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rds24a
Teach Your Children
Premium
join:2000-12-13
Springboro, OH
clubs:
 ·RoadRunner Cable
| Time Warner Dayton Lineup Changes
From TWC's web site (I think many of these changes have already been applied in our area):
May be dropped pending negotiations:
DIY on Demand; Fine Living on Demand, Food Network on Demand, GAC on Demand, HGTV, HGTV on Demand, Encore MoviePlex, Showtime West, Showtime Showcase West, Showtime Extreme West, Showtime Beyond West, TMC West, TMC Xtra West, Flix West, Starz West, Starz Cinema West, Encore West, Encore Love West, Encore Westerns West, Encore Mystery West, Encore Drama West, Encome Action West.
In addition, from time to time we make certain changes in the services that we offer in order to better serve our customers. The following changes are planned:
Adds: ESPNU to channel 114, ESPN2HD to channel 764,
In some areas:
WRCX to channel 22, WHIO Weather Now to channel 23. Fox WGN moves to channel 17, TBS moves to channel 32, A & E moves to channel 34, ABC Family moves to channel 13, Shop NBC moves to channel 25, Spike TV moves to channel 59, Leased Access moves to channel 11, EWTN moves to channel 24, USA moves to channel 33, MTV moves to channel 60, Discovery Channel moves to channel 50, Weather Channel moves to channel 56, Lifetime moves to channel 35,CNN moves to channel 70,ESPN moves to channel 26, ESPN 2 moves to channel 27, ESPN Classic moves to Digital channel 113, Comedy Central moves to channel 38, E!TV moves to channel 39, Court TV moves to channel 66, TLC moves to channel 49, History Channel moves to channel 52, Cartoon moves to channel 45, Fox Sports Net Ohio moves to channel 29, Headline News moves to channel 71, HGTV moves to channel 53 (if kept), Sci-Fi moves to channel 36, TCM moves to channel 64, AMC moves to channel 37, Travel Channel moves to channel 55, BET moves to channel 65, VH1 moves to channel 62, MSNBC moves to channel 69, CNBC moves to channel 72, National Geographic moves to channel 67, Golf Channel moves to channel 30, CMT moves to channel 58, Food Network moves to channel 54, TV Land moves to channel 41, Animal Planet moves to channel 51, Nickelodeon moves to channel 42, Disney moves to channel 43, Hallmark Channel moves to digital channel 172, TNT moves to channel 31, Fuse moves to channel 78, Shop NBC moves to channel 25, Style moves to channel 44, Oxygen moves to channel 76, WE moves to channel 48, FX moves to channel 40, C-SPAN 2 moves to basic channel 95,Versus moves to channel 57, FOX News moves to channel 68, Fit TV moves to channel 170, Fox Soccer moves to channel 171.
Specific to certain lineups:
WCMH moves to channel 12 in Springfield and to channel 19 in Yellow Springs and surrounding areas, WKOI moves to channel 14, WBNS moves to channel 21, WOSU moves to channel 20, Government access moves to channel 5, Clark County Educational Access moves to channel 18, C-Span moves to channel 10, WSYX moves to channel 6, TV Guide moves to channel 18, QVC moves to channel 9 in most areas and to channel 18 in Warren County, MVCC Government Access 1 & 2 moves to channels 5 & 6, MVCC Educational Access moves to channel 21, Huber Heights Government Access moves to channels 5 & 6, Englewood Educational Access moves to channel 21, Fairborn Educational Access moves to channel 6, Fairborn Government Access moves to channel 5. In Charleston WBNS moves to channel 21, WSYX moves to channel 6, WCMH moves to channel 12 and Clark County Educational access moves to channel 18. In Bellbrook MVCC Educational access moves to channel 6, Bellbrook Government Access moves to channel 5. In Troy, Piqua & Tipp City, Covington some or all of the following moves: WLIO moves to channel 19, WOSU moves to channel 20, C-Span moves to channel 10, Local time & temperature moves to channel 5, WBNS to channel 21. In Urbana & Springfield: WKOI to channel 14, WCMH moves to channel 19, WBNS to channel 21, WOSU to channel 20, WSYX to channel 6. In Greenville: WIPB moves to channel 20, weather radar to channel 23, WKOI moves to channel 14, WBDT moves to channel 15, ITV moves to channel 6, EWTN moves to channel 12. In Union City, K.I.S.S./Time and Weather moves to channel 5, WTTK moves to channel 19, local radar replaced by WHIO Weather Now, WISH moves to channel 20, WIPB moves to channel 21, WNDY moves to channel 12, WKEF moves to channel 3. In Germantown, WECT moves to channel 20, WKOI moves to channel 14, WBDT moves to channel 15, Miami Valley Access channels move to channel 5, 6 and 21 and in Oxford, Talawanda Schools moves to channel 24 and Oxford City access moves to channel 19.
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RonS
Madm0nke
Premium
join:2000-06-19
Dayton, OH | So will our cost go down since they are taking away some channels. Or will it go up since it involves work for them to remove channels. LOL
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rds24a
Teach Your Children
Premium
join:2000-12-13
Springboro, OH
clubs:
·RoadRunner Cable
edit:
August 10th, @11:53AM
| Oddly enough, my bill did go down this month:
Last month:
Digipic 1000 + RR: $89.90
DVR: $9.95
Music Choice: $0.50
Program Guide: $0.50
Sports Tier: $2.95
Converters: 2 @ $7.62
Remotes: 2 @ $0.22
This month
Digipic 1000 + RR: $84.90
DVR: $9.95
Sports tier: $2.95
Converters: 2 @ $7.62
Remotes: 2 @ $0.22
Difference: -$6.00
I also got a mysterious $2.33 credit for service 7/22-8/04.
