Yes, mmm I see in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r18858754 en Thu, 03 Dec 2009 01:18:08 EDT Thu, 03 Dec 2009 01:18:08 EDT Re: Yes, mmm I see http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18860346 TScheisskopf :
said by Titus Pullo See Profile :

said by AZinOH See Profile :

Don't these businesses talk to each other?
Oh, they'll talk, that's a given. When the goal is to part consumers from their money, it'll not take long for the purveyors of ancillary goods to work towards the common goal of enriching themselves and those they ultimately serve.
No worries there, eh?
And who wants most to get their hands on that bandwidth? The television broadcasters, who have been seeing their viewer numbers slip, every year, as High-Speed Internet service becomes more ubiquitous.

The perfect solution for them would be to make sure that the only content available is their content, and they are willing to throw money at that dream. It would turn the internet into The New Cable TV.

And if you think that the present democratized internet and a Broadcast TV internet can co-exist, especially in the eyes of the broadcasters and the infrastructure providers, who have a knee-jerk aversion to infratructure investment, you got another thing coming. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18860346 Sun, 12 Aug 2007 18:09:50 EDT Re: Yes, mmm I see http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18859105 exocet_cm :
said by st7860 See Profile :

you must be the guy that gave sprint the idea to cancel a persons contract just because he/she called customer service a few times
Nope, not me.
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said by st7860 See Profile :

thats right, if the ISP doesn't like it, too bad.
Well, considering it's the ISPs' networks, it really isn't too bad. It is their right, and necessity, to manage and control their networks. So, if you as a consumer don't like it, too bad...move on to another network.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18858984 Sun, 12 Aug 2007 14:00:23 EDT Re: Yes, mmm I see http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18858947 Titus Pullo :
said by AZinOH See Profile :

Don't these businesses talk to each other?
Oh, they'll talk, that's a given. When the goal is to part consumers from their money, it'll not take long for the purveyors of ancillary goods to work towards the common goal of enriching themselves and those they ultimately serve.
No worries there, eh?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18858947 Sun, 12 Aug 2007 13:54:04 EDT Re: Yes, mmm I see http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18858866 st7860 :
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I don't understand how VIDEO and IMAGES will cause the Interweb to fail as it is not everybody all the time.
Maybe not everybody, thank god, but with P2P apps it is all the time. I have seen numerous posters here crow about how it is their right to download videos/music 24x7 and if the ISP doesn't like it - too bad.
thats right, if the ISP doesn't like it, too bad.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18858866 Sun, 12 Aug 2007 13:38:53 EDT Re: Yes, mmm I see http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18858865 AZinOH : What I find difficult to understand is this: On the one hand there are the ISPs complaining about how this flood of downloading is straining their networks and costing them money. On the other hand, there are all these groups just chomping at the bit and rubbing their hands in glee thinking about how they are going to make all this money by selling all this streaming video (baseball-football-basketball) not to mention movies and music. Doesn't the second group know that their business plan is at the mercy of a bandwith supply that the first group can limit at will? Don't these businesses talk to each other? If not they better start and the first thing they should iron out is that if you sell a service that consumes bandwidth, you better be willing to contribute resources necessary to help supply that bandwidth. The customer doesn't deserve to be caught in the middle wanting to pay for both an internet connect and a service he desires only to find that using said service runs him out of an allowed supply of usage.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18858865 Sun, 12 Aug 2007 13:38:48 EDT Re: Yes, mmm I see http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18858790 TKJunkMail :
said by exocet_cm See Profile :

I don't understand how VIDEO and IMAGES will cause the Interweb to fail as it is not everybody all the time.
Maybe not everybody, thank god, but with P2P apps it is all the time. I have seen numerous posters here crow about how it is their right to download videos/music 24x7 and if the ISP doesn't like it - too bad. And it doesn't even matter if they couldn't possibly look at or listen to all they download in 2 lifetimes. And it is the growing number of people with that attitude that will lead ISP's to start throttling traffic. No matter what some say, the bandwidth resource is not unlimited and it is not free.
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Very interesting. We must cut back on every person's intake amounts: smaller portions = less backup.

/sarcasm

On a more serious note: not everybody will be streaming everything at once so like ocean waves data consumption will rise and fall. I don't understand how VIDEO and IMAGES will cause the Interweb to fail as it is not everybody all the time.
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