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major marco
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Ridiculous

I've been following the SCO case on Groklaw for awhile now and I have to say wow. Just wow. What a colossal waste of time, court resources and energy. The claim was weak out the gate and the entire case was motivated by who was gonna get the most $$$$$$$$$$ from being the "owner" of an OS that has undergone -via Linux- so many recodings that any flavor of Linux is indistinguishable from the original OS it was derived from.
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swhx7
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Elbonia

I was hoping SCO would last long enough for their claims to get thoroughly shot down in court, and they did.

Now it would be nice to see some action for costs for the defendants. Better yet, for abuse of process or something similar. SCO is getting down to its last nickels and dimes, so it would have to be something that could reach the individuals.

Punishing Microsoft for stealth-sponsoring it I guess would be too much to hope for.



NOCMan
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reply to major marco
Linux was derived from Minix not Unix.


nosx

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The linux/unix/bsd/solaris family tree makes the AT&T telco family tree look sane.



Ted

@verizon.net

reply to NOCMan

said by NOCMan:

Linux was derived from Minix not Unix.
Linux is a Unix-like OS derived from Unix. Its design was most certainly Unix/POSIX-derived.


dennismurphy
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reply to nosx
You mean this AT&T?


bmn
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reply to Ted

said by Ted :

said by NOCMan:

Linux was derived from Minix not Unix.
Linux is a Unix-like OS derived from Unix. Its design was most certainly Unix/POSIX-derived.
*cough cough*

said by »www.linux.org/info/index.html :

Linux is an operating system that was initially created as a hobby by a young student, Linus Torvalds, at the University of Helsinki in Finland. Linus had an interest in Minix, a small UNIX system, and decided to develop a system that exceeded the Minix standards. He began his work in 1991 when he released version 0.02 and worked steadily until 1994 when version 1.0 of the Linux Kernel was released.
said by »en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux#History :

MINIX, a Unix-like system intended for academic use, was released by Andrew S. Tanenbaum in 1987. While source code for the system was available, modification and redistribution were restricted. In addition, MINIX's 16-bit design was not well adapted to the 32-bit design of the increasingly cheap and popular Intel 386 architecture for personal computers.

In 1991, Linus Torvalds began to work on a non-commercial replacement for MINIX while he was attending the University of Helsinki.[6] This eventually became the Linux kernel.
Derived from MINIX... The user land (command lines aka shells, etc.) carries over from Unix .
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swhx7
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It started as a variation of Minix, but Torvalds soon rewrote everything he took from Minix into original Unix-like equivalents or replacements, so there was nothing left of Minix in it. If I recall correctly, Tannenbaum, author of Minix, has agreed with this assessment and approves of Torvalds' work, though they disagree about the merits of micro- and monolithic kernels.



Ted

@rr.com

reply to bmn

said by bmn:

said by Ted :

said by NOCMan:

Linux was derived from Minix not Unix.
Linux is a Unix-like OS derived from Unix. Its design was most certainly Unix/POSIX-derived.
*cough cough*

said by »www.linux.org/info/index.html :

Linux is an operating system that was initially created as a hobby by a young student, Linus Torvalds, at the University of Helsinki in Finland. Linus had an interest in Minix, a small UNIX system, and decided to develop a system that exceeded the Minix standards. He began his work in 1991 when he released version 0.02 and worked steadily until 1994 when version 1.0 of the Linux Kernel was released.
said by »en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux#History :

MINIX, a Unix-like system intended for academic use, was released by Andrew S. Tanenbaum in 1987. While source code for the system was available, modification and redistribution were restricted. In addition, MINIX's 16-bit design was not well adapted to the 32-bit design of the increasingly cheap and popular Intel 386 architecture for personal computers.

In 1991, Linus Torvalds began to work on a non-commercial replacement for MINIX while he was attending the University of Helsinki.[6] This eventually became the Linux kernel.
Derived from MINIX... The user land (command lines aka shells, etc.) carries over from Unix .
What I meant to say is "Linux is a Unix-like OS (actually kernel) derived from Minix." The second part refuted the poster whom I'd quoted, that indeed the design is Unix/POSIX in nature.

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