are eligible and/or have DSL
The SAFA Line is $15, the bundle gives a $10 credit.
The Bundle requires DSL ULTRA/XTREME 3.0/ XTREME 6.0; LITE is not eligible.
This Bundle is an UNREGULATED service.
This Bundle is for AT&T-SE customers only at the present moment.

What is the $10 credit for? Most of theother credit were for bundling pots & wireless, or POTS and DTV etc... so since this is DSL only where does the $10 come from?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18892831 Fri, 17 Aug 2007 09:01:10 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18890651 bluepoint951 :
said by Mizzat See Profile :

I guess we need to fix this:

»/faq/2612

If you really want naked DSL: If you have a phone line currently, call the business office and disconnect the phone line, but ask to keep the DSL. If you want DSL only, and have no service, I think you have to call them as well, and not DSL directly, as they setup the "local service" and order the naked DSL with it. I'm not positive if DSL sales is able to do the naked DSL if you have no current service, though I'm sure they can soon if not now. I'm sure someone will come along and let us know for sure.
All you need to do is call the Business Office..... (888)757.6500..... Business Office issues the order Converting POTS to SAFAL. IF a new customer they set up SAFAL and the DSL Service.

You are not disconnecting the phoneline, in terms of the network side of things the line/dialtone still exists, but you just cannot break the dialtone with Rotary or TouchTone nor make phone calls.

DSL/DSG only handle tech support/billing questions. DSL Sales is handled though the Business Office, if you've ever called to order DSL previously (Prior to Aug 1st) its was handled by one group who set up the POTS line and DSL never a call to set up POTS then transfered to DSL/DSG to set up DSL.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18890651 Thu, 16 Aug 2007 22:08:01 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18889738 ropeguru : THis has really got me torn now. I would love to drop POTS service, however, AT&T is giving good download speeds of 6.3Mb and upload of 512kb. Comcast has apparently gotten their act together in my area and I am now seeing 11Mb PowerBoost speeds with consistent 6Mb service afterwards, 1.5Mb PowerBoost upload with consistent 320kb or so up afterwards.

Issue I have is that on the maxsync profile with AT&T I am sitting around a 9db noise margin so I am about maxed out on speed. With Comcast, it is proven I can get 8+Mb very easily.

Decisions, decisions...
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»/faq/2612

If you really want naked DSL: If you have a phone line currently, call the business office and disconnect the phone line, but ask to keep the DSL. If you want DSL only, and have no service, I think you have to call them as well, and not DSL directly, as they setup the "local service" and order the naked DSL with it. I'm not positive if DSL sales is able to do the naked DSL if you have no current service, though I'm sure they can soon if not now. I'm sure someone will come along and let us know for sure.
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Looks like my screenshot made the front page. :D]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18888344 Thu, 16 Aug 2007 16:15:20 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18888181 prestonlewis :
said by aa :

thanks a lot, but what about the home phone after we get SAFA, will it keep working and do we neeed to call customer care for disonnection of home phone.. after the home phone goes i would awitch to LIngo.. i hope there should be no problems
When you call to order SAFA, tell them to cancel your voice at the same time. With SAFA, you can't have voice anyway.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18888181 Thu, 16 Aug 2007 15:55:38 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18887910 Yippz Voip :
said by FAQFixer See Profile :

said by Yippz Voip See Profile :

Bottom line -- voip works -- bye bye useless dialtone now that we can get BUN97!!! :)
Just curious...how much do you think you will save a month?
I have 2 BS lines with rollover at home which I was getting rid of eventually - but to even drop the service to 1 metered line which is about $7-10 + taxes, I figure about $120-$150 a year for a line I'll never use.

My DSL is so rock solid, and has been for several years, that my voip services (Vonage, VBuzzer and Gizmo) work flawlessly -- in fact, they are louder and clearer than my BS lines.

As soon as I can get rid of my 2 BS lines, BUN97 here I come...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18887910 Thu, 16 Aug 2007 15:19:54 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18885122 ropeguru : Here will be one to try and get done.

If you are already a POTS customer with DSL on the line, who wants to bet that if you want stand alone FA, that you WILL lose your POTS number completely and unable to port it, UNLESS you order a standalone that is seperate from you current DSL, have to pay double to cost for a few weeks, cancel your DSL tied to your current POTS, THEN have to wait to have your current POTS number ported out ot a VOIP provider.

