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Stumbles

join:2002-12-17
Port Saint Lucie, FL
And we use Ataris as servers

I think this is the first time I have heard anyone trying to blame a "network meltdown" on a single NIC.... on a PC. Yeah right. Maybe if it were on a server.


KrK
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said by Stumbles See Profile :

I think this is the first time I have heard anyone trying to blame a "network meltdown" on a single NIC.... on a PC. Yeah right. Maybe if it were on a server.
No, if they used Atari's or C-64's the system wouldn't have gone down
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raythompsontn

join:2001-01-11
Oliver Springs, TN

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said by Stumbles See Profile :

I think this is the first time I have heard anyone trying to blame a "network meltdown" on a single NIC.... on a PC. Yeah right. Maybe if it were on a server.
It is entirely possible that the NIC shorted, locked up the hub, and this in turn prevented other systems from communicating. A switch should have been used which would not suffer from a single port failure, at least an intelligent switch.

This is the federal government running the system, lowest bid gets the job. A hub would be much cheaper than a switch, a few bucks here, a few bucks there, and you shave enough to win the contract.

Remember that large systems have failed because of a small part. Remember the shuttle accidents.

xo

join:2007-06-15
Perry, FL
"..lowest bid gets the job."

like halliburton?


dogma
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Boulder City, NV
Big difference between competitive bid, where the lowest bidder probably gets the contract...

...and no bid, where Halliburton always gets the contract.

Kearnstd
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said by KrK See Profile :

said by Stumbles See Profile :

I think this is the first time I have heard anyone trying to blame a "network meltdown" on a single NIC.... on a PC. Yeah right. Maybe if it were on a server.
No, if they used Atari's or C-64's the system wouldn't have gone down
arent FAA systems a few generations behind the Atari? i seem to remember hearing about them having tubes in some airport systems still.
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said by xo See Profile :

"..lowest bid gets the job."

like halliburton?
Lol I thought the same thing when I read his post!


CyBrChRsT

join:2003-02-28
Kansas City, MO

 reply to Stumbles
Server has nothing to do with it. How naive for you to think so. Any port on any network device has the potential to halt a complete network, interconnected by switches/hubs/routers or not. I worked at a hospital that my boss swore by Dell switches were the same as Cisco but so much cheaper (remember you get what you pay for) (mind this, he cost the hospital thousands of dollars in lost productivity in the hour it took him to find the damn problem) and swore that they were just rebranded Cisco by Dell. BS, it was quite obvious how stupid he was in the knowledge of IT equipment when a single ATA device (eh hem... 3COM) hooked up to a fax ended up sending a broadcast storm across the network of 8 switches 200 VoiP phones and 200 Workstations and 9 servers and 3 routers and a firebox! If the dumbass had been using Cisco to start he could have configured the switches to recognize such a threat on all of the ports and shut down the port from the afending device! Sad thing is, if he had the network protected with APC ProtectNet hardware it would have saved the device to start; from the storm that caused it over the weekend. Not naming names but eh hem "The Headache and Pain Center / Doctors Specialty Hospital (now known as Doctors Hospital" sorry but find this the opportunity to slam. -> First week I was there I ran security tests and was able to hack the admin password in 2 seconds with a dictionary attack and get the same password over a phoneline out in the country only connected at like 22k in 20 min using Brutus against the smtp server! Did he do anything after I warned him of this? NO! Why you ask? Excuse = "I tried getting the time approved to secure the network more but they wouldn't" yeah uh then it cost them a day outtage after the exchange server had been hacked into by a virus. So not spending that extra money in approved time costs them way more in downtime down the road. Then the fucker had the nerve to fire me after I got food poisoning twice the next year. If said dumbass would have had any idea what he was doing at the time of setting up the network it wouldn't have taken any more than usual at all to just do the damn job right the first time. Oh and the wifi network for the Dr.'s was never secured, anyone with a laptop sitting in the parking lot could tap right in. I bet HIPPA would have loved to have known that. Should have turned his ass in. ok I'm done


FiL
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Silver Spring, MD
reply to dogma
Got that one right on the money...

nguyen27

join:2003-05-14
Quincy, MA


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reply to Stumbles
said by Stumbles See Profile :

I think this is the first time I have heard anyone trying to blame a "network meltdown" on a single NIC.... on a PC. Yeah right. Maybe if it were on a server.
It is possible that the NIC can cause that kind of problem, if some how the NIC cause conflict with the MAC address of the subnet router, it will bring the whole subnet down tho. I saw this with my own eyes when some external vendor came into our office and plug their laptop into our active datajack, but network like LAX should have appliance prevents such problem.
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