sMURF
join:2007-02-27
Toronto, ON
1 edit | Peer1 is junk It seems like every evening, I get packet loss when playing online games.
I'm not sure if the packet loss starts at 65.39.134.1, because TSI Marc has previously said "65.39.134.1 is configured to prioritise ICMP (ping) packets very low and it simply does not reply to all requests", so I can't get an accurate percentage of loss from it.
If it's 65.39.198.250 that's causing the problem, can TSI contact Peer1 and tell them to fix it? It's getting annoying. While playing I usually get spikes from 2% to 11% loss. |
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| reboot your modem? think that might help, would get you a new ip, unless yours is static. |
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sMURF
join:2007-02-27
Toronto, ON | I've had countless IPs, doesn't change anything unfortunately. This has been happening for weeks I believe, although some nights it's worse than others. |
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 PlatooN
join:2007-02-13
Kitchener, ON | reply to sMURF
Thats strange, I'm on Peer1 and dont really seen loss EVER.
possible there is something on your machine thats causing spikes? bad NIC?
Hard to troubleshoot. |
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 TSI GabePremium,VIP
join:2007-01-03
Chatham, ON
kudos:2 | What you need to understand here is that it doesn't matter how long it takes for any router in the traceroute to reply except the last one, in fact they may not reply at all. What you are seeing here is how much time it takes the routers in the path to reply with an ICMP TTL Timeout packet which is not prioritized. What matters most to a router is to forward packets, not to reply to them.
Whats the IP you are getting 2% to 11% packet loss exactly? |
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sMURF
join:2007-02-27
Toronto, ON | said by TSI Gabe:Whats the IP you are getting 2% to 11% packet loss exactly? The same one in the image in my first post, 72.51.60.248.
I don't think it's that IP itself that's having packet loss, because if it was, everyone who played on it would have loss, but they don't, it seems like I'm the only one. Just to note, I can see and "feel" the packet loss in game, I'm not just pinging the server with Ping Plotter and seeing loss. I'm getting packet loss before I reach the server (either hop 3, 4, 5, or 6), but I can't pinpoint it for the exact reason you just stated.
I also don't believe it's my computer and/or my equipment causing the loss, because as I said in my first post, it only happens in the evening/nights, rather than all the time or randomly throughout the day.
If anyone here has Unreal Tournament 2004 and wants to connect to 72.51.60.248:7777, tell me if you get any packet loss (press F6 or 'stat net' in the console). You probably won't see any packet loss until tonight though. Also, if your route is different than mine, you may not see it, in which case please post a traceroute. |
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PlatooN
join:2007-02-13
Kitchener, ON | reply to sMURF
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=== VisualRoute report on Aug 7, 2007 7:40:30 PM ===
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Report for 72.51.60.248
Analysis: Node '72.51.60.248' was found in 7 hops (TTL=122). Connections to HTTP port 80 are being rejected.
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| Hop | % Loss | IP Address | Node Name | Location | Timezone | ms | Graph | Network |
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| 0 | | 192.168.0.101 | eclipse | ... | | | | (private use) |
| 1 | | 192.168.0.1 | - | ... | | | | (private use) |
| 2 | | 206.248.154.102 | - | | | 20 | -x---- | 206.248.154.0 |
| 3 | 10 | 65.39.134.1 | - | | | 14 | x-- | 65.39.134.0 |
| 4 | | 65.39.198.250 | - | | | 11 | x- | 65.39.198.0 |
| 5 | | 216.187.114.161 | oc48-po7-0.tor-1yg-cor-1.peer1.net | | | 20 | -x---- | 216.187.114.0 |
| 6 | | 216.187.114.141 | - | | | 37 | x-------- | 216.187.114.0 |
| 7 | | 72.51.60.248 | - | | | 32 | x----- | 72.51.60.0 |
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VisualRoute Report for 72.51.60.248 produced at 7:40 PM on August 7, 2007.
Roundtrip time to 72.51.60.248 (72.51.60.248) average = 32ms min = 20ms max = 119ms
I'll see if i can find a copy of UT and play there tonight.
the only loss showing on that tracert is to 65.39.134.1 which has ICMP as low priority |
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 MikeGPremium
join:2004-10-02
Hamilton, ON | reply to sMURF
said by sMURF:said by TSI Gabe:Whats the IP you are getting 2% to 11% packet loss exactly? The same one in the image in my first post, 72.51.60.248. I don't think it's that IP itself that's having packet loss, because if it was, everyone who played on it would have loss, but they don't, it seems like I'm the only one. Confirmed. Played on the server for 10-15min just now (7:40pm) no PL, steady 32ms ping. Added to fav's, server runs nice.
Tracing route to 72.51.60.248 over a maximum of 30 hops
1 8 ms 6 ms 13 ms ********
2 11 ms 7 ms 7 ms gw1.mountaincable.net [24.215.3.130]
3 16 ms 18 ms 15 ms ra2sh-ge3-4-14.mt.bigpipeinc.com [66.244.223.237]
4 8 ms 8 ms 10 ms rc1sh-ge9-0-6.mt.shawcable.net [66.163.66.49]
5 * * * Request timed out.
6 * * * Request timed out.
7 * * * Request timed out.
8 * * * Request timed out.
9 20 ms 20 ms 22 ms 72.51.60.248
Trace complete.
C:\Documents and Settings\Limited>ping 72.51.60.248
Pinging 72.51.60.248 with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 72.51.60.248: bytes=32 time=21ms TTL=118
Reply from 72.51.60.248: bytes=32 time=21ms TTL=118
Reply from 72.51.60.248: bytes=32 time=20ms TTL=118
Reply from 72.51.60.248: bytes=32 time=24ms TTL=118
Ping statistics for 72.51.60.248:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 20ms, Maximum = 24ms, Average = 21ms
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1 edit | reply to sMURF
I have been having packet loss issues as well (and like sMURF, mainly in the evenings).
at 8:25 I ran a simple ping test to the IP given:
Ping statistics for 72.51.60.248:
Packets: Sent = 100, Received = 98, Lost = 2 (2% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 21ms, Maximum = 28ms, Average = 22ms
The only game I play is Counter-Strike 1.6, and I notice that every few seconds I'll see the loss counter go from 0 to between 1-3 and then drop back down to 0. Kind of annoying at times, but I think the issue may be with the quality of my line.
My SNR goes down about 1-2dB in the evenings, and I do have a few CRC and HEC errors on my line. The pic shows an uptime of 4 days.
Edit: whoops, meant to ask if we can see your line stats sMURF  |
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PlatooN
join:2007-02-13
Kitchener, ON | reply to sMURF
a few?
jebus man that line has more gaps than david lettermans teeth! |
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sMURF
join:2007-02-27
Toronto, ON
2 edits | reply to piotrick
said by piotrick:Edit: whoops, meant to ask if we can see your line stats sMURF No idea, I haven't figured out how to access my 2Wire modem from behind my Linksys router (if anyone knows how, let me know).
So I can now confirm that the problem isn't my computer/modem/router or the server. I was just in the server and found someone who also uses TekSavvy Premium, and he was getting packet loss at the same time I was, and no one else was getting any loss. If anyone here wants to join that server now (or a ping test), go ahead, you'll see packet loss (if you're on TekSavvy premium).
Here's what Ping Plotter showed at 1:07pm:
And again at 9:26pm:
Another at 9:40pm:
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 R0CKYTSI RockyPremium,VIP
join:2005-05-19
Chatham, ON | We're going to be replacing some core switches next Tuesday night. I'm going to go on a hunch this is related as it's a sporadic event.
Rocky
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