Any way you go you are going to have to pay extra to keep that POTS number.
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Regarding the BUN96 vs BUN97. I've seen it referenced both ways, but I guess when they do the order they put BUN97 on the account. Both of them are on the promotions matrix.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18883404 Wed, 15 Aug 2007 22:26:09 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18882750 bluepoint951 : I guess i did make a find lol.....

My advice to those who are having trouble, to get to an AT&T service rep in AT&T-SE Call 1(888)757.6500,\.

If you are an exisiting customer enter your telephone number, then when the menu begins playing press 0 until you are transfered to a Sales/Customer Service rep.

New customers press option 1 (or star depending on what the message says)

Once you get them on the line tell them you want Bundle 97, if they insist it is not avaliable or requires wireless tell them to look at their "Bundle Matrix" for August 2007 or for them to ask their manager. If they presist that thier are requirements ask for their manager; if promised a call back, be firm and ask for a manager on the spot.

DSL Billing and Customer Serivce is required to transfer customers to Sales/Customer Service for POTS to issue the order to change or setup SAFA.

Key Points:

This Bundle is NEW/REVISED as of August 1st.
There are NO requirements for Wireless, DirecTV, or POTS.
The Bundle is available to ALL customers that are eligible and/or have DSL
The SAFA Line is $15, the bundle gives a $10 credit.
The Bundle requires DSL ULTRA/XTREME 3.0/ XTREME 6.0; LITE is not eligible.
This Bundle is an UNREGULATED service.
This Bundle is for AT&T-SE customers only at the present moment.
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said by Yippz Voip See Profile :

Bottom line -- voip works -- bye bye useless dialtone now that we can get BUN97!!! :)
Just curious...how much do you think you will save a month?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18882360 Wed, 15 Aug 2007 19:51:15 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18882196 dot_null : Thought y'all would be interested in seeing the order status page for my account after being placed on BUN97. :)
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said by mikes60 See Profile :

VOIP by definition works over your internet connection. So no problem there

I believe your DishNetwork and alarm system need POTS access.

Some alarm systems can be adapted to work over VOIP, but you'd have to check with your alarm company.

Also remember, when your power goes out, you will lose your VOIP, so even though your alarm system probably has a backup battery, it will not be able to call out-- if it can work with VOIP as mentioned above.
I use Vonage with my DSL and DirecTV with no issues whatsoever. I also have a battery backup on my Vonage router so when the power goes out, I have about 2+ hours on my Vonage line as DSL is powered by BS,er, ATT.

Now that you know you can still have voip and DSL without power, let's look at your alarm.

Companies like alarm.com are made specifically for voip lines -- however, many new alarm systems will allow you to toggle IP or dialout -- you may have to have the company flash to newer firmware but with millions of voip customers in the US, alarm companies aren't going to miss hooking those customers up.

Bottom line -- voip works -- bye bye useless dialtone now that we can get BUN97!!! :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18882112 Wed, 15 Aug 2007 19:15:38 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18882043 NetFixer : I was able to sign up today for Stand Alone FastAccess DSL Xtrme 3.0. All I had to do was mention bundle 97.

I am pretty sure that I am too far from the MRBOTNMA CO to get a good 3 mbps sync, but I am hoping that there is now an RT close enough to my address for it to actually work.
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To me it makes more sense to offer to business customers than to residential because businesses in some cases need multiple DLS connections but AT&T doesn't want to loose that revenue from the POTS service so maybe they won't offer it.

Personally if I move into an are that offers cable modems I will dump AT&T altogher simply because I hate paying for the POTS that I don't use. If they want to be competitive with cable that have to realize that people chose cable over DSL because of that. Not to mention Charter who is the main cable provider in my area doens't block any ports and AT&T does.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18881923 Wed, 15 Aug 2007 18:43:59 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18881837 lddgnz : Hi, I placed an order for this AT&T STand ALone Dsl service, was given a confirmation number and was told that the DSL modem and everything will be shipped to my house. It's been a week and I have received nothing so I call back to check the Status but no one could find any order number...most of the reps don't even know about this Standalone DSL service. I have been transferred over to seven different departments but to this point no one could help me. I live in state of GA. Can anyone provide me the 1-800 number to call where I can get assistance regarding this Standalone DSL service? Thanks.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18881837 Wed, 15 Aug 2007 18:30:55 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18881400 mikes60 :
said by ropeguru See Profile :

said by mikes60 See Profile
But, for just a general power outage, an hour goes by pretty fast. There's always my Blackberry.
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What I have in that case is my VT line fails over to my cell phone. So I never really miss any calls regardless.
That works. The truth is I can't remember the last time I gave anyone my landline number. I automatically just give out my cell (Blackberry) number.
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said by mikes60 See Profile
But, for just a general power outage, an hour goes by pretty fast. There's always my Blackberry.
What I have in that case is my VT line fails over to my cell phone. So I never really miss any calls regardless.
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said by Mizzat See Profile :

said by mikes60 See Profile :

