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Warez_Zealot
Rural land of the rising sun

join:2006-04-19
japan

reply to telcolackey
Re: What do people realistically want?

said by telcolackey See Profile :

1) Faster
2) Cheaper
3) Unlimited usage

Pick only 2 options

Bandwidth usage at peak times cost $$... That is why all commercial ISPs moved from flat rate to 95%ile usage based billing years ago. As speeds get higher, a small set of customers will throw off the cost models
Well I don't buy that.. I've never seen the #'s in financial reports showing actual bw costs.. Most ISP's have peering agreements too.

IMO the throttling is done mostly due to capacities. It's cheaper for them to stop your P2P uploads than to upgrade for congestion.

I would rather have the faster upload speeds, but what's the point if you cant use it..

The funny thing is, when ISP's throttle, they typically throttle to 0kB/s or 5-10kB/s. That is a little excessive.. If anything, they should configure the throttling program to throttle more as more people are online, and less during off hours..
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"You're not supposed to be so blind with patriotism that you can't face reality. Wrong is wrong, no matter who says it." - Malcolm X

tmc8080

join:2004-04-24
Floral Park, NY

said by Warez_Zealot See Profile :

said by telcolackey See Profile :

1) Faster
2) Cheaper
3) Unlimited usage

Pick only 2 options

Bandwidth usage at peak times cost $$... That is why all commercial ISPs moved from flat rate to 95%ile usage based billing years ago. As speeds get higher, a small set of customers will throw off the cost models
Well I don't buy that.. I've never seen the #'s in financial reports showing actual bw costs.. Most ISP's have peering agreements too.

IMO the throttling is done mostly due to capacities. It's cheaper for them to stop your P2P uploads than to upgrade for congestion.

I would rather have the faster upload speeds, but what's the point if you cant use it..

The funny thing is, when ISP's throttle, they typically throttle to 0kB/s or 5-10kB/s. That is a little excessive.. If anything, they should configure the throttling program to throttle more as more people are online, and less during off hours..
The only method of customer feedback cable companies understand is to cancel service and go with any competitor available.. How do you think Verizon FIOS gets to 1+ Million installed customer base? Happy telco talk? NO! From companies such as cablevision throttling their connections and pissing off customers.. Now many of those people are relatively happy Verizon FIOS customers. $29.95 Lures will not work if the service SUCKS. Conversely.. the shoe can as easily go on the other foot for Verizon's BILLING fiasco's that they like to play games at...
Eventually, they'll calculate their losses to the competition and see if it's worth upgrading the network capacity and giving customers MORE for LESS.. For the time being, that answer is NO (with limited exceptions).
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