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unions hate them? all the more reason to USE them!

AT&T union employees in Milwaukee are urging locals to avoid Time Warner Cable because of the company's non-unionized labor in the region.

No kidding, I wish I could sign up.
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reply to inteller
Fie I say! All Americans should earn minimum wage!

reply to Cabal
You my friend are an idiot. I never knew Time Warner didn't support unions. I find that disturbing. Basically, you are for low wages, kicking anyone out for any reason (valid or not), and having long work hours? You my friend need to look at U.S. history 100 yrs ago when there were no worker rights or unions. You worked 7 days a week, could be fired for missing one day, and often got killed or injured on the job due to unsafe conditions. I guess some people just don't learn from the past.

reply to jc100
Unions are unnecessary overhead.

All I ever see them do with the extra money they extort is bitch for more and publicly flog those who choose not to pay protection (in other words, those who choose not to do unions).

Thankfully, most everyone in America can see the truth here. Everyone, except union employees who know they are overpaid and want to protect that undeserved extra cash. You wouldn't happen to be one of these would you?

reply to jc100
i guess some people don't know about OSHA and other gorvernment organizations and policies designed to protect ALL workers. unions are a relic of the past when the government wouldn't help. These days they are just used to swindle companies out of more money while their members do the same job.

reply to jc100
Unions are useless and that's coming from a union member. The only things unions do anymore are protect people who don't want to work and take money out of paychecks. Every time a manager gets on someone at work for not doing their job, the person cries and goes to the union rep. The end result is that you can't fire useless workers no matter what.
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reply to inteller
I agree .. unions may have had their place back when labor laws didn't exist.
Now, with few exceptions, they hold back progress, and assist in offshoring jobs.

I'll give a hint... Toyota vs. the big 3. Guess who won.
I've been inside some of those plants, and many are job protecting slugs and union/management relationships are poor at best.
I've seen workers sleeping on the job (sleeping there, as they have a 'real job' when they get done their shift), some sabotaging production, others outright stealing things from engines/compents/electronics to janitor supplies. The union protects them, and they never get fired. The typical age of these employees are +50.

I've worked on both Union and Non-Union jobs (for the same company even), and I think Union jobs typically hurt the overall economy/industry these days.
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reply to markopoleo
Where do you think those "modern" laws came from? Those laws are there because of the Unions. If the Unions were gone, those laws would soon be gone also. The government and corporations don't give a shit about the working class, you're just a number. Unions are the only way for the little guy to demand a living wage, benefits and safe working conditions.

reply to en102
Yeah, because Toyota was smart enough to pay a reasonable rate to skirt a union in the first place.
While unions, like the rest of America, has gotten fat and lazy, they are still very much needed.

reply to markopoleo
You sir are a complete idiot.
1. The Minimum Wage has not kept up with inflation. So that "minimum wage" is not really a "livable" wage, for which it was intended. Even the higher paying fast food jobs don't offer livable wages.

2. Ever hear of "At-will" dumbass? Basically, you can be fired for any reason (other than illegal discrimination.)

3. 40 hours a week is not a standard anymore. Most people work much longer. If you work as a salaried employee, odds that you are working more is even greater. This doesn't even consider companies like WalMart and others that force employees to badge out and continue working on their own time.

In a country that is seeing the middle class squeezed out of existence, where the rich continue to get richer and the poor are getting poorer, we need good, strong unions that are realistic and are more in tune to today's requirements. Unions need to be fixed, but not destroyed.

reply to Tsume
Thankfully, most of America doesn't see it your way, you jackass.

reply to markopoleo
im guessing you have never had to LIVE on min wage
you cant not with out 3 or 4 people living together

and even then its hard to pay the bills

min wage in some states is a joke look at CA the cost of living is so high if you dont make atlest 40k a year your going to be living in a slum

reply to boober321
I have no idea where you people think that "Toyota" pays good, trust me TMMTX pay SUCKS, I speak from experience. benefits are marginal, work ethics are EXTREMELY SICK (ex. 3 days out no matter the reason, YOUR GONE). How about bad weather/tornado? EVERYONE is stuffed into a so called tornado shelter (RESTROOM) which is roughly a 25x25 space x 50 - 100 people. want to call a loved one in an extreme emergency? your out of luck no phones/cells are allowed on Toyota site if caught its termination and banned forever at Toyota. Laws you say?
you sign a contract stating they are in right to terminate with or without cause/reason end of story. if you don't sign this don't think you will be working for this company or any on-site supplier for that matter.

Housing market pre Toyota in south side satx about 75k today's market for house on south side no less then 140k
Toyota pay DOES NOT support this trust me. all suppliers pay about same base line as Toyota assembly etc.

yet a truck sells for on avg. $30k x 150k trucks per year = $4.5 billion a year, way to go Toyota this is just the Tundra line

of course Toyota itself makes about $2k in profit per truck after all is said and done that still = huge profits.

TMMTX and all suppliers are non union so does it need a union? i say it needs something/control.

reply to elios
"min wage in some states is a joke look at CA the cost of living is so high if you dont make atlest 40k a year your going to be living in a slum"

All the more reason for the lower class scum to aspire to do something with their lives instead of feasting off of the taxes paid by the people who actually cared enough to PAY FOR THEIR OWN SCHOOLING and get a degree to better themselves. It is far too easy for these people to get student loans for schooling, full student loans. There is no excuse. I've had people tell me, "I didint getted duh oppuhtoonitee you gots!" That is complete Horse Dung as I've stated it's alot easier for one of them to get a loan than me! I worked through school to pay for it and it was tough. I didn't give up and blame "the man" for not giving me free breakfast after the free bus ride to school which is provided free through highschool. It all goes back to the individuals wanting to better their peeps, which in my experience (take the scum from N.O. after Katrina for instance) they don't give a crap about. They just want to suckle off the teet of the american tax payer and get a free ride. I was a Teamster throughout college (because that was the only way to work in the moving business) but I hated every minuted of it. It HAD it's place in the making of the equal opportunity laws that are in place now, they aren't worth a crap to society anymore. The people who support unions are the same scum that suckle the teet.

you want to give me a full loan for school becouse i have NO credit and it seems i make to much to get a loan

id pay for my own schooling but i CANT becouse i bearly make enough to pay my bills

im living in MO atm and they just raised min wage a buck this year and what happened prices for EVERY THING in town jumped at lest 3%

so dont tell me people on min wage are scum some of us arnt
and dont like to take handouts but when you bearly get paid enough to pay your bills its hard to pay for any thing else

"id pay for my own schooling but i CANT becouse i bearly make enough to pay my bills"

LOL, and you are pissing your money away on your high speed internet connection and you own a computer? Come on, you can't be that hard up, or you have your priorities all F'd up, which would group you in with the teet sucklers.