VOIP by definition works over your internet connection. So no problem there

I believe your DishNetwork and alarm system need POTS access.

Some alarm systems can be adapted to work over VOIP, but you'd have to check with your alarm company.

Also remember, when your power goes out, you will lose your VOIP, so even though your alarm system probably has a backup battery, it will not be able to call out-- if it can work with VOIP as mentioned above.
I have a battery backup on my router, and so if the power goes out, my router stays up. It'll last for at least an hour, and this was with my PC running as well on the same battery backup (1500 Mah)
I actually have two seperate battery backups that keep almost everything computer related running- for a while. And also a generator in case of another hurricane here in South Florida.

But, for just a general power outage, an hour goes by pretty fast. There's always my Blackberry.
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said by murfster See Profile :

Man, this is what I'm looking for ... then I thought: uh-oh, how is this going to play with my alarm system and my Dishnetwork. Both of them use the (filtered) POTS. VoIP for both? Anybody have experience using VoIP with your phone-line dependent devices?
VoIP should work fine for DishNet. A user here, named digiblur See Profile, has made numerous posts to this effect. However, I wouldn't risk using VoIP an alarm system. If necessary, I would even have a cell backup installed.

I know for a fact that at least one nationwide alarm company only approves Comcast Digital Voice as an alternative to a landline, at least in the Atlanta area.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18881291 Wed, 15 Aug 2007 17:17:20 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18881224 Mizzat : You are correct, it is not an option for business customers at this time. It wasn't a condition of the merger. I don't know if it will be coming out, but I have my speculations.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18881224 Wed, 15 Aug 2007 17:07:47 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18881215 Mizzat :
said by mikes60 See Profile :

VOIP by definition works over your internet connection. So no problem there

I believe your DishNetwork and alarm system need POTS access.

Some alarm systems can be adapted to work over VOIP, but you'd have to check with your alarm company.

Also remember, when your power goes out, you will lose your VOIP, so even though your alarm system probably has a backup battery, it will not be able to call out-- if it can work with VOIP as mentioned above.
I have a battery backup on my router, and so if the power goes out, my router stays up. It'll last for at least an hour, and this was with my PC running as well on the same battery backup (1500 Mah)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18881215 Wed, 15 Aug 2007 17:06:23 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18881070 av8r : Not so unique. I spoke with the Business division this morning. There is no option to get dry DSL and maintain the business class service. I have Extreme 6, with 60 IP addresses assigned, the best they can do is cut me down to a basic business line ($31 about $8 in taxes). My DSL is on the fax number anyway, and faxing on VoIP is iffy at best.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18881070 Wed, 15 Aug 2007 16:49:53 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18880675 tommy_hlfgr : I have a VERY unique situation and I bet more users come out of the woodwork that are in similar situations. About 18 months ago Bellsouth started blocking ports on residential DSL and that bothered me so I swapped my home telephone over to a small business line. Now I want to get naked DSL well of course the small business sale people have no clue what that is. They tried to sell me an aircard or wild blue. I had to explain to them over and over what it was I really wanted. I was transferred all over the place and got the same answer each time "There is no such product for the business customer" Does anyone know if this will become avialable for businesss customers?

I know I have to option to swap back to residential service but I run and exchange server at home and I can't do that on residential.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18880675 Wed, 15 Aug 2007 16:00:39 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18880385 mikes60 : VOIP by definition works over your internet connection. So no problem there

I believe your DishNetwork and alarm system need POTS access.

Some alarm systems can be adapted to work over VOIP, but you'd have to check with your alarm company.