EDIT: According the the TWC-WOH web site, the going rate for Digipic1000+RR is $98.33 plus equipment.
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TransitMan
Premium,MVM
join:2000-09-05
Dayton, OH
clubs: | reply to rds24a
I'm in Kettering and have Basic cable, and i have not seen any line-up changes - YET!
When are these supposed to go into effect? | |
rds24a
Teach Your Children
Premium
join:2000-12-13
Springboro, OH
clubs: | I thought I saw something about the government access change being effective August 27th, maybe?
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Hall
Premium,MVM
join:2000-04-28
Dayton, OH
| reply to rds24a
You may want to consider bumping up to DigiPic 2000. 1) The set-top is "included" in the price. 2) When you get (2) or more premium channels (which DP2000 includes), the DVR fee drops to $4.95. It won't be cheaper, but it might be *close* in price then you get movie channels. | |
rds24a
Teach Your Children
Premium
join:2000-12-13
Springboro, OH
clubs:
·RoadRunner Cable
| It was about $11 more per month. I dropped to 1000 as part of a negotiated deal with the, uh, "procurement department" last year.
TWC's current pricing page no longer says that equipment is included in the higher tiers...only the DVR discount. I hate changing plans with them, I always get jipped out of something and then I get the "sorry, you can't go back to your old plan...it's not in the computer anymore" line.
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Hall
Premium,MVM
join:2000-04-28
Dayton, OH
| Yeah, I noticed that later... It used to be that way though.
I've talked to many CSRs in the past and always complain about their policy of making any changes to your account will kick you off of your current pricing to the current pricing. They've heard the complaint many times and whether they pass it on, who knows, or does management not care. | |
RonS
Madm0nke
Premium
join:2000-06-19
Dayton, OH
| said by Hall  :They've heard the complaint many times and whether they pass it on, who knows, or does management not care. Remember my wife worked there for a short time. They could care less about anyone situation or complaint.
Time Warner > the customer
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3 out of 4 people make up 75% of the population. | |
rds24a
Teach Your Children
Premium
join:2000-12-13
Springboro, OH
clubs:
·RoadRunner Cable
edit:
August 24th, @04:05PM
| reply to rds24a
IF you didn't receive your lineup change card today, the changes are effective August 29. Only major thing I noticed was that ESPNHD and ESPN2HD will be added as part of standard digital cable, and ESPNU was added to the basic digital tier. They are also doing away with all "W" premium channels that were basically the regular premiums on a 3-hour delay.
According to the TWC phone rep, you can add or remove supplemental packages (Value, Sports, etc.) without affecting any other rates, but if you want to change premiums or anything else considered part of the "main package" (Digipic 1000, 1500, etc.), then your main bill will change. Currently, DigiPic 1000 is $16 more per month that what my old rate is, so if I wanted to change from DigiPic 1000 to DigiPic 1500 my bill would go up around $25, with 10 of it going to the premium channel and 15 going to the price hike. No thanks. I can rent quite a few movies for $25/month.
EDIT: Since it came up, for kicks I priced DirecTV for the exact same channels and services that I get now from TWC. I would have to pay $347 in startup costs (including promotions mostly to account for HD DVR) and (adding in the extra cost of unbundled/no TV RoadRunner) would pay about $25 more per month with DirecTV. Note that the DirectTV price adds a few non-premium channels, but loses some local and HD channels because of local market restrictions. That's as close a comparison as I could get.
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Hall
Premium,MVM
join:2000-04-28
Dayton, OH | Compare things to Dish Network. I believe new customers can get the HD-DVR for free. | |
rds24a
Teach Your Children
Premium
join:2000-12-13
Springboro, OH
clubs:
·RoadRunner Cable
| Dish would be about $50 startup costs (although it says nothing about installation costs...DirecTV's package specified free standard installation). Total cost (again including RR) would be about $20/month more than what I am paying now. So Dish is less than DirecTV but both are more than TWC.
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Hall
Premium,MVM
join:2000-04-28
Dayton, OH
| I could give you a Club Dish card that would waive that add'l $50 fee (I'm pretty sure you can get it waived by committing to an 18-mo contract too). Installation is free.
To be honest, if you're comparing TW "bundles" vs other companies RR and so on, TW will be cheaper. | |
rds24a
Teach Your Children
Premium
join:2000-12-13
Springboro, OH
clubs: | Since I'm in a non-DSL neighborhood, I really don't have a choice. Dialup is not an option!
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rds24a
Teach Your Children
Premium
join:2000-12-13
Springboro, OH
clubs: | reply to rds24a
So the changes went through today, but now I can't get ESPNHD. I can get ESPN2HD, but not ESPNHD.
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Sandspur
@rr.com | reply to rds24a
Does anybody know what happened to the Hallmark Channel. I can't find it in Basic or Standard tier. Did they move it to Premium? | |
rds24a
Teach Your Children
Premium
join:2000-12-13
Springboro, OH
clubs: | 172 Digital. Might be part of the Variety package but I don't have the card handy to check.
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Hall
Premium,MVM
join:2000-04-28
Dayton, OH
| According to this listing, »www.timewarnercable.com/Customer···1=submit, it is on the Digital Value Tier now. | |
rds24a
Teach Your Children
Premium
join:2000-12-13
Springboro, OH
clubs: | reply to rds24a
New HD Channels I noticed tonight:
TBS HD
Food Network HD
HGTV HD
Still no NBC HD. Channel 2 and TWC must really have a good pi$$ing match going.
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Hall
Premium,MVM
join:2000-04-28
Dayton, OH
| reply to rds24a
I have to say, TWC has finally gotten their heads out of their a**es regarding adding HD channels. I'm impressed !
Food Network .... Giada in HD 
»www.foodnetwork.com/food/giada_d···,00.html | |
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