Also remember, when your power goes out, you will lose your VOIP, so even though your alarm system probably has a backup battery, it will not be able to call out-- if it can work with VOIP as mentioned above.
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UnitedGamerz]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18880037 Wed, 15 Aug 2007 14:36:05 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18879840 Tripper_ : Yep, I called back and they switched my service to bun97. Thanks for the help.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18879840 Wed, 15 Aug 2007 14:05:51 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18879124 RogerADSL : It is BUN97, until 1 AUG there was a requirement for wireless (cellular) service. Call back and ask again. It is a new product for them, so it takes awhile for everyone to understand it. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18879124 Wed, 15 Aug 2007 12:13:07 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18879024 Tripper_ : Customer service says I have to sign up for wireless. I tried bundle 96 and bundle 97. Any suggestions?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18879024 Wed, 15 Aug 2007 11:57:24 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18879016 RogerADSL : The line will have a dial tone, but no ability to call out or accept incoming calls. This line will still have a PHONE NUMBER, ableit, a non-voice one. If you try to port it, there is a good chance you will lose your service. ATT will most likley look at that as a disconnect. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18879016 Wed, 15 Aug 2007 11:55:09 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18878326 FAQFixer :
said by jalapeno See Profile :

Anyone know if these "disconnected" lines still allow emergency calls to 911? I want to know if I can still use my landline as an emergency backup with SAFA.

Nope. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18878326 Wed, 15 Aug 2007 10:08:20 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18876918 jalapeno : Anyone know if these "disconnected" lines still allow emergency calls to 911? I want to know if I can still use my landline as an emergency backup with SAFA.

Also, will I be able to do an LNP of a line with DSL still on it? I read somewhere this might cause the LNP to fail.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18876918 Wed, 15 Aug 2007 00:41:17 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18876806 dot_null :
said by mikes60 See Profile :

said by dot_null See Profile :

About 2 hours later outgoing calls from my landline go to a "Your call cannot be completed as dialed" message, and incoming calls say "xxx-xxx-xxxx has been disconnected". :)
It just sounds funny that those are the results you wanted.

For most people, those recordings would be a disaster.

Glad it worked out for you.

Now, if you depend on your email for communication, do yourself a favor and find a free or very cheap alternative. I have been using 1and1.com, which is almost free, except for a minimal charge for my own domain.

It's loaded with features, and hasn't missed a beat since I signed up last November. I love my 6.0 FastAccess, but their email- that's another story.
I signed up for at&t a few months ago, the only reason I even had the basic voice line was for DSL. It was probably used a total of 5 times since it was installed. I have my Viatalk VoIP and cell for voice communication. I was actually ecstatic when I heard the "this line has been disconnected" message. :D

As for the domain, I already have one, »dotnull.com (forgive the sparse content). ;) I'm hosted with DreamHost currently. I had 1&1 for a time, but needed some functionality that they didn't offer (namely, procmail). I do appreciate the suggestion though. :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18876806 Wed, 15 Aug 2007 00:14:11 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18875062 mikes60 :
said by dot_null See Profile :

About 2 hours later outgoing calls from my landline go to a "Your call cannot be completed as dialed" message, and incoming calls say "xxx-xxx-xxxx has been disconnected". :)
It just sounds funny that those are the results you wanted.

For most people, those recordings would be a disaster.

Glad it worked out for you.

Now, if you depend on your email for communication, do yourself a favor and find a free or very cheap alternative. I have been using 1and1.com, which is almost free, except for a minimal charge for my own domain.

It's loaded with features, and hasn't missed a beat since I signed up last November. I love my 6.0 FastAccess, but their email- that's another story.
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said by desmondtm See Profile :

Ok, i just got off the phone with them, and they said my area didnt qualify, but some other areas in GA do. She said that she wanted to check her own location out when she got off of work.
I'm just north of you in Kennesaw and I was just placed on Bundle 97. I would imagine since we're both in the same county that you should qualify too. Try calling back tomorrow and see if someone else can fix you up with Bundle 97.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18874050 Tue, 14 Aug 2007 17:49:58 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18873992 dot_null : Sweet! I just got placed on Bundle 97, and the courteous CSR even waived the $5 SAFA Line charge. She said my total bill would be $42.95 (DSL Extreme 6.0). :D

She said she didn't have any record of a bundle 96, and that effective August 1st Bundle 97 no longer had a wireless requirement. Thanks to the OP and all that have contributed to this thread!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18873992 Tue, 14 Aug 2007 17:41:27 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18873675 outatym : I was able to upgrade to Xtreme 6.0 and lose the phone line without any hassles. And I'm saving about $25/mo!

Thanks for the info guys!!!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18873675 Tue, 14 Aug 2007 17:01:17 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18873484 catflip : I called them and they have to request it through some internal department and it takes up to 48 hours to process. They are going to call me when the process is complete. So it looks like my area qualifies!! Thanks!!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18873484 Tue, 14 Aug 2007 16:31:33 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18873187 desmondtm : Ok, i just got off the phone with them, and they said my area didnt qualify, but some other areas in GA do. She said that she wanted to check her own location out when she got off of work. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18873187 Tue, 14 Aug 2007 15:48:25 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18872622 catflip : I just chatted with an online ATT rep. and they told me this bundle and stand alone DSL does not yet exist? Is this true?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18872622 Tue, 14 Aug 2007 14:35:54 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18872459 hamopr8r : What is the wireless part of Bundle97? The McDonalds wireless access hot spots in Georgia?

I went AT&T extreme 6 last week and was considering going DSL only since I have used Vonage VOIP >2 yrs. Terrific service with no charges for caller id etc.
Jim]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18872459 Tue, 14 Aug 2007 14:15:04 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18872279 erwin2121 : Sweeeet! Thx OP Just got it]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18872279 Tue, 14 Aug 2007 13:51:16 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18872232 HomeLvr : oh yeah if we are on a dsl contract is this still possible?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18872232 Tue, 14 Aug 2007 13:45:12 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18872136 HomeLvr : alright im going to go for lingo I guess. Seems to have the best deal and is the same company that I use for long distance right now and like it (primus)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18872136 Tue, 14 Aug 2007 13:35:41 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18871141 Boricua65 : It doesn't look like it's being offered here in California.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18871141 Tue, 14 Aug 2007 11:12:38 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18867636 Mizzat :
said by bluepoint951 See Profile :

i am just going by what i was found out while calling about the service. i had inquired about this pacakge back in June when i was told by a friend who got a flyer, from what the sales rep said the bundle is the same as it was in June but the wireless componets are no longer necessary. She specificlly said bundle 97.
And she is right, but BUN96 (started Aug 1.) doesn't require cell service. BUN97 does. They are basically the same, but different requirements.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18867636 Mon, 13 Aug 2007 20:16:23 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18867582 bluepoint951 : i am just going by what i was found out while calling about the service. i had inquired about this pacakge back in June when i was told by a friend who got a flyer, from what the sales rep said the bundle is the same as it was in June but the wireless componets are no longer necessary. She specificlly said bundle 97.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18867582 Mon, 13 Aug 2007 20:09:02 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18867564 meyerco : I just ordered it from ATT last week and Paid 7.50 plus (19.95/mo for a year) then it jumps to $29.00/mo. It has to be better than COMCAST-Houston. This provider(Comcast))has horriable customer service and refuse to admit they have problems. :) ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18867564 Mon, 13 Aug 2007 20:05:55 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18866974 MuscogeeDave : Well d@mn,I got bundle 97!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18866974 Mon, 13 Aug 2007 18:36:41 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18866690 Mizzat :
said by Placebo See Profile :

Forgive the ignorance, but is this available in Illinois (former SBC land)?
This is for AT&T Southeast only. You'd have to check the other forums for rates and promos in your area.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18866690 Mon, 13 Aug 2007 17:53:06 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18866654 AricBrown : I wish they would have done this 2 months ago. Suddenlink finally pissed my off so I drop them and got 6 meg dsl. I have a bask no frills line. And I pay total with taxes $55 so with this deal it would be $51.90 with just basic Texas Sales tax so I would only be saving $3 a month and I would still need to get a VOIP. So I think I will stay stiff for now. But its nice to know I can get it]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18866654 Mon, 13 Aug 2007 17:46:53 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18866565 Placebo : Forgive the ignorance, but is this available in Illinois (former SBC land)?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18866565 Mon, 13 Aug 2007 17:35:29 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18865857 Mizzat :
said by dot_null See Profile :

said by Mizzat See Profile :

Bundle 97 is dry loop DSL and Wireless, bundle 96 is Dry loop DSL.
So if you just want dry loop DSL, you should ask for Bundle 96?
Correct.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18865857 Mon, 13 Aug 2007 15:51:11 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18865662 dot_null :
said by Mizzat See Profile :

Bundle 97 is dry loop DSL and Wireless, bundle 96 is Dry loop DSL.
So if you just want dry loop DSL, you should ask for Bundle 96?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18865662 Mon, 13 Aug 2007 15:20:32 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18864819 Mizzat : Bundle 97 is dry loop DSL and Wireless, bundle 96 is Dry loop DSL.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18864819 Mon, 13 Aug 2007 13:21:22 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18861478 Simon Hed : So where exactly is this available? Is it GA/LA only?

Any info on their website?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18861478 Sun, 12 Aug 2007 21:35:42 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18858287 MuscogeeDave : I was quoted 42.95 plus state tax for xtreme 3.0!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18858287 Sun, 12 Aug 2007 11:49:40 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18858238 anon : so the total cost for safa with dsl ultra is 42.95 right? safa for 15 a month - 10 dsl line discount + 37.95 for the dsl ultra line = 42.95 or it is 37.95 total for everything?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18858238 Sun, 12 Aug 2007 11:40:01 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18857603 MuscogeeDave : They called me back after about an hour an apologized. Bundle 97 is offered in my area, no sh!t! I told the manager that called me back that there was NO way the folks on the DSL Reports forum were wrong! LOL
Mine went into effect last night at midnight, I only have xtreme 3.0 now. Now if they'll just offer U-Verse in my area!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18857603 Sun, 12 Aug 2007 08:48:57 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18856738 bluepoint951 :
said by MuscogeeDave See Profile :

I'm on the phone with BS now and there giving me a bunch of mess about having to have Cingular in order to do bundle 97.
Who did ya'll talk to? :mad:
Whom ever you spoke with is incorrect. If someone tells you that Wireless is necessary, tell them look up there referance materials using their online tools. I was told the same thing back in June, but when i called this month i was told the bundle was changed August 1st. If anyting you can always ask f or a manager :-)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18856738 Sun, 12 Aug 2007 00:52:04 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18855083 Yippz Voip :
said by MuscogeeDave See Profile :

I'm on the phone with BS now and there giving me a bunch of mess about having to have Cingular in order to do bundle 97.
Who did ya'll talk to? :mad:
Just from experience... I'd hang up and call Monday when you get someone who actually works weekdays.

I've never been sure about the weekend folks...

Let us know how it works out!!!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18855083 Sat, 11 Aug 2007 18:38:32 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18854706 MuscogeeDave : I'm on the phone with BS now and there giving me a bunch of mess about having to have Cingular in order to do bundle 97.
Who did ya'll talk to? :mad:]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18854706 Sat, 11 Aug 2007 16:44:21 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18853492 Yippz Voip :
said by aa :

thanks a lot, but what about the home phone after we get SAFA, will it keep working and do we need to call customer care for disconnection of home phone.. after the home phone goes i would switch to Lingo.. i hope there should be no problems
You need to switch to Lingo or whatever VOIP carrier you choose BEFORE you disconnect your line with BS er, um, ATT as the line must be live when they do the port - if you disconnect your line before subscribing to Lingo they cannot port the number.

However, if you don't care about your current phone number and want a brand new one, go ahead and sign up for SAFA, disconnect the number and buy in store or call to order your Lingo box.

Enjoy the switch to VOIP... Long time user here and it works flawlessly on DSL (cable, not so much). :)

Bluepoint >> you must have been typing your reply at the same time I was.. :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18853492 Sat, 11 Aug 2007 12:13:04 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18853274 bluepoint951 : You can port your home phone number out to another carrier (VOIP/Cell) but you might want to tell the service rep before ya switch over, once the line become a Dry Line there is no active phone service and LNP requires the line be active with no pending orders.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18853274 Sat, 11 Aug 2007 11:26:49 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18853110 anon : thanks a lot, but what about the home phone after we get SAFA, will it keep working and do we neeed to call customer care for disonnection of home phone.. after the home phone goes i would awitch to LIngo.. i hope there should be no problems]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18853110 Sat, 11 Aug 2007 10:43:42 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18852154 dot_null :
said by aa :

can anybody tell me whether we can use VOIP with this DSL
I don't see why not. I use VoIP (SIP and IAX) just fine with my Asterisk box.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18852154 Sat, 11 Aug 2007 02:48:54 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18851876 anon : can anybody tell me whether we can use VOIP with this DSL]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18851876 Sat, 11 Aug 2007 01:13:01 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18844557 dot_null :
said by bluepoint951 See Profile :

the SAFAL is an unregulated service, no 911, RCR, FCC surcharges....
Thanks for the quick reply. Excellent find, bluepoint951 See Profile. I'll call up at&t tomorrow to switch over to this plan. Thanks again! :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18844557 Thu, 09 Aug 2007 23:56:02 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18844354 drobi78 : I was able to order the Bundle97 offer. Ordered it Tuesday and it went into effect today. Still have dial tone on the line but am unable to make or receive calls. It took 3 calls and about an hour and a half of talking before I was able to accomplish it. Very nice find! Been waiting a while for dry DSL.

Dale]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18844354 Thu, 09 Aug 2007 23:24:40 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18844194 bluepoint951 : Years ago, before the FCC overturned rules state PSC/PUCs passed mandating FastAccess DSL be sold to those with an UNE (CLEC) POTS service, it was possible to get BST DSL & have CLEC POTS service in LA GA and KY. Those customers were grandfathered in.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18844194 Thu, 09 Aug 2007 22:57:17 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18843716 heels_fan : I was under the impression that BS had to offer Stand alone to the customers in GA and LA. Am I wrong in that?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18843716 Thu, 09 Aug 2007 21:26:14 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18843703 Mizzat :
said by heels_fan See Profile :

I take it this is not for anyone in the BS/AT&T footprint?
The OP is in the BS/AT&T footprint.
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**Disclaimer** My views represent only what the voices in my head tell me.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18843703 Thu, 09 Aug 2007 21:23:36 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18843675 heels_fan : I take it this is not for anyone in the BS/AT&T footprint?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18843675 Thu, 09 Aug 2007 21:19:59 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18841273 bluepoint951 : the SAFAL is an unregulated service, no 911, RCR, FCC surcharges....]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18841273 Thu, 09 Aug 2007 14:56:27 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18838199 dot_null : If one were to get the standalone FastAccess, would the line incur 911 fees, regulatory recovery fees, etc.; or would it be considered an "unregulated service" and thus not be subject to such fees?

It sounds as though this is basically dry loop DSL service and there is no voice service on the line used for DSL.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18838199 Thu, 09 Aug 2007 01:08:20 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18834998 madmax2000 : SAFA uses the same requirements as adsl limits. if your line dose not qualify for 6.0 on the regular dsl line chances are it would not qualify on the safa, due to distance limits, co avaibility or such. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18834998 Wed, 08 Aug 2007 16:45:38 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18833070 jtudor : Looks like it is similarly priced to what I am paying now. I wonder if I switched to the SAFA, which would be coming in on a different pair, if I would be able to get the 6.0?

Currently my line does not qualify for 6.0, but it sure would be nice if I could get it by changing over to SAFA.
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Best of luck

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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18833070 Wed, 08 Aug 2007 12:12:28 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18831976 jqpaulsel : Well, they could say it's only for new customers.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18831976 Wed, 08 Aug 2007 09:12:37 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18831962 Cod :
said by jqpaulsel See Profile :

Does that mean I can drop my worthless voice line now and just keep the DSL???
What else would it mean?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18831962 Wed, 08 Aug 2007 09:09:14 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18831871 jqpaulsel : Does that mean I can drop my worthless voice line now and just keep the DSL???]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18831871 Wed, 08 Aug 2007 08:44:52 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18829395 Yippz Voip : (golf clap) Yes, Very Nice... :)

FINALLY!!!!!!!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18829395 Tue, 07 Aug 2007 19:04:17 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18829262 Chek : Very nice indeed.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18829262 Tue, 07 Aug 2007 18:43:54 EDT Re: SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18827815 Pashune : Very nice! :D]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18827815 Tue, 07 Aug 2007 15:16:47 EDT SAFA (Stand Alone FastAccess) - Confirmed today http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18822993 bluepoint951 : After months of waiting i managed to get Stand Alone FastAccess. It is available upon request through Customer Service 1(888)757.6500. SAFA Line $15/mo - $10 DSL Line Credit + Your choice of DSL Ultra or Higher. Refer to Bundle 97. No Cellular/Voice/TV requirements.

SAFAL + DSL Ultra =$37.95
SAFAL + DSL Xtrme 3.0=$42.95
SAFAL + DSL Xtrme 6.0=$47.95]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18822993 Mon, 06 Aug 2007 21:13:07 